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2596  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Joystiq: Penny Arcade game footage exposed. on: March 18, 2007, 01:03:50 AM
Quote from: "Jimmy"
Horny robot? Come on guys, that's the Fruit Fucker!

I'm not as up-to-speed w/ Penny Arcade as I'd like to pretend I am. :(

2597  The Rest / General Discussions / NPD numbers for February. on: March 18, 2007, 01:02:45 AM
Quote from: "Leyviur"

Quote from: "Hidoshi"

This is a thread about how Nintendo sucks, though.

Actually it's a thread about how Nintendo is doing surprisingly well in hardware sales.

Cute quote, but...oh wait Hidoshi didn't say it. And I sure as hell don't appreciate it.

2598  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Joystiq: Penny Arcade game footage exposed. on: March 17, 2007, 06:43:00 PM
The robot who jerks it to "shoot off" bullets made me laugh pretty hard.

If it really is being advertised as an RPG/adventure, I want to review it for this very site. Even if it's a piece of sh*t, it'll be a funny piece of sh*t.

2599  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Ar Tonelico Premium Box on: March 17, 2007, 02:49:11 AM
Quote from: "Bernhardt"
Spica this time? She wasn't even a Reyvateil...

...and just for the record, why couldn't you partner with Claire in the game? Forget Shurelia, I'd like an older woman, and one whom I can actually see her face...


Well, can you tell this is my current favorite game? 'Cuz it is.

1) I thought Spica was a Reyvateil...even if she's not, she's quite involved in their lives. I own the album, review is coming soon.

2) You see Shurelia's face plenty...wait til Phase 3...

3) Claire is a side-character / shop-owner, much like Spica. Also, Claire said she doesn't want to sing for the sake of power; she just sings regular music now.

4) I'm glad this is your favorite game. There's a lot you have to "get past" (esp. for more casual RPGers) before you can really say "I enjoy this game." But it's excellent IMO.

2600  The Rest / General Discussions / NPD numbers for February. on: March 16, 2007, 09:16:55 PM
Quote from: "Fadedsun"
I thought it was going to look something like:

I'm surprised.

If you look up "overall sales," that is most definitely what it looks like. But for monthly? Yeah, Wii is still riding a NICE wave.

PS3 may still be a late bloomer; the thing is just too damn expensive right now and doesn't have enough good software for it. But if PS3 doesn't start selling well by, say, Summer of 2008, Sony's gonna have some BIG problems.

2601  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Japan-only rpg games for Playstation 1 & 2 on: March 14, 2007, 08:58:12 PM
Yeah. It's doubtful that any of the main-series Summon Night games would ever have a shot of coming to the US. Summon Night 4 just came out a few months ago on PS2, but right on the heels of that, Flight-Plan released Dragon Shadow Spell (which I'd consider a superior game to SN4).

If you import, I'd definitely check the series out.

2602  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Japan-only rpg games for Playstation 1 & 2 on: March 14, 2007, 01:13:52 AM

Anyone who kept up with the series would think in completely backwards order from you. The GBA games were released as little side-story projects after Summon Night was firmly established as a strategy RPG franchise.

In response to the original post:

the Langrisser series. Though they were originally seen on Sega consoles, I believe they all eventually made it to PS1.

2603  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Completed RPGs of 2007 on: March 09, 2007, 06:05:08 AM
Updated list:

Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia (PS2)
The Legend of Heroes II: Prophecy of the Moonlight Witch (PSP)
Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon (GBA)
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation 2 (GBA)

Now on to Legend of Heroes III.
2604  The Rest / General Discussions / Holy incest batman on: March 09, 2007, 06:01:43 AM

Legally, they probably will win the case. People can and will continue to look at the situation and say "ok that's fucked up," but really (o rly? ya rly) this is the trend that comes after the sexual revolution and emphasis on civil liberties. Next on the plate are polygamy and intergenerational-homosexual love (aka NAMBLA). I promise you that, at least in Europe (if not America), these issues will be seriously challenged in courtrooms in the next two decades.

But Degolas' reaction can sum it up for most of us.

And, some of what i just said relates to what Hidoshi said. But remember, you're still drawing a line, we just re-drew it in the past few decades to let homosexuals "in" on the acceptable side. Incest, polygamy, and "concensual" pedophilia are the next ones up. I'm not saying my 2 cents on it, I'm just telling you how it is. ^^;

2605  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / FFXI march update on: March 09, 2007, 05:43:08 AM
Just finished the Aht Urhgan story-missions (only 8 added, most just cutscenes and stuff, only 2 fights).

The plot is really good. It's going to lead to a pretty ass-kicking climax. Overall, I think CoP had a better plot, but this plot is really working well too.

If only they made it ... even remotely challenging. These NM fights are jokes so far. I think they responded to players' complaints about CoP being too hard and in turn made AU too easy.

2606  The Rest / General Discussions / Spore developer thinks Wii "is a piece of shit." on: March 09, 2007, 01:54:06 AM
Thanks for the Kojima article link.

As for the apology, I am disturbed by the cynicism of ... everyone who responded under the kotaku article. I am not entirely sure that his superiors "forced" an apology out of him, and even if he did, I'm sure he was considering making the apology long before he was forced to after the CRAZY reaction on the 'net.

The statements are apparent contradictions, but it's easy to make them congeal. "I, Maxis developer guy, think the Wii is shit. I don't enjoy playing it, nor do I enjoy the prospect of making games for it. BUT, Nintendo's done a lot of great things with it, such as (he lists them in the apology). As such, it is furthering the industry for everyone, and that's a good thing."

The end, now ppl don't have to be dumb about it. :P

2607  Media / The Soundroom / RPG soundtrack questions on: March 08, 2007, 06:33:15 AM
Quote from: "GrimReality"
Y's Y's Y's - I have all sorts of Y's cds but the original soundtrack to Y's I & II remains my favorite. Y's III was quite good as well.

*psycho fan alert*

NO APOSTROPHE!!!!!!!!!!!

Y's = incorrect. It suggests you should pronounce like a plural of the letter "y". As in "Wise."

Ys = correct. Pronounce it as if you were saying "East," but drop the t.

Had to say it. Also, he's right about the music. It's freaking fantastic.

The least memorable Ys soundtrack probably goes to Ys V. Ys IV has good music, but it's RARE stuff. I and II has been reprinted in all shapes and sizes, and is a great buy. III recently had its music remade in "Oath in Felghana" -- awesome soundtrack. Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim is a completely different sound from a whole new era of Falcom...but personally, I liked it.

Finally, Ys Origin has a soundtrack coming out in late March..expect a review from us. :P

Other good Falcom albums? The arranged albums for the Legend of Heroes series is good, and they're still available. All the other good stuff is super-hard to get these days.

2608  The Rest / General Discussions / Spore developer thinks Wii "is a piece of shit." on: March 08, 2007, 06:22:55 AM
Quote from: "Eusis"
I'm not going to argue about whether it's art or not, but I think it's games like Xenosaga that fit Hideo Kojima's comment that games aren't art, but museums. Stuff like Shadow of the Colossus and possibly Killer 7 are the games that are art, not the games that present art. Nevertheless, you have to be entertained by the game in some manner, and really unfun gameplay doesn't work there.

I didn't know that Kojima quote, but I really like it.

Personally, I'm deeply entrenched in the "videogames can be art" camp. As some of you know, I thought very, very highly of Xenosaga III. But I will need to ponder more on what Eusis has brought to my attention. I have a lot of respect for Kojima, and that may well be a good way of looking at games. After all, a lot of what I love in a game's plot has little to do with "originality" -- as a multimedia presentation, it really is a blending of lots of very, very good things. One has to wonder how much impact it can have on a person.

That said:

The day we lump the Mona Lisa, Beethoven's Fifth and Grand Theft Auto in the same category...

Yeah...I think you're missing the concept here. Mona Lisa is a painting, a work of fine art. Beethoven's Fifth is a musical piece, part of the performing arts. Grand Theft Auto is...umm...well, I think GTA is a piece of shit. But it's also a videogame, which may be understood as "multimedia-based art" (possibly called a multisensory aesthetic experience...but yeah...).

This particular example pushes your point nicely, but the tables could easily be turned simply on the basis of quality, profundity, meaning, and (most importantly) age. For your art and music you cite things to which videogames cannot have a comparison, precisely because they are so new. They exist, yes, primarily as a form of entertainment, but the same *could* be argued about music (it took a long time for societies to accept music as a form of art...read what Plato had to say about music sometime).

The fact that films and videogames are primarily used to push a profit doesn't mean they *cannot* be a legit form of art.

But uhh...back to what douche bag Nintendo-basher said, I think you're right that HE has no place to argue about art forms. I have a hard time trusting official statements from Sony and Microsoft claiming that they want to see videogames develop as an art form. In my mind, that's something like reading in Seventeen magazine that they want to promote writing and literature as an art form.


2609  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / FFXI march update on: March 08, 2007, 05:55:13 AM
anyone still playing?

I've been trying to keep up with the Aht Urhgan missions. Random solo exploring in most of the beastmen area = REALLY bad idea.

I like what they're doing with the game, mostly.

2610  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Digital Devil Saga on: March 07, 2007, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: "Bernhardt"
Lastly, I'd like to ask about the two games' soundtracks: how stylistically different from the first is the second? Is the second more or less upbeat, and how much more or less ominous than the first?

Not much difference. They're both awesome. I like 2 a little more.

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