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2671  The Rest / General Discussions / Mel Gibson Hates Jews on: August 01, 2006, 03:22:46 AM
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Mel Gibson is racist like Sora. I bet he hates heartless too.


Multi-thread tie-in! It's like a cartoon crossover! Or a cartoon-movie-videogame crossover, like Kingdom Hearts!

EFFING GENIUS

Ramza
2672  The Rest / General Discussions / KH2: Is Sora a racist or discriminater? dun dun dun duuuuun. on: July 31, 2006, 12:03:10 PM
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"Diversity Hearts 2" - Now with more friendship!


If it's anything like South Park's Diversity Concentration Camp, I'm in.

Ramza
2673  The Rest / General Discussions / Lego version of Michael Jackson music video, Thriller on: July 31, 2006, 04:28:03 AM
Lots of dedication went into it. The only part I really enjoyed was the big choreographed dance sequence...and I waited 8 minutes to get to that part. :P

Was this made by the same people who do lego bible stories? That site rules.

Ramza
2674  The Rest / General Discussions / KH2: Is Sora a racist or discriminater? dun dun dun duuuuun. on: July 31, 2006, 04:12:49 AM
I was thinking of making a rude comment and saying "our new board poster might not know to highlight the black area, so I didn't use the spoiler tag"...but in all honesty, I totally just forgot. Post has been edited! ^^

Ramza
2675  The Rest / General Discussions / KH2: Is Sora a racist or discriminater? dun dun dun duuuuun. on: July 31, 2006, 04:05:04 AM
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Thought: if these people are older than 20 they need a life. Ooops!


If by "these people" you mean the people posting on this thread, you're a huge hypocrite. Age doesn't matter, friend. If you think people posting on threads "need a life," then go get one and leave us alone. I don't have any insecurity with myself or the amount of time I spent on a computer, so back off rockstar.

I'd say "I'm sorry" that others on this thread aren't giving a serious response to your posed theory/question, but I'm not sorry, because 1) no one's quite sure what it is you're trying to say, and 2) this isn't about race.

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when you play, lets say Grand Theft Auto, theres alote of racist things in there.


Yeah, that's in there for humor. Race-related humor, albeit offensive to many, can be found in all kinds of venues. You said you're Mexican? Go watch Comedy Central's Mind of Mencia. The guy's entire basis for jokes relies on ethnic stereotypes (and maybe a few gay jokes). I'm not justifying GTA (I for one hate the series), but I'm just saying that all because you hear or see something "racist" in a game, that doesn't mean the creators of said game want you to take it literally. That's why it's humor...it's not meant to make a REAL point about REAL life.

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It may not seem like much but it teaches him to hate people that a indeferent


I'll start by proofreading this quote to what I think it's supposed to say:

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It (that is, Kingdom Hearts and my vaguely-stated contention with said title) may not seem like much {to those of you on this message board}, but {I think} it teaches him to hate people that {are different}.


Assuming that's what you were trying to say, let me start by disagreeing. Kingdom Hearts (and every action/adventure/RPG title on the market) does NOT teach your brother to hate people that are different *just because* they're different. Sora fights heartless and nobodies because 1) hello! They struck first, they're attacking innocent people!, 2) the "heartless" are by definition depraved of a heart, so they're a bit like zombies (zombies aren't a race or ethnicity, they're a fictional category of undead humans who, if they really existed, ought to be stopped from their dastardly ways), 3) nobodies, according to the game, have lost their identity.

****SPOILER ALERT****

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If you finished the game, you know that Roxas is Sora's Nobody. At the end, Roxas joins back into Sora to become whole again. Namine also joins with Kairi for the same reason. This shows that not *all* Nobodies are bad. The bad ones are the ones working with Organization XIII in a plot to essentially destroy the world as they knew it.

Also, for what it's worth, KH2 allowed previous villains (the truly-revealed Ansem, Maleficent) to be redeemed this time around. They do noble deeds and aren't as truly "evil" as you had thought them to be the first time around. They just made some dumb/selfish decisions, and (for those that continue to live) will probably keep making them.


****SPOILER ALERT END****

If you're asserting that the color symbolism is trying to make a point: the Nobodies are white (well light gray, off-white) and the Heartless are black. Both are bad guys. So what's your point? If Sora is a racist, of what *race* is he a supremacist? Spikey-haired tan pre-teens? You tell me.

So yeah, anyway, the game, interpreted correctly, does NOT teach people to hate others for being different. It teaches people to stand up and fight when evil, chaos, mayhem, and injustice is being done. You may protest that Sora did not have just cause to seek out and fight Organization XIII, but if you really want to debate that, I suggest you take it to a real-life forum and talk about the War in Iraq (certainly a more suspicious situation than Sora's). Tetsuya Nomura and whoever else was involved in the plot/scenario for KH2 are definitely well-meaning individuals who are attempting to tell a story that, while using Disney characters for nostalgia, is epic and scope and traditional in social morals and ethics.

Really, whatever argument you're trying to pose could be transposed to any situation with good guys and bad guys. Use Lord of the Rings if you want. Weren't they RACIST against those orcs and goblins? Yeah, but in REAL LIFE, orcs and goblins don't exist. No human ethnic group is hell-bent on destroying all the others (at least, none that I know of...and Islamic radicals are not an ethnic group, they're a very small political-religious cult).

If you're worried that your siblings will adopt violent behaviors based on the gameplay of Kingdom Hearts, then you probably shouldn't let them play it (and be a role model: you yourself don't play it either). Otherwise, if your siblings seem to be discriminating against others for stupid reasons like the shade of another person's skin or a difference in language, or height, etc...just explain to them that such discrimination is ignorant. If they were to use Kingdom Hearts as their defense (which I doubt they would do), just refer to my previous arguments.

There, you got a real response. I "hit you back." Now you should probably go away before you get flamed to hell and back by less gentle members of our board.

Ramza
2676  The Rest / General Discussions / What the hell does this mean? E3 Gone? on: July 31, 2006, 03:24:39 AM
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I would assume that if they were cutting down media representatives that sites like RPGFan would be shafted even for fansites with lower ratings on the basis that they cover only a genre.


I think Rico's right. However...

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unless publishers themselves got to dole out a certain amount of invites and it wasn't an all-ESA thing.


That would be awesome. I'm sure Square Enix and Atlus would get us in. ^^
2677  The Rest / General Discussions / What the hell does this mean? E3 Gone? on: July 30, 2006, 03:21:50 PM
ho - ly crap.

Yeah, um...

*tears*

I'm glad I at least made it to the last two E3s.

We'll see what happens.

Ramza
2678  The Rest / General Discussions / Human Consciousness' existence on: July 29, 2006, 12:05:41 AM
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We are just the sum total of the activity of neurons. We assume that we have free will and that we make decisions, but we don't. Neurons do.


If "we" don't, but "neurons" do...BUT I am the sum total of neuron activity, then aren't the neurons equivalent to me? And thus, I *do* have a will, I just don't understand how my own will is formulated.

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Some people believe we are something beyond neurons, but of course we are not.


Of course we aren't! It's so obvious. All that silliness about people having "souls" and whatnot, it's all silly blind religious stupidity.

Sorry, call it my defense mechanism, but without simply mocking these sorts of statements, I don't see why I don't just throw my life away in a senseless act of mass violence. It's called Nihilism. Yee-freakin'-ha.

Ramza
2679  The Rest / General Discussions / The question begs to be asked: on: July 26, 2006, 01:23:37 PM
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There is no point for polls when my opinion is always right.


For The Win.
2680  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth on: July 24, 2006, 03:14:47 AM
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I really hate it when people talk first-person in their reviews.


Then leave.

And don't read reviews on the internet.

Or most magazines.

IMO John's review was excellent.

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make yourself look like a suckup.


Better than being a dick who waltzes into a forum simply to bash a person for using the pronoun "I".
2681  The Rest / General Discussions / Bruce Dickinson is the fucking man. on: July 24, 2006, 12:07:11 AM
This is sheer awesome. I'm sure plenty of celebrities have put lots of money towards lots of charities. But here's a guy who puts his own time (and life) into it.

Iron Maiden FTW. I don't even like the genre of music that much, but this is just about the coolest thing evar.

Ramza
2682  The Rest / General Discussions / The importance of gaming in a potential girl/boyfriend on: July 23, 2006, 09:23:47 PM
My wife is wildly supportive of everything I do, which is a nice ego boost. She is always saying "I'm gonna play an RPG one of these days" -- hasn't happened yet.

On the positive side, she just wrote a soundtrack review. And she might be playing Dark Cloud 2 soon.

Ramza
2683  The Rest / General Discussions / Valve's Portal on: July 23, 2006, 03:42:34 AM
Definitely watched this video over ten times now.

The second-to-last scene where he jumps, shoots two portals into the ground, flies up from his second portal, shoots a third portal into the wall, then falls and flies out of the wall...oh yeah. That's some hot shiznit.

Can't wait.

Ramza
2684  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Jeanne d'Arc (Joan of Arc) on: July 21, 2006, 11:49:06 PM
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People complain about a lack of original titles on PlayStation Portable, and then if somebody finally ends up making an original RPG like in this case Level 5, it's not original enough :P.


Well said!

i just watched the trailer and loved it. Level5 developing a strat RPG looks to be a good match.

Also, for ppl who said "should be on DS..." why? What purpose would the touch screen and/or dual screen serve? Also, anime cutscenes <3. I'm glad PSP will be getting a *really* good RPG.

Ramza
2685  Media / The Soundroom / Fun acoustic white rap on: June 05, 2006, 03:12:20 AM
My little brother put together a recording studio and record label for local acts. My best friend's little brother has put a lot of work into a fairly humorous rap group called "Crunk Alms." You're pretty much guaranteed to like it. And I play piano on one of the songs.

http://www.myspace.com/crunkalms

Exposure exposure. You will enjoy.

Patrick
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