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16  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: October 07, 2014, 12:14:07 PM
My aunt got me an Xperia z2 tablet for my birthday, though I don't know what to do with a tablet.

Does anyone have suggestions for things I can do with a tablet better than my laptop?

I'm downloading the Kindle app for e-books.
17  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: October 06, 2014, 06:59:57 PM
Not to mention how hard it is for some overweight people just to go to the gym. Not because of laziness, but the fear of being judged and mocked just for trying. How sad a thought is that? We live in in such a prejudiced and intolerant society that we seek to put people down while they try to fix the thing we are putting them down for. It seems very damned if you do damned if you don't, to me.

I don't know about the U.S./Europe, but I know we have some gyms here in Montreal for overweight people only.

That sounds like a good thing.

I live in a small town so we don't have anything like that near us, but I hope it exists in some form here in Scotland. :)
18  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: October 06, 2014, 06:50:21 PM
@Annubis: Well, I'm glad we agree on healthcare. :)

I will just say, how are you so sure people aren't trying to get better? After all weight loss isn't something that can happen overnight, it can be a journey that lasts years for some people. Are they supposed to just feel completely worthless until society deems them accepetable enough to warrant a shred of self-respect?


I thought about this at the gym today, actually (since this discussions tarted this morning[?].  There are a plenty* of overweight people at my gym clearly working to fix what they don't like --- and you're right, outside of this place it's very hard to tell who is trying to lose wight and who isn't.



Not to mention how hard it is for some overweight people just to go to the gym. Not because of laziness, but the fear of being judged and mocked just for trying. How sad a thought is that? We live in in such a prejudiced and intolerant society that we seek to put people down while they try to fix the thing we are putting them down for. It seems very damned if you do damned if you don't, to me.

Goddamnit, you sucked me back in...I have never ONCE thought anything other than "good for you" (or thought nothing of it) when I've seen an overweight person on the trail or at the gym.   

Did I? It wasn't a conscious effort, trust me.

And that's good, I'm glad.
19  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: October 06, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
@Annubis: Well, I'm glad we agree on healthcare. :)

I will just say, how are you so sure people aren't trying to get better? After all weight loss isn't something that can happen overnight, it can be a journey that lasts years for some people. Are they supposed to just feel completely worthless until society deems them accepetable enough to warrant a shred of self-respect?


I thought about this at the gym today, actually (since this discussions tarted this morning[?].  There are a plenty* of overweight people at my gym clearly working to fix what they don't like --- and you're right, outside of this place it's very hard to tell who is trying to lose wight and who isn't.



Not to mention how hard it is for some overweight people just to go to the gym. Not because of laziness, but the fear of being judged and mocked just for trying. How sad a thought is that? We live in in such a prejudiced and intolerant society that we seek to put people down while they try to fix the thing we are putting them down for. It seems very damned if you do damned if you don't, to me.
20  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: October 06, 2014, 06:23:46 PM
I don't know, Mesh. I just don't know.

Food for thought, for sure. XD
21  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: October 06, 2014, 06:20:13 PM
Yeah my point was just that if you're unhappy about being fat you shouldn't feel like you NEED to accept yourself for who you are :TTT

I mean I don't like fat people but that's just the general misanthropy speaking there -- my issue isn't the /fat/ part so much as it is the /people/ part.

Of course, it's fair to say "I am unhappy about this part of myself, and I will change that until I am happy with it". Let's not take the word "acceptance" to a literal and extreme degree. Acceptance can more commonly mean "You may be different/unhealthy/something else, but you are still my brother or sister and I won't forsake you for it" rather than  a drive for stagnation.
22  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: October 06, 2014, 06:07:10 PM
@Annubis: Well, I'm glad we agree on healthcare. :)

I will just say, how are you so sure people aren't trying to get better? After all weight loss isn't something that can happen overnight, it can be a journey that lasts years for some people. Are they supposed to just feel completely worthless until society deems them accepetable enough to warrant a shred of self-respect?

How would a fat person, who is told they are worthless and bad, shunned by society ever have the confidence and self-esteem to be able to do something that needs constant long term motivation to achieve it? A movement that seeks to instill these qualities in people who are overweight will help weight loss, not encourage it.

@Glassjawish: It's perfectly fine and correct to say that being overweight is unhealthy, and it is another to deny people the right to self-esteem regardless of their weight. You have twisted my words (and the words of others, like the woman who wrote that article) to create your straw man argument. I believe people should be at a healthy weight and eat the right food, so there we agree. I don't agree that shaming fat people is the answer though.

As for bigotry. Let's just say I'm not entirely convinced that you're a bleeding heart screaming "Why won't they just let me help them? I only want to help by telling them what pathetic excuses for humans they are! :(" bit.

@Natros: The Fat Acceptance movement is real okay!? :[ Havn't you seen thier manifesto? Also high school textbooks are now having to teach that butter is a good substitute for vegetables. WHERE WILL IT END?
23  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: October 06, 2014, 05:36:37 PM
@glassjawsh: This isn't a public health and safety message though. It's righteous indignation towards a group of people for merely existing, it's bigotry. My personal feelings are only hurt in so far as I worry about people whose empathy exists in binary.

@Dincrest: It's never too late though is it? They could become fit just like you did. :)

@Annubis: I guess we just fundamentally disagree about what social healthcare is for then. I think we both know how fruitless even trying to debate that issue is, so I won't bother.
24  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: October 06, 2014, 04:48:02 PM
"You like riding a motorcycle and expect me to pay for your broken leg!" "You work in a mine all your adult life and expect me to pay for your obvious lung problems, eugh!" "You were in the sun without protection, now you have skin cancer and you think that's MY problem?"

That's what social healthcare systems are for, yes, even those disgusting fat people we all seem to abhor so much. An obese person at 50 has to suffer the indignant shrill cries of 19 year olds in regards to healthcare cost. Who do you think has paid more taxes in that regard?

It's fun and easy to demonize people who are overweight and assume they just simply fall into either of these two categories: Don't want to lose weight (probably to spite those thin people!!!!) or too stupid to lose weight.

The article that sparked this whole conversation raised really good points in my opinion, but right from the get go no points were actually raised about anything she said, it just went straight to picking out what you hate most about fat people. The article itself was linked as if to say "Look how wrong this is".

The way people are reacting you would think she is saying "Be fat like me!" instead of "I am not inferior because I am fat, I am a human who is allowed self-respect and allowed to be respected." I mean, how could she imply something like that? What do I have left in life if I can't feel like a superior human. Does it matter if she works in a lab looking for a cure for AIDS or cancer? Or maybe she just works in a supermarket, but looks after an elderly neighbour with no family as well as her own. No, none of that matters, she is fat and sometimes on planes they make me sit beside her. Truly it is an injustice thrust upon me by this bad person.

Yeah, I won't lie I'm a bit saddened by some people on this matter.
25  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Community Quiz Quiz Show! on: October 05, 2014, 02:22:04 PM
What is this? Is no tradition sacred? Friday quizzes, strawpolls. What's next? New quiz takers, no more countdown clock?

This is Madness!

There was a countdown clock. :P You just had to click the time and date in the newsbox and it would have taken you to a countdown clock.

Future quizzes will be on Saturdays, the Friday thing was me not being able to figure out how calenders work when I was arranging it.

i'll have a new strawpoll up this Friday.
26  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PS1 RPG Games on: October 05, 2014, 12:41:21 PM
I need to get around to playing Valkyrie Profile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-JJXbF7cXc

You know you want to.

UGH. I HATE doves. No sell.

jk I'll play it after I finish this Steins;Gate review.
27  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: PS1 RPG Games on: October 05, 2014, 11:53:01 AM
I need to get around to playing Valkyrie Profile.
28  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: October 04, 2014, 04:52:57 AM
I'm sure we've had this conversation before. :p

I used to have warm milk on cereal all the time as a kid, I think it's a cold climate thing. When you wake in a in a freezing cold house in the middle of winter and you are going out to school in the snow, cold cereal isn't as appatising as something hot. Frosties and warm milk or porridge I think was 90% of my childhood breakfasts :p
29  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Community Quiz Quiz Show! on: October 03, 2014, 04:46:06 PM
It was a close battle between Dice and Monsoon, but Monsoon came out ahead by 1 point.

Congrats Monsoon!
30  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Community Quiz Quiz Show! on: October 03, 2014, 03:51:04 PM
Ten minutes til showtime guys.
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