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Subject: Persona 3: FES
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Date: 3rd October 2014 Time: 16:00 EST
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1021  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Favorite and Least Favourite Tactical RPGs on: December 01, 2010, 04:39:02 PM
Hmm...for my absolute favorite I'd have to say Wild Arms XF takes the cake no contest. A challenging SRPG with decent plot/cast and multiple classes that aren't the standard D&D base class list rehashes we've seen constantly cloned in RPGs that use a class system since the original Final Fantasy? Yes please. More SRPGs need to learn from Wild Arms XF's example and start making unique character classes that fit into their world's theme.

As for my least favorite...hard to say. I haven't played many SRPGs that really rubbed me the wrong way. I'd have to say it's a tie between Record of Agarest War and Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth. RoAW for obvious reasons, Hoshigami I can't exactly because I only played it once like...waaay back in 9th grade or about that area. I just remember being really bored and disappointed coming off the heels of FFT.
1022  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ensuring a "true" ending in P3P on: November 29, 2010, 01:09:46 AM
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Son of a...if the pop up text from highlighting it would be changed from "Insert Code" to "Insert Spoiler Tag" that would actually do just nicely I think. Less confusing.
1023  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ensuring a "true" ending in P3P on: November 29, 2010, 12:49:10 AM
Persona 4 had probably the best ending....nothing bad happens!

Having your family, home, friends, familiar settings, and lover/s ripped out from under you twice within a year is nothing bad? XD Maybe my views are a bit biased due to personal experience but I see that as one of the worst things that can happen to someone.

AWMYGAHD PLZ USE SPOILER TAGS OR SOMETHING

That would be nice. If someone would bother to code this forum's posting mechanic with a little button that inserts the Spoiler coding, whatever it is. ~.~;

I'm at least trying to be vague as possible to where people who've played the games should be the only ones who understand the context.
1024  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ensuring a "true" ending in P3P on: November 28, 2010, 10:17:56 PM
Persona 4 had probably the best ending....nothing bad happens!

Having your family, home, friends, familiar settings, and lover/s ripped out from under you twice within a year is nothing bad? XD Maybe my views are a bit biased due to personal experience but I see that as one of the worst things that can happen to someone.
1025  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ensuring a "true" ending in P3P on: November 28, 2010, 10:08:46 PM
Huh, kinda funny that FES is considered to give the game a "proper" conclusion. I thought P3 worked far better without the knowledge of FES's bonus dungeon. Personally it kinda ruined the story for me. :-/

Well, yeah... not much changes.  A bit more explanation, and I think Yukari wanted to admit she wanted him sexually or something (my versions of things in life are askew+2).  Metis looked awesome.

The main thing I'm referring to is the ultimate fate in the protagonist. Sure it's vaguely hinted at in P3 but unless you're extremely paying attention you could easily interpret it as something else. Heck I thought he just took a nap until I read the FES summary.

Having it explained flat out like that removes any room for alternate interpretations and really generates an ending that feels like all your efforts were for nothing. I have a similar issue with Persona 4's ending.
1026  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ensuring a "true" ending in P3P on: November 28, 2010, 09:59:52 PM
Huh, kinda funny that FES is considered to give the game a "proper" conclusion. I thought P3 worked far better without the knowledge of FES's bonus dungeon. Personally it kinda ruined the story for me. :-/
1027  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: JRPGs starting to become all about stripping? on: November 28, 2010, 04:20:54 PM
That, and Jaqli or Jakuri (however you know her) from AT2...her bikino outfit and crotch-strap was largely disturbing haha

Technically, she didn't wear clothes for 300 or so years. They just 'made' her and locked her up in a room to sing.
Be glad people actually succeeded in having her wear something.
Probably as hard as putting clothes on a 2 year old child that isn't being cooperative.

(man...  why am I defending AT so often lately? am I the local AT fanboy or what?)

I'd actually chime into this to say that Jaqli was actually pretty tame. Go to the beach sometime Dice. American swimsuits these days are far more disturbing.

Although if you want a videogame comparison to blow Jaqli out of the "disturbing water" and back into tame territory; how about Tron Bonne from Megaman Legends? Hell as a kid her wardrobe disturbed me. Who in their freaking sane mind BOLTS a METAL CROTCH PLATE onto themselves?
1028  Media / Single-Player RPGs / JRPGs starting to become all about stripping? on: November 27, 2010, 02:03:05 AM
Just saying, despite my views on fanservice this really isn't a complaint or any sort of morality discussion; rather an observation that just now clicked with me that I wanted to discuss with people who know the market better than I do.

So, is it just me or are JRPGs starting to lean dangerously close into Hentai territory? I'm not talking Japan-only stuff that never reaches our shores either; I'm talking about stuff that has come over/will be coming over. With some of the most recent titles I've noticed an "odd" similarity between games from different developers.

Agarest (by Aksys): Goal of the game is basically to pick a girl with whom you will remove her clothing and breed with (not quite as direct as I make it sound but anyone who's played this knows this is the general idea). The game definitely wasn't shy about adding in certain provocative scenes (infamous obligatory sausage comment) and pretty much the only thing between you and full frontal nudity during the soul breed was a specifically placed sheet. XD Agarest Zero and Agarest 2 might come over as well so I'd include them into this grouping.

Ar Tonelico 3 (by Gust): From what I've read about the game one of the core gameplay elements involves removing your Reyvatiel's clothing til she's practically down to nothing but underwear in order to even use certain song magics. In addition I've also hear that this game's fanservice is the most prominent of all three games (a claim I'm not sure I want to see to believe since I hold Aurica's Life Extension scene as one of the most awkward scenes I have ever witnessed in a game).

The 3rd Birthday (by SE): Some love it, some hate it; but we all know by now the game's core mechanic involves having Aya's clothing slowly stripped away (although how far it goes I don't think has been specified) by taking damage.

Probably just an odd coincidence, but it strikes me as unusal that at least 3 JRPGs in less that a year base their core mechanic around how fast you can get your female lead naked. Are there any other titles coming out that also use this mechanic? Is this the new acceptable form of fanservice in JRPGs or...what? Honestly right now I'm kind of intrigued to see if this is some sort of culture shift or not.
1029  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Which Final Fantasy Has The Best Story and Why? on: November 26, 2010, 10:18:31 PM
Oh my god.

Someone needs to tell Square Enix to release Final Fantasy XI as a series of iPhone apps for each storyline.  Figure out the details, but sell the storylines individually.

FF4 had the best story because it was pure.  The giant of Babel wasn't megatron, or some JRPG stereotypical mech, it was just a monster... who happened to be a robot.

Final Fantasy IV is the story that all other stories are based on.  I'm sorry I can't justify this argument.  It's a simple story, but unnecessarily great ideas were put into the simple plot devices, such as Cecil's class change.





I call that "fairy tale" charm.  It's typical, tells an adventure with a knight, pure woman/princess, tragedy, mytic-ness, and good times.  It's nothing complex, just a good tale

Doesn't hurt it either to have a spell-casting Dr. Wily beating bishonens over the head with sticks whilst screaming "You spoony bard!".
>.>
1030  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: I need a villain! on: November 25, 2010, 02:43:42 PM
It's been a while since I played it (and sadly I didn't "quite" finish it, a mistake I'm going to have to rectify) but what about the villain cast from Wild Arms XF? Edna, Rubert, and Weisheit all stood out as pretty vile baddies.
1031  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: I need a villain! on: November 25, 2010, 01:15:56 AM
Does the villain need to be the "final" villain? Because if not I'd say Persona 4 for the next-to-last villain.
1032  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs this gaming generation_Which system to get? on: November 24, 2010, 12:57:54 PM
Chiming in to say "Grab the PSP as well". Besides, "dead console" doesn't mean jack crap these days (even if it was one, which it isn't). Look at the PS2. Persona 3 FES, Persona 4, Mana Khemia 2, Sakura Wars...these all came out when the PS2 was literally on it's last days and they're all fantastic games I still play. Never count a console as out of the race until the very last disk is printed.

Also I'd actually say do not buy a DS. Save your money and buy a 3DS when it comes out next year.
1033  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Which Final Fantasy Has The Best Story and Why? on: November 24, 2010, 02:16:25 AM
Ack, it's been so very long since I played the older FFs that I can't recall their stories in major detail (heck it's been quite some time since I touched the PSOne titles as well). It's a tough call. In terms of how I felt at the time of originally playing the game I would say that IV and VIII left the best impressions on me. In hindsight VI and Tactics stand out as the more solid tales Final Fantasy has spun.

In all honesty though I'd say Final Fantasy Mystic Quest deserves an honorable mention. The plot flows relatively smoothly with decent amounts of seriousness and comedy mixed in for a relatively satisfying conclusion. For an "Intro" RPG. Before you throw flaming spears for me saying that realize lashing on FFMQ's plot for lack of complexity is equivalent to barking about a children's story lacking twists. XD It's a simple story for a introductory audience. At 6 years old I thought it was fantastic.
1034  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: i may not be the biggest fan of the older final fantasies..... on: November 22, 2010, 07:26:56 PM
I remember playing FFV and noting it is much more lighthearted than other Final Fantasies, but I can't remember it being funny. It's been a looong time.

Maybe I should come back to it sometime.

Then I have a single word that should jog your memory: Gilgamesh. XD
1035  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Z.H.P: Unlosing Ranger vs. Darkdeath Evilman on: November 22, 2010, 03:03:16 AM
Nope, just the Etranger costume. Honestly having lame endings doesn't surprise me too much. That's kinda par for the course for NISA.

Honestly I haven't seen any effects from the costumes at all.
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