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1066  Media / Single-Player RPGs / JRPGs starting to become all about stripping? on: November 27, 2010, 02:03:05 AM
Just saying, despite my views on fanservice this really isn't a complaint or any sort of morality discussion; rather an observation that just now clicked with me that I wanted to discuss with people who know the market better than I do.

So, is it just me or are JRPGs starting to lean dangerously close into Hentai territory? I'm not talking Japan-only stuff that never reaches our shores either; I'm talking about stuff that has come over/will be coming over. With some of the most recent titles I've noticed an "odd" similarity between games from different developers.

Agarest (by Aksys): Goal of the game is basically to pick a girl with whom you will remove her clothing and breed with (not quite as direct as I make it sound but anyone who's played this knows this is the general idea). The game definitely wasn't shy about adding in certain provocative scenes (infamous obligatory sausage comment) and pretty much the only thing between you and full frontal nudity during the soul breed was a specifically placed sheet. XD Agarest Zero and Agarest 2 might come over as well so I'd include them into this grouping.

Ar Tonelico 3 (by Gust): From what I've read about the game one of the core gameplay elements involves removing your Reyvatiel's clothing til she's practically down to nothing but underwear in order to even use certain song magics. In addition I've also hear that this game's fanservice is the most prominent of all three games (a claim I'm not sure I want to see to believe since I hold Aurica's Life Extension scene as one of the most awkward scenes I have ever witnessed in a game).

The 3rd Birthday (by SE): Some love it, some hate it; but we all know by now the game's core mechanic involves having Aya's clothing slowly stripped away (although how far it goes I don't think has been specified) by taking damage.

Probably just an odd coincidence, but it strikes me as unusal that at least 3 JRPGs in less that a year base their core mechanic around how fast you can get your female lead naked. Are there any other titles coming out that also use this mechanic? Is this the new acceptable form of fanservice in JRPGs or...what? Honestly right now I'm kind of intrigued to see if this is some sort of culture shift or not.
1067  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Which Final Fantasy Has The Best Story and Why? on: November 26, 2010, 10:18:31 PM
Oh my god.

Someone needs to tell Square Enix to release Final Fantasy XI as a series of iPhone apps for each storyline.  Figure out the details, but sell the storylines individually.

FF4 had the best story because it was pure.  The giant of Babel wasn't megatron, or some JRPG stereotypical mech, it was just a monster... who happened to be a robot.

Final Fantasy IV is the story that all other stories are based on.  I'm sorry I can't justify this argument.  It's a simple story, but unnecessarily great ideas were put into the simple plot devices, such as Cecil's class change.

I call that "fairy tale" charm.  It's typical, tells an adventure with a knight, pure woman/princess, tragedy, mytic-ness, and good times.  It's nothing complex, just a good tale

Doesn't hurt it either to have a spell-casting Dr. Wily beating bishonens over the head with sticks whilst screaming "You spoony bard!".
1068  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: I need a villain! on: November 25, 2010, 02:43:42 PM
It's been a while since I played it (and sadly I didn't "quite" finish it, a mistake I'm going to have to rectify) but what about the villain cast from Wild Arms XF? Edna, Rubert, and Weisheit all stood out as pretty vile baddies.
1069  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: I need a villain! on: November 25, 2010, 01:15:56 AM
Does the villain need to be the "final" villain? Because if not I'd say Persona 4 for the next-to-last villain.
1070  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs this gaming generation_Which system to get? on: November 24, 2010, 12:57:54 PM
Chiming in to say "Grab the PSP as well". Besides, "dead console" doesn't mean jack crap these days (even if it was one, which it isn't). Look at the PS2. Persona 3 FES, Persona 4, Mana Khemia 2, Sakura Wars...these all came out when the PS2 was literally on it's last days and they're all fantastic games I still play. Never count a console as out of the race until the very last disk is printed.

Also I'd actually say do not buy a DS. Save your money and buy a 3DS when it comes out next year.
1071  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Which Final Fantasy Has The Best Story and Why? on: November 24, 2010, 02:16:25 AM
Ack, it's been so very long since I played the older FFs that I can't recall their stories in major detail (heck it's been quite some time since I touched the PSOne titles as well). It's a tough call. In terms of how I felt at the time of originally playing the game I would say that IV and VIII left the best impressions on me. In hindsight VI and Tactics stand out as the more solid tales Final Fantasy has spun.

In all honesty though I'd say Final Fantasy Mystic Quest deserves an honorable mention. The plot flows relatively smoothly with decent amounts of seriousness and comedy mixed in for a relatively satisfying conclusion. For an "Intro" RPG. Before you throw flaming spears for me saying that realize lashing on FFMQ's plot for lack of complexity is equivalent to barking about a children's story lacking twists. XD It's a simple story for a introductory audience. At 6 years old I thought it was fantastic.
1072  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: i may not be the biggest fan of the older final fantasies..... on: November 22, 2010, 07:26:56 PM
I remember playing FFV and noting it is much more lighthearted than other Final Fantasies, but I can't remember it being funny. It's been a looong time.

Maybe I should come back to it sometime.

Then I have a single word that should jog your memory: Gilgamesh. XD
1073  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Z.H.P: Unlosing Ranger vs. Darkdeath Evilman on: November 22, 2010, 03:03:16 AM
Nope, just the Etranger costume. Honestly having lame endings doesn't surprise me too much. That's kinda par for the course for NISA.

Honestly I haven't seen any effects from the costumes at all.
1074  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs for beginners on: November 22, 2010, 03:01:10 AM
Eh, it kinda depends if you're looking for a rather melodramatic story or not. FFVI is pretty good on all counts but there's no denying the game can be a bit of a downer at times. Heck even the ending at it's "best" has some bittersweet moments.

Personally I'm going to be the vocal minority here and say that if you have to play an FF game again to go for V. Honestly I think the class system in V trumps the Magicite system in VI. That and typically I prefer light-hearted adventure/comedy > drama.
1075  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Z.H.P: Unlosing Ranger vs. Darkdeath Evilman on: November 21, 2010, 11:32:24 PM
Lol, I just now got that costume. Finally had enough of grinding the dungeons in vain so finally decided to finish the game. Really easy when your stored level count is like 4300+. >>; Might try and do more unlocking later. I'm more interested in the alternate endings now.
1076  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Z.H.P: Unlosing Ranger vs. Darkdeath Evilman on: November 21, 2010, 02:04:11 PM
I've found the "trick" you're supposed to do is wait until Floor 51-59 and find two things. A mirror and a zombie. Place the zombie in front of the mirror and wait until it's cloned. Kill it, then lift the clone and toss it onto the bones of the old zombie. Wait for a clone then rinse/repeat. Eventually you'll have zombies respawning as soon as you kill one, making an infinite XP cycle. I grinded up to about LV 168 before stopping.

Once at the 60F boss, trigger Unlosing SPD for practically infinite turns and kill the leader. Once she's down the dungeon ends.

I'm working on the "Mid" Dungeon now and the unfairness dial has been cranked to 11. Enemies level up based on what floor you're on. 1F-10F = 1 level per floor. 11F-20F = 2 levels per floor, ect. I used to only make it to floor 32-36F until I stumbled onto an Excavator shop item that boosts XP per kill. I directed almost all my hero energy to it so it now gives me +70% XP per kill. Sadly this only has kept up with the insane enemy levels until the mid 40F range. Then it's steam roll city all over again. XP
1077  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Z.H.P: Unlosing Ranger vs. Darkdeath Evilman on: November 18, 2010, 02:53:21 AM
Has anyone found any HP chips for your Shadowgram? I've filled the cursed thing to the brim with every other chip but HP ones still elude me. XP
1078  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Phantom Brave: The Hermuda Triangle on: November 17, 2010, 02:30:40 PM
Heh, PB actually has an interesting "exploit" that makes it too easy IMO. All you have to do is some minor dungeon farming (or get really lucky in the weapon shop) and find a Dark Knife (I think that's what it's called) and give it to Marona. As long as you properly maintain the thing with upgrades (and fuse it with something to give her healing magic) when necessary she and Ash can pretty much duo every primary stage in the game.

With a high-end title (not even one of the "Highest" titles) she can solo at average levels.
1079  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Confused about Shin Megami Tensei games on: November 17, 2010, 05:56:57 AM
For some reason I never found SMT games too controversial or disturbing. Drakengard was much worse. Giant cannibal babies is creepier than anything SMT has ever thrown at me.

Way too freaking true. I'd forgotten about that game. Thanks for removing that mental block. XD Drakengard probably deserves the title for "Greatest Mind-Rape in a Video Game".
1080  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Confused about Shin Megami Tensei games on: November 17, 2010, 02:11:38 AM
FF7 and beyond all had some decently dark/graphic parts depending on where you look.

*might as well wrack the memory for some brief examples*

FF7: In addition to the part you mentioned Star don't forget we got to see the full frontal view of a mutated human woman with an eyeball-breast not that far into the game (JENOVA).

FF8: How about the fact that you're primary power source for the game gives you phenomenal summoning powers in exchange for slowly eating away your memories until eventually there's nothing left; leaving you as a hollow shell that doesn't remember anything. (They never elaborate too much but in theory this means you could potentially forget everything. From what events defined your personality to basic potty training. And these memory deletions seem to happen in random order too.)

FF9: Now even 2 hours into the game...Princess Garnett is implanted with seeds that basically threaten to sprout inside her body and kill her as the "death plant" grows.

FF10: Unintentionally so, but if anyone's watched Spoony's review of FF10 you'll notice the cast makes a lot of disturbing choices that are quite dark when you think about the callous/uncaring nature behind it. "We just saw a village slaughtered by Sin? That's nice. Screw advancing our mission, it's time for Blitzball!" being the primary example. There are so many cases of the party unintentionally acting like villainous d-bags that it makes you wonder. XD

FF10-2: Rikku. XD *light-hearted sarcasm*
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