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1081  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3? on: September 30, 2010, 12:39:27 AM
So...basically it's PSP graphics with the stylus gameplay tacked on and supposedly the ability to project 3D images during gameplay? Honestly my eyes aren't really that great when it comes to picking out "graphical superiority" this generation so if I'm off base with this assumption you'll have to correct me.
Reading the writings smashed out by a retarded blind monkey with a keyboard taped to its wrists is preferable to your intensely stupid diatribes.

It's like you're saying the PS2 to PS3 jump just involves prettier graphics.

Well pardon me for not having a list of changed features at my beck and call 24/7 when the video presented to provide evidence of these led to my simplification of the product. Really now I ask a sincere question and that's the reply? There are many things I could say in response to that but will refrain from doing so simply on the assumption that you're a civil individual only giving into a bout of irrational temper.

Really all that video showed was a handheld machine like the DS with PSP level graphics and an analog stick. I know nothing about the machine except what little marketing I've seen so any differences that are not superficial will have to be explained.
1082  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3? on: September 30, 2010, 12:30:04 AM
There's a bit of a difference between shifting a series at the start of a generation and in the middle of a generation.
Then what's your problem with this game?

With the game itself? My views on console jumping aside I actually do have one valid concern about the game at present (But DS an PSP are part of the same generation, and are within the two generation range I consider to be reasonable for a series to stick with a company): It's on a handheld.

Now I actually have valid reasoning for this. Anyone whose played the original MMLs should at least remember the basic control scheme. The handhelds this generation are about two shoulder buttons and one analog stick short of being able to operate with the same reliability. No second stick and no shoulder buttons means the lock-on or the camera/manual aiming is going to suffer.

Plus there's the fact that the DS's primary control is the stylus. I want to play MML with a stylus about as much as I want to play Starfox with a stylus.

Sure they probably will find some surprising way to circumvent these issues but immediately these concerns fill me with a small amount of apprehension.
1083  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3? on: September 30, 2010, 12:22:00 AM
Unless there's some major change to the console besides adding the 3D gimmick I don't see how this handheld is anymore of a "Generation Jump" than the DS to the DSi wasn't.

Don't bother replying until you've watched this.

So...basically it's PSP graphics with the stylus gameplay tacked on and supposedly the ability to project 3D images during gameplay? Honestly my eyes aren't really that great when it comes to picking out "graphical superiority" this generation so if I'm off base with this assumption you'll have to correct me.
1084  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3? on: September 30, 2010, 12:16:19 AM
Actually my "standards" have nothing to do with it. XD I'm perfectly fine with Nintendo as a company and with their products. The only thing stopping me from purchasing a DS is monetary problems and life expenses.

I'm not upset Nintendo has the product, I'm just irked and the unpredictability of what games go where this generation and more than slightly irked at myself for assuming certain titles that seemed steadfast Sony titles didn't roll over.
1085  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3? on: September 30, 2010, 12:07:28 AM
There's a bit of a difference between shifting a series at the start of a generation and in the middle of a generation.

What the hell?  The system isn't even out yet.  And the last one was a friggin PS1 game.  Please explain to me how this is anything like switching in 'the middle of a generation'.

Because I count generations by Home Consoles rather than handhelds. And even if it's in "3D" it's still being marketed as DS, so pretty much the same handheld we're had since the original DS. Unless there's some major change to the console besides adding the 3D gimmick I don't see how this handheld is anymore of a "Generation Jump" than the DS to the DSi wasn't.
1086  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3? on: September 29, 2010, 11:59:05 PM
 Obviously by this logic Final Fantasy VII must have been a huge failure since nobody would buy it after Square 'screwed over' their fans by not putting it on a Nintendo system.

There's a bit of a difference between shifting a series at the start of a generation and in the middle of a generation. FFVII wasn't that big of an issue because it was early in the console's life cycle and basically said "Hey, we're Sony and we have Final Fantasy this generation. Keep that in mind before buying your console because if you want to play Final Fantasy you need to come with us."

I'm sure there might've been a difference if FF VII was kept under total wraps until halfway through the life cycles of the systems only to be sprung only after most consumers had bought their console of choice.

Kid yourself if you want, but the only must own console last gen was the PS2. The other consoles just couldn't compare, in terms of library. I would much rather have console library diversity than what we had last gen.

Honestly I'm not in 100% agreement with that. Was PS2 by far the more impressive of the three consoles? Yes. But despite being a PS2 owner there were plenty of titles on the Gamecube and the Xbox that made me look over and go "Wow...I wish I had that instead right now." from time to time. You can have console diversity without taking the titles of Game Adventure's 1-5 and tossing them one at a time into random hats and deciding "Whichever hat they land in is the system we'll publish on!" ala Kingdom Hearts.
1087  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3? on: September 29, 2010, 11:40:37 PM
This is absurd. It's not like the PS/PS2 era where there was a clear cut "winner." Every system is economically viable, and it makes sense to put games on systems that will be most benecial to both companies and consumers. If it were up to people like you, everything would be on one system and every other system can rot in hell. You would rather have the monopolistic practices of companies like Nintendo durng the NES days return instead of allowing developers free reignm just so you can have an easier time. The fact that we're even gettin MML3 is huge, yet people are acting like a bunch of little bitches about it. Would you rather we don't get the game at all?

Grow a pair and get over it.

Funny, I never said anywhere that I wanted "everything on one console". I said that I desired a clear cut console identity for game series so that I know what I'm getting into when I buy a console. Nintendo can have it's long line of great titles, so can Sony, so can Microsoft. Hell so can Apple. I honestly don't care who gets it so long as it stays in place for the duration of the generation or two. The PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era was a great example of this and all three did well enough that I fail to see how "monopolistic" could apply to the scenario at all.
1088  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3? on: September 29, 2010, 11:25:05 PM
This isn't about just Megaman. There are plenty of other titles pulling this nonsense these days. Hell look at another game series from the PSOne era that's actually doing it right. Parasite Eve. We've known since PE2 that the potential for a sequel was out there and for many years we waited. Low and behold here it is for PSP, not a console product but still a Sony product. Now you have Megaman Legends jumping ship. It's like Kingdom Hearts set the example and for some reason everyone and their dog wants to ride the same trick pony. The horse's legs have to give out sometime.



Actually you're just proving my point. During the NES era Megaman was a Nintendo-Only thing. You didn't have to buy every console on the market just in case Megaman 5 went somewhere different than Megaman 4. Not to mention I don't lump all the Megaman games under one "brand". For example during the PSOne era one could always count on Megaman X sequels being on PSOne while you could like wise count on numerical sequels to Megaman Battlenet Work being a Nintendo thing. The two never really jumped sides with the exception of Megaman Command Mission, but that was eventually brought to both sides of the pond.
1089  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3? on: September 29, 2010, 11:11:40 PM
Seriously this generation of gaming's console jumping tactic almost presents a valid argument for piracy.
This is frankly the most retarded thing posted here so far.

:-P I said "almost". I was using hyperbole to emphasize my point that all this console jumping nonsense is eventually going to drive the customers away from franchises they've long respected and adored. If you take morals out of the equation you're left with a simple question:

"Why the hell are they expecting me to pay approximately $1140 + tax just for the chance to play five games in a series where no more than 5 years ago I would only have to pay $300 for a guarantee to play my favorite game series? Especially when I can just get it for free from questionable sources?"

Piracy isn't something to be supported I'll say right now. But with so many games series spreading their sequential titles out across multiple platforms they aren't making a very strong case to support their businesses.

Wow, there hasn't been a MML game since the PS1, and you guys are freaking out about betrayal?  I'm sorry you invested so much into your original playstations.

This isn't about just Megaman. There are plenty of other titles pulling this nonsense these days. Hell look at another game series from the PSOne era that's actually doing it right. Parasite Eve. We've known since PE2 that the potential for a sequel was out there and for many years we waited. Low and behold here it is for PSP, not a console product but still a Sony product. Now you have Megaman Legends jumping ship. It's like Kingdom Hearts set the example and for some reason everyone and their dog wants to ride the same trick pony. The horse's legs have to give out sometime.
1090  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mega Man Legends 3? on: September 29, 2010, 10:49:54 PM
Oh look. Another game series I loved that has unpredictably jumped companies after being part of a franchise that was pretty much a Sony controlled deal...I raise the bird to you Capcom. I raise the bird as high as I can. Seriously this generation of gaming's console jumping tactic almost presents a valid argument for piracy. I miss the days where if you wanted to play a game serious you could always rely on it coming out on a specific console for the duration of it's lifespan (not counting remakes and ports). Now if you want to play the follow ups to your favorite game series you need to own every console from every company as you have no idea if it's going to be Console or Handheld (points to Valkyria Chronicles). Or Sony or Nintendo or Microsoft.

Seriously...it's bull crap. I'm just waiting for the day the industry takes the next dosage of stupid pills and tries something like releasing Fable IV on the Apple Iphone or Microsoft coming out with a handheld and Final Fantasy XV being exclusive to it.

Edit: Damn...that's the first time I've been irked so badly that my sense of grammar was entirely shot. XD *cleans the post up*
1091  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Disgaea 4 Announced and Trailer on: September 18, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Finally got around to watching the trailer. It "almost" makes me regret not getting a PS3 again. It's interesting but honestly I'll just watch Youtube for the highlights. After 3 games Disgaea's going to have to do something really major to impress me. That and now that I'm no longer in school I really don't have the endless hours required to grind on such a game for all the story tidbits. Honestly I wish they'd focus on the classes then on the combat gimmicks like Magi-Change (or whatever the proper name is for turning monsters into weapons) or tower acrobatics. It feels like they're focusing more on the things you'll never really "need" to use in the game and ignoring the core elements over the past 3 installments. (I've never had to do anything more complicated than basic tossing to progress in the games.)

Something like "Two New and Unique Human Classes!" would interest me far more than "We made our monster (weapons) grow! And you can hold two of them!".
1092  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The "Fucking JRPGs" Thread on: September 18, 2010, 02:37:05 AM
I'm surprised no one mentioned the awful conversations in Ar Tolenico 2.

I felt sexually violated hearing the script and not in the good way

I still fail to see how AT2 was that bad. IMO, the original Ar Tonelico still holds that honor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoODv8LVib8

First time I played through the game I went Aurica's route...dear lord I have never been so glad that RPGs are typically single-player games...
1093  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Disgaea 4 Announced and Trailer on: September 17, 2010, 06:38:48 PM
Might as well ask here since it's a Disgaea thread, which is the superior version of Disgaea 1: PS2? PSP? DS? I've been meaning to get into this series for forever since I loved FFT. I've played La Pucelle and enjoyed that enough to beat it.

The PSP one. It looks great on the PSP`s screen and has some new features over the PS2 version. The DS version is the worst, obviously. Disgaea may not be the most technically proficient game ever, but it`s still way above what the DS could handle.

Seconded. Even owning the original Disgaea I still bought the PSP version for Etna mode alone. Can't go wrong with it.
1094  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The 3rd Birthday on: September 11, 2010, 03:04:37 PM

Right, because showing some skin = rape...

*Kevadu rolls eyes.

Fadedsun hit it on the nose. I wasn't speaking literally. I said "almost" literally because really all you'd have to do at this point is remove the barely there underwear, add tentacles and bam.

If my hyperbole is too extreme then allow me to use a different phrase: Character Assassination.

Might I also add I count "showing some skin" and "having all of your rear minus the actually excrement hole exposed for the world to see for long extended periods of time" to be two different categories.
1095  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The 3rd Birthday on: September 11, 2010, 11:24:18 AM
Parasite Eve has always been pretty blatant on the fan service. Have you seen Nomura's original art for Aya?

That is irrelevant because that art was never turned into in game graphics for Parasite Eve. Unless there's some super secret unlock code where you can have Aya's PS1 pixelated rear shoved in your face while running around in game.

And ValendianKnight I think you're missing the point here. It's not a matter of "offensive material". Hell PE1 had some element of nudity but at least that was used tastefully and with purpose. It's that very "immaturity" you cited that's causing issue here. Aya was, for all intents an purposes, a "mature" character I could take seriously an empathize with in the story. The setting was dark, the main character was believable, and over all the story took itself seriously.

Now The 3rd Birthday goes along and some idiot decides to let Bevis and Butthead program it.

"Heh heh...hey Bevis...look...her butt's hanging out, heh heh. That'll totally make the game sell...heh heh."

This level immaturity doesn't belong in the PE universe, especially applied to Aya. It's the kind of crap I would expect from a Compile Heart game or NISA's more immature translation moments (Record of Agarest War and Ar Tonelico 2 comes to mind); not from something out of the PE series.

If this game had anyone else as the main character and wasn't bearing the Parasite Eve name I wouldn't care. I'd roll my eyes and let it join the other hoards of fanservicy games that come from Japan on a weekly basis. But the fact that they're, almost literally, raping Aya as a character outright without all the subtly of a 12 year old hyped up on sugar who just hit puberty and discovered the internet...that irritates me to no end.
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