Brand loyalty was probably the wrong argument tactic for me to take. I have ideas and usually they're valid but often times between the brain and the keys (or mouth) they become disjointed. XP Sorry if it seemed like I was stirring the pot. The initial "ZOMG it's on 3DS!" was a bit of a kneejerk but that good old fashioned bickering helped work that out.

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Actually something that's been kind of bugging me since the whole MML3 thing came up. Yes, it's a nitpick, but it's one I kinda find important. What art style do you think they will use for MML3? Megaman games in general over the past couple of years or so have been getting some...weird make overs. Mega Man Powered Up and Mega Man Universe come to mind. Do you think they'll go for more a "serious" (I use the word lightly) art style or the quasi-cartoony style that was prominent in those games (and honestly shows up in a fair amount of DS titles I've seen from browsing the cases during window shopping sessions).

Except for the sacrilege part (just because as far as I can remember I've always had multiple gaming systems from different companies, typically Sony and Nintendo) I'll agree to that. XD

Hah. Not really. It's simply called having to feed six mouths on one sub-standard paycheck. If I want the latest and greatest stuff I have to give up the old to make with the new. That means when I buy something new I have to make damn sure it's what I want. XD

Well, I did own a DS at one point. But this was waaaaay back when it first came out and about the only reason I kept it around was to play the Phoenix Wright games. So it's been a long time since I've even looked at one's gameplay videos.  I'll probably wait and see how MML3 turns out and what the price tag is on the system before considering whether or not to nuke the PSP and 360 to get it. Thanks for the information. ^_^


No, that's actually something I mentioned in a post a few posts ago or so...I've stopped counting and it doesn't matter enough to try and dig it up now. XP I've had my bark on the subject and I'm pretty sure I've gotten most of it out of my system.

Really? Maybe it was just me then but I thought the MML 1 & 2 controls and camera were pretty decent. If they weren't I guess I just adjusted to them to the point where I didn't notice any flaws. I don't think I'm too worried about them using the analog stick for movement. Although the proximity of the analog to the D-pad looks a bit small. I'm hoping you don't have to switch between the two often. >>;

Well pardon me for not having a list of changed features at my beck and call 24/7 when the video presented to provide evidence of these led to my simplification of the product. Really now I ask a sincere question and that's the reply? There are many things I could say in response to that but will refrain from doing so simply on the assumption that you're a civil individual only giving into a bout of irrational temper.

Really all that video showed was a handheld machine like the DS with PSP level graphics and an analog stick. I know nothing about the machine except what little marketing I've seen so any differences that are not superficial will have to be explained.

With the game itself? My views on console jumping aside I actually do have one valid concern about the game at present (But DS an PSP are part of the same generation, and are within the two generation range I consider to be reasonable for a series to stick with a company): It's on a handheld.

Now I actually have valid reasoning for this. Anyone whose played the original MMLs should at least remember the basic control scheme. The handhelds this generation are about two shoulder buttons and one analog stick short of being able to operate with the same reliability. No second stick and no shoulder buttons means the lock-on or the camera/manual aiming is going to suffer.

Plus there's the fact that the DS's primary control is the stylus. I want to play MML with a stylus about as much as I want to play Starfox with a stylus.

Sure they probably will find some surprising way to circumvent these issues but immediately these concerns fill me with a small amount of apprehension.

So...basically it's PSP graphics with the stylus gameplay tacked on and supposedly the ability to project 3D images during gameplay? Honestly my eyes aren't really that great when it comes to picking out "graphical superiority" this generation so if I'm off base with this assumption you'll have to correct me.

Actually my "standards" have nothing to do with it. XD I'm perfectly fine with Nintendo as a company and with their products. The only thing stopping me from purchasing a DS is monetary problems and life expenses.

I'm not upset Nintendo has the product, I'm just irked and the unpredictability of what games go where this generation and more than slightly irked at myself for assuming certain titles that seemed steadfast Sony titles didn't roll over.

Because I count generations by Home Consoles rather than handhelds. And even if it's in "3D" it's still being marketed as DS, so pretty much the same handheld we're had since the original DS. Unless there's some major change to the console besides adding the 3D gimmick I don't see how this handheld is anymore of a "Generation Jump" than the DS to the DSi wasn't.

There's a bit of a difference between shifting a series at the start of a generation and in the middle of a generation. FFVII wasn't that big of an issue because it was early in the console's life cycle and basically said "Hey, we're Sony and we have Final Fantasy this generation. Keep that in mind before buying your console because if you want to play Final Fantasy you need to come with us."

I'm sure there might've been a difference if FF VII was kept under total wraps until halfway through the life cycles of the systems only to be sprung only after most consumers had bought their console of choice.


Honestly I'm not in 100% agreement with that. Was PS2 by far the more impressive of the three consoles? Yes. But despite being a PS2 owner there were plenty of titles on the Gamecube and the Xbox that made me look over and go "Wow...I wish I had that instead right now." from time to time. You can have console diversity without taking the titles of Game Adventure's 1-5 and tossing them one at a time into random hats and deciding "Whichever hat they land in is the system we'll publish on!" ala Kingdom Hearts.

Funny, I never said anywhere that I wanted "everything on one console". I said that I desired a clear cut console identity for game series so that I know what I'm getting into when I buy a console. Nintendo can have it's long line of great titles, so can Sony, so can Microsoft. Hell so can Apple. I honestly don't care who gets it so long as it stays in place for the duration of the generation or two. The PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era was a great example of this and all three did well enough that I fail to see how "monopolistic" could apply to the scenario at all.

Actually you're just proving my point. During the NES era Megaman was a Nintendo-Only thing. You didn't have to buy every console on the market just in case Megaman 5 went somewhere different than Megaman 4. Not to mention I don't lump all the Megaman games under one "brand". For example during the PSOne era one could always count on Megaman X sequels being on PSOne while you could like wise count on numerical sequels to Megaman Battlenet Work being a Nintendo thing. The two never really jumped sides with the exception of Megaman Command Mission, but that was eventually brought to both sides of the pond.

:-P I said "almost". I was using hyperbole to emphasize my point that all this console jumping nonsense is eventually going to drive the customers away from franchises they've long respected and adored. If you take morals out of the equation you're left with a simple question:

"Why the hell are they expecting me to pay approximately $1140 + tax just for the chance to play five games in a series where no more than 5 years ago I would only have to pay $300 for a guarantee to play my favorite game series? Especially when I can just get it for free from questionable sources?"

Piracy isn't something to be supported I'll say right now. But with so many games series spreading their sequential titles out across multiple platforms they aren't making a very strong case to support their businesses.


This isn't about just Megaman. There are plenty of other titles pulling this nonsense these days. Hell look at another game series from the PSOne era that's actually doing it right. Parasite Eve. We've known since PE2 that the potential for a sequel was out there and for many years we waited. Low and behold here it is for PSP, not a console product but still a Sony product. Now you have Megaman Legends jumping ship. It's like Kingdom Hearts set the example and for some reason everyone and their dog wants to ride the same trick pony. The horse's legs have to give out sometime.

Oh look. Another game series I loved that has unpredictably jumped companies after being part of a franchise that was pretty much a Sony controlled deal...I raise the bird to you Capcom. I raise the bird as high as I can. Seriously this generation of gaming's console jumping tactic almost presents a valid argument for piracy. I miss the days where if you wanted to play a game serious you could always rely on it coming out on a specific console for the duration of it's lifespan (not counting remakes and ports). Now if you want to play the follow ups to your favorite game series you need to own every console from every company as you have no idea if it's going to be Console or Handheld (points to Valkyria Chronicles). Or Sony or Nintendo or Microsoft.

Seriously...it's bull crap. I'm just waiting for the day the industry takes the next dosage of stupid pills and tries something like releasing Fable IV on the Apple Iphone or Microsoft coming out with a handheld and Final Fantasy XV being exclusive to it.

Edit: Damn...that's the first time I've been irked so badly that my sense of grammar was entirely shot. XD *cleans the post up*

Finally got around to watching the trailer. It "almost" makes me regret not getting a PS3 again. It's interesting but honestly I'll just watch Youtube for the highlights. After 3 games Disgaea's going to have to do something really major to impress me. That and now that I'm no longer in school I really don't have the endless hours required to grind on such a game for all the story tidbits. Honestly I wish they'd focus on the classes then on the combat gimmicks like Magi-Change (or whatever the proper name is for turning monsters into weapons) or tower acrobatics. It feels like they're focusing more on the things you'll never really "need" to use in the game and ignoring the core elements over the past 3 installments. (I've never had to do anything more complicated than basic tossing to progress in the games.)

Something like "Two New and Unique Human Classes!" would interest me far more than "We made our monster (weapons) grow! And you can hold two of them!".