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961  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 12, 2011, 12:11:48 AM
 
The hymnos was barely touched, I was a bit blue about that - but otherwise, the music in the game blows ...

Neptunia is getting sacked for a lot of the tasteless foolery and "humour" in the game and otaku's are furious... but unless you're a fan of that shit, what's there to like...?

Highlighting the two statements I found odd.

-Really? How does it "blow" I gave a fair portion of the tracks a listen (I know it wasn't a complete list because there are some battle themes missing) and it seemed par for the course for an AT game. Heck the music was far more pleasant to listen to than say...Fable 3 or Fallout NV for example. Granted I'm hearing these tunes out of context and at my own leisure without unwanted looping but I can't think of even a single track that entered "blows" territory. Even the strange little EP_NOVA.

-Is that game really setting off the "jaded" alarm that badly for people? ._. Neither me or my wife are huge anime people anymore. There's like...2-3 shows in our collection of DVDs at any given time and neither of us have watched anything from about 2002 out. Neptunia's self-aware parody humor has been rather enjoyable to listen to and she actually prefers I wait to play til she's home just so she can watch. Neither of us really fit into the modern otaku context and we find the game just fine. Nothing "OMG write home!" about but nothing that merits the ragging it seems to get.
962  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 12, 2011, 12:01:02 AM
._.; Yeesh, away for an evening and apparently I miss the flame fest of the century. My sympathies to the reviewer. ^^;
963  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 11, 2011, 05:35:52 PM
They even fixed AT1 by having Jacqli (god I hate typing that) say that Lyner is a legendary diver who cleared 3 girls .

A normal diver can go to lvl 5.
A good diver can clear his partner.

Lol, Jacqli's just lying to preserve his pride. XD Think about how extremely dense Lyner was. I'd say it's more like 3 girls cleared him.
*part joking-part serious*
964  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 11, 2011, 04:10:51 PM
Ah crap. XD Oh well, maybe this time I'll actually bother with multiple save slots for a change instead of trying to retread the whole game. Should be fun to see what sort of Cosmosphere antics are pulled this time though. They're usually quite amusing; well...not counting that weird Cloche-Luca only Cosmosphere thing in AT2. ~.~;
965  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 11, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
Huh, so basically a New Game+ only you don't have to hop back through the whole game to see the new ending (well, unless you want a different Main x Girl ending I assume). Doesn't sound too bad.

Although now that I'm starting to have nostalgia trips about the other two games I have to ask: Are Cosmospheres still locked off at a certain level if you decide to 'focus" on a specific character ending like AT2 (I hated that so much. XP ) or have they opened it back up so you can full-play everyone's Cosmosphere in one go like the original AT?
966  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 11, 2011, 03:22:07 PM
Ahhh, VAs; should've known. XD

Are we talking "Don't kill even one party member by accident"-Disgaea tough (not that hard) or are we talking "OMG you missed that one conversation on the landmass that sank irrevocably about 3 hours ago so restart or take your "meh" ending"-AT2 tough (how the hell could you do that to me game!)?

For the "God awful" scale I'd probably use Valkyrie Profile as reference.
967  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 11, 2011, 02:58:33 PM
The overall plot is weak.  The games you listed figured out ways to make it feel fresh.  There are unique character relationships, which is its saving grace, but as far as the overall plot goes - it's dull and unimpressive.  I was extremely bored with it.  

EDIT:  I just want to say even setting aside the cliches, the plot isn't all that entertaining.  

Either the game is awful or the review is harsh. Can't say until I play it though.
68% does mean a broken game. That's a D+

Ironic statement; considering Ar Tonelico II literally was a broken game (Game crashing bug near last boss you couldn't avoid unless winning within X turns) and it scored 81%. XD
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Y'know I'm actually really looking forward to this game now that I realized something in the review. If my front liners are going to do to jack squat for damage, and if I'm only going to be able to take up the Reyvatiel 2 or 3 stages depending on the costume to avoid the awkward underwear scenes then this game might be the first Ar Tonelico that's actually a "challenge" in combat.
968  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 11, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
What it provides is a chiche; all three of the aforementioned titles provide some form of cliche in them, but they are overlaid with more impressive writing and characters.  I can't say the same for AT3.

Isn't that basically what anything NIS/NISA or Gust touches is all about? I mean from Disgaea all the way up to Hyper Dimension Neptunia I've always gotten the impression that their stories are all "self-aware" cliches to one degree or another; only instead of trying to take themselves seriously they simply break the 4th wall or do something absurd in order to provide a fun little ride along the way.

It's kind of a "you should expect this" at this point y'know? Buying a NIS/NISA or Gust game and judging it for having over the top ye-olde-cliche is like judging a Michael Bay moving for having too many explosions and jokes about big steel balls. What else could you have possibly expected? XD

I hear you that it's expected and that these games fill a niche - that's what NISA does, they publish games to a specific niche - the type of person that's probably been in /h/ on 4chan at least once.  That being said, having seen some of AT3 as Kimberley reviewed it, it's more than even I would have bargained for.

Heh, oddly I've never been on either; then again that's probably why I cannot detect the things that people complain about in AT2. XD I guess there are some advantages to having a skull denser than lead.

I can believe that the series is degraded though; and I have no doubts it won't be as good as the prior two. If I could remember the specific date/time this happened I wouldn't be surprised if this "spike" in more blatant innuendo is a sort of "rebellion" on the part of the game writers against the tougher laws regarding H-material recently pushed through in Japan (basically toeing the line like Hollywood does all the time to see what crap they can get away with). If nothing else it should be worth a play just for the music from what I've been hearing on Youtube. (It amazes me this only got an 83% percent in sound when it has some of the most gorgeous Hymnos tunes yet).
969  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 11, 2011, 02:40:38 PM
What it provides is a chiche; all three of the aforementioned titles provide some form of cliche in them, but they are overlaid with more impressive writing and characters.  I can't say the same for AT3.

Isn't that basically what anything NIS/NISA or Gust touches is all about? I mean from Disgaea all the way up to Hyper Dimension Neptunia I've always gotten the impression that their stories are all "self-aware" cliches to one degree or another; only instead of trying to take themselves seriously they simply break the 4th wall or do something absurd in order to provide a fun little ride along the way.

It's kind of a "you should expect this" at this point y'know? Buying a NIS/NISA or Gust game and judging it for having over the top ye-olde-cliche is like judging a Michael Bay moving for having too many explosions and jokes about big steel balls. What else could you have possibly expected? XD
970  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 11, 2011, 12:19:09 PM
Well now that the review's out I don't feel bad about reserving it. I'm not jaded enough yet to be annoyed by JRPG plot conventions, stripping is optional, and having been raised on text-based games/old Macs I find any graphic that's not black and white dots to be satisfactory. XD Looks like another average game for the collection.
971  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Worst RPGS on: March 03, 2011, 05:01:02 PM
Who still buys official strategy guides?  Assuming you want to resort to a guide at all (which I try to do as little as possible) online guides are better and free.


There are some exceptions. For instance the Disgaea series printed guides have been leaps and bounds compared to anything put online.
972  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: March 03, 2011, 08:56:18 AM
I'm probably going to pick it up if I can manage to swing the console this weekend, as the vids I've seen of the combat system look decent and even if the game fails there's always D4 and Catherine coming this summer that will have made the console worth it.
973  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: February 25, 2011, 07:21:09 AM
So by more than three are we talking actual "ending-able" Reyvatiels complete with cosmospheres or are we takling "sorta Reyvatiels but not really Reyvatiels" like AT2's Cocona?

Heh, I actually remember the games by their lore. That's literally the only thing still keeping me on the fence about this game because it contains, from what I've been hearing, practically everything I despise about modern writing. (Overt sexual overtones, pointless nudity/near-nudity, ect.) I mean Aurica's scene was kinda bad but as awkward as it was to sit through it was kinda sweet and served a purpose.

I guess the big kicker for if I buy this or not comes down to the following: How is the battle system?

Personally I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of live action battle systems. The Tales of - battles systems were always dry and boring to me, and Star Ocean's never really struck me as fun until SO4; but that quickly devolved about half way through the game when the charms of the blindside animations wore off. Seeing the series go from the nice, creative timing system in AT2 to a "live action" format is making me more than slightly cautious. Is there anything unique/creative about this battle system or is it a cut/paste of all the other live action RPG battle systems out there?

Edit: After watching some gameplay vids (or more accurately boss battle vids) two questions come to mind.

1. Are the clothing strip sequences skippable? Because in one vid it looked like you were able to speed through them without detailed cutscenes (unlike another earlier boss fight; which hurt my soul to watch) but I cannot tell if that was video editing or not.

2. Is it possible to win battles without having to "upgrade" your Reyvatiel to the point of nakedness? Or does that happen automatically when your song charge hits certain points?
974  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ar tonelico 3 coming to the PS3 January 2010 on: February 24, 2011, 06:34:39 PM
So now that the preview is up two things spring to mind.

1. I took a peek at the gallery...worst female designs yet. Purple hair is just a rehash of Luca and the other girl is so...so...plain. :-/ Which isn't a crime of itself but considering how gorgeously elaborate the character designs have been up until now it's a real negative. Is there a third Reyvatiel later on and if so is her design any better?

2. So the innuendo is worse than ever huh? Does it manage to be worse than Aurica's Life Extension scene? If so...how? Just...how?
975  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy XI - Journal! on: February 23, 2011, 01:10:21 AM
Awesome, glad to hear I didn't entirely screw myself over. XD I had to pick Mithra because I usually like higher Agi-types in RPG. I'm about to start some serious grinding tonight to see if I can make some progress (and to get used to the controls). My character name on Leviathan is Oseye.
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