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766  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: October 31, 2010, 08:19:06 AM
I'll say the opposite. I started with P3 but if I had started with Strange Journey I don't know if I'd look forward to the next installment.
Nocturne is a great game but too hard and if you're not prepared for this kind of punishing it can be too much to take.
If you don't want to recommend Persona to a beginner I'd go with Digital Devil Saga. While I played only a little of it it feels much more manageable, I don't know.
767  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs for beginners on: October 31, 2010, 08:13:39 AM
I loved the juction system. I made possible to give some elements to your attacks and defense unlike all other games and Triple Triad (the card game) was simply amazing! But of course, you have to get a grip of the rules.
768  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs for beginners on: October 31, 2010, 07:56:16 AM
After X-2 it's pretty much hit or miss (or a total miss if it's FFXIV).

I liked XIII but looking back at it, I don't think it's as awesome as my first impression made it seem to be.

XII was a mixed bag, the world was good to explore, so much detail to everything, but this game is a total grind, the combat gets so repetitive that you don't even have to press a single button and the characters most of the time were worthless. That is okay as in FFVI it happens a lot and the game was good but the main character is so worthless and annoying you know something is wrong. By the end of the game (or after half of it), you only needed As, Balthier and Basch and the other three you could just throw away because they don't matter anymore.

Even liking XIII I ahve to agree the game is so streamlined, even after post game that it isn't even funny. I do enjoy not convoluted path to move the story and while XIII's overdoing of it didn't annoy me I can totally understand why it gets to so many people. But the worst is that you have a bunch of crystalium paths to choose but they are most the same and you actually don't choose much.

In FFX it's streamlined in the beginning, probably so you don't screw it up too bad, but after midway through the game, you could make Tidus a black mage like Lulu if you wanted to.

I think it won't take much for us to see a game like Shin Megami Tensei dethrone Final Fantasy (and I do love both) but the thing with Atlus is that they make good games for them to be good, not to cater a FPS market.

I mean, very few FPS can be sold to us, RPG fans as if they were RPGs. On the top of my head Bioshock and Borderlands. Fallout 3 and Elder Scrolls were always RPG and even though in First person view they were never shooters, even Fallout 3 people used VATS more than anything.

My point, why the hell would Squenix try to make FFs go after FPS fans. Next time they might as well make it a side scroller and go after the Mario crowd. Or make a story about a car racing event and go after Gran Turismo fans.

I think the only difference in popularity of FF and the rest is chance. Just like Dragon Quest is bigger in Japan.
Probably the fact that Sony published FFVII helped a lot to make it known.
769  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Persona 2 IS Remake on: October 29, 2010, 11:48:25 AM
If you guys are going to keep making a new thread everytime something note worthy comes out then there is no reason to have a Megami Tensei thread. In fact I think the moderators should sticky the Megami Tensei thread to cut down on potential thread redundancy. But that's just my opinion.

It is a new game, therefore it deserves an official thread. It's easier to find information specifically for this game here than to dig through unrelated discussions in the Megami Tensei thread.
Well I'm not going to make a fuss about it. You guys can do whatever you want. I just think making new Megami Tensei related threads is unnecessary.

I'm with you. We seem to be crating too many threads these days. It's like "Yoichi Wada sneezed" and we create a new thread.
Example, The new Phoenix Wright vs Professor Layton, instead of creating a new thread for it, we could've just renamed the one about "Capcom and Level 5 cooperation".

Anyway, I liked the opening. I think it's great to see they redone the artwork, because the one in P1 did feel a little dated. If it releases in PSN I think I might try the Jap version, especially to see if I can keep up with it but it depends on how much voice acting there is.
770  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: October 26, 2010, 09:04:10 PM
When I heard the news of Innocent Sin I JIZZED IN MY PANTS!

Guys, the good news about this, not only that this is a great game is that it's Atlus. It's not Namco or Square-Enix, if it's Atlus we can be sure they'll localize. It doesn't have vocie acting,and it will probably be released on PSN so coasts will be low for a localization. I say I'm positive this will be localized!

Oh, and just for the sake of confusion, Innocent Sin is the first one, right ? Then comes Eternal Punishment, right ?
771  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs for beginners on: October 26, 2010, 08:22:10 AM
Be warned that Suikoden games are not for everyone. I was already playing tons of RPGs and heard about the Suikoden series and that they were good. So I got Suikoden III and I hated every little thing in it. I even lent it to my cousin to see if he would find something to like about it or the problem was with me and we both hated it.

If I were you I'd go with hell_snake's recommendation of FFX, Tales of the Abyss and Dragon Quest VIII. They are enjoyable and very pick up and play.
772  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs for beginners on: October 25, 2010, 10:10:07 PM
I really cannot wait to dive in the world of RPGs. No more pricks, no more gold sellers, no more nerfing down my precious toon. Nothing but quality story and gameplay.

You have pretty much simplified all my thought about most MMOs I've tried in two lines of text!
The lack of story in MMOs was always a downside for me. Also the fact that play like a manic the people you are used to playing with start bitching.

As a suggestion for a PS2 title that might be good for a console RPG newcomer I'd recommend Tales of the Abyss. I have to confess the first "tales of" game I played was Vesperia, and after that I played about 10 hours of Abyss and it's really fun too.

Oh, and before lots of recommendations start popping at a faster pace than you can read, I assume your pc can play WoW. Would you say it can run Fallout 3 or Mass Effect 2, because they're really good.
If it doesn't, before you buy a ps2, one of my favorite games of all time, is able to run on pretty much any pc these days and on steam it's really cheap: Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic. In short, one of the best games and story I have ever see. And since you've been playing wow the western interface may be more familiar to you.
773  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Anyone planning to pick up Atelier Rorona? on: October 22, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Thanks for the tips, I'll keep them in mind.
I just tracked my game and it should arrive next week!
From reading and all I good thing I could find was to use that teleport item to get out of dungeons as you don't use the time needed to get back to the workshop, so you use only half the time.
774  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: October 22, 2010, 04:34:32 PM
Come on man, just share your opinion. This is just the internet one time or another you're gonna get trolled, so who cares ?
Especially when you're not arguing about some pointless thing with someone, you're just expressing your opinion. There's a certain someone here on the forums who goes rampage about anyone who likes FFXIII and I did like the game. I among some other have managed to get hit by his "collateral damage", but do you think I care about this ? NO. I don't give a rat's ass and just move on to the next topic. Simple as that.
775  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: My tastes in RPG's have really changed. on: October 21, 2010, 10:54:29 AM
Do you think Nier is better than Vesperia and Dragon Age ? I'm not asking this to piss you off or anything is that I'm sincerely thinking of giving Nier a chance, but that shallow hack n' slash nature of it kind of pushes me away. The story I know people are saying it's great but every video I see of it the impression I have is that all you have to do is press the attack button non-stop. Not to mention that those enemies between bosses look boring and lifeless as hell.

In youtube I've watched up to the part where you meet "Kaine" for the first time. Beside she cursing and something interesting from Grimoire Vice sometimes I still haven't seem much on it.

Back to RPG tastes, I'm in a mood now that I don't want anything too challenging, so if I'll play Dragon Age or Fallout I'll use a gold trick or something, or like just recently I ordered Atelier Rorona which is much easier than most RPGs, since when you die, you just go back home, you don't really die. Maybe when I get full of it and get eager for some challenge I'll give Demon's Souls another shot.
Both Persona 3 and 4 are games that I took almost an year to finish but enjoyed each moment of it. I promised myself I'd never finish a game just for the sake of finishing it, if I'll play it, I must have fun while doing so.
776  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Anyone planning to pick up Atelier Rorona? on: October 21, 2010, 09:21:04 AM
Mine is yet to arrive. The shipping from Hong Kong is usually fast to come here, but the clearance of customs takes a while.
The thing that makes me pissed for owing them legally is having to wait so much to actually get the game. For example, I had to mod my Wii because is is japanese, so it's not region locked anymore, and when I buy a game on it while I wait I'll go and burn a back so I can play right away, instead of waiting ages for it to arrive.

Well, finally finished my first playthrough.  Got 100% popularity and 100 friendship level with every character.  I really didn't think it was that hard.  Did take a lot of time in the real life time, though.  Much of which was spent doing nothing by managing my inventory...

As I planned I set it up so that my performance on the last assignment will determine my ending, so I just have to replay the last 3 months (and not work very hard at it...) to get the 'good' ending (got 'true' my first time).  Unfortunately, I can't get 'normal' or 'bad' because it seems no matter what I do my popularity won't drop.  It would naturally fluctuate back when I was still building it up (seems to drop if you don't do any jobs for a while), but it seems that once it hits the magic 100 it's locked in.  There's nothing you can do to make people dislike you after that.

You did all that in your first playthrough ? Wow!
Would you care for some tips ?
Actually I have a question too, you know that girl who stays next to Stern taking quests ? Is she the one that raises your popularity ?
777  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Etrian Odyssey on: October 21, 2010, 08:48:30 AM
So this game is kind of frustrating to the bones. I do enjoy some challenge but one hit ko is too much for me.
A shame because it does looks like it has some charm.

The games are meant more to appeal to people who used to have to draw their own maps for games ANYWAY.  I have fond memories of mapping out dungeons in old NES/SNES RPG's, so I'm pretty much the prime target group for this game.

From this I'm the exact opposite hehe, if I ever felt like I needed to draw a map or anything that is way too complex, I'd look for a guide right away. Xenogears comes to mind! I was so pissed with some dungeons in that game that after I spent so much time on one, I picked up a guide at a store (which later I found out was a one to one translated copy of a faq in gamefaqs) and played half of the game with it.
778  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: October 20, 2010, 09:17:10 PM
The encounter rate in P1 is overkill and the battle take way too long for a rate this high. Sure Strange Journey is high by today's standards or even Dragon Quest but at least in those most battles are over in a flash, plus you can even use an automated battle. Sadly enough there are some that say the story in P1 isn't that great either, unlike P2 which in less then 30 min in is already interesting and bu the end it only gets better.

I'd go with CDFN suggestion and start with Persona 3. But hey, maybe you could play it on the PSP if you have trouble finding it not to mention that you can control your party on the PSP unlike the PS2 version and that can save a lot of frustration.

I have yet to play DDS myself, I got DDS1 but I'm not having much time to play it, so I'm putting it on hold. Hell, I've waited more than 5 years to find out about it, another months won't hurt.
779  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Etrian Odyssey on: October 20, 2010, 09:10:05 PM
Rise from your grave! (as in Altered Beast)

Anyway, the new Etrian Odyssey III has just been released. If I'm not mistaken some people were interested in it and there was even a thread for the announcement of it but I found this one would be better to dig up since it could cover all three games.

I must say I was interested in this game when I first heard about it but when I found out that you have to draw yourself the maps for the dungeons I was instantly pushed away. I was already bored with the dungeons from SMT Strange Journey and they are automatic, let alone draw everything and make little notes.

Still, I'd like to know if anyone has seen it, played, any kind of first impressions.
780  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Professor Vs. Gyakuten Saiban (Layton Vs. Ace Attorney) announced for the 3DS on: October 19, 2010, 02:32:18 PM
I was in doubt of getting a 3DS right away, but the more I see it the more I want it. And even though I don't care for any of the remakes, Professor Layton, Phoenix Wright and Resident Evil are reason enough for me to buy it.

But I hope they release the remaining Professor Layton games yet to be localized for the DS instead of the 3DS (like Capcom did with the Phoenix Wright games, as the first 3 ones were GBA games and for us only DS games).
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