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1  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: December 09, 2014, 09:41:06 AM
I certainly have no objection to physical media. I agree it is a good thing that both types continue to exist - more options are better for the consumer. In the end for me it is really about price and convenience, but I'm sure Lard also has excellent reasons to prefer physical media and I know we've got a lot of collectors here that certainly still prefer it.
2  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: December 08, 2014, 11:03:57 PM
Also I do realize there is a big distinction between trading a gift game on steam and actually being able to trade used games - they are basically not the same at all so it is probably disingenuous of me to bring that into the equation since that is basically swapping gifts on Steam, not lending a game. Point taken there.

EDIT: Doesn't Green Man Gaming allow trading of digital content on their platform? I've never used it but I believe they allow it through their client. I'm unfamiliar with how they enforce that though.
3  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: December 08, 2014, 10:59:27 PM
I trade digital games with my friends regularly.

Also since my wife and I share accounts for books, music, and movies when we make a purchase we can both use it right away. This is great for new books we both want to read - we only have to pay for one copy. It's also neat if she buys a song/album at work - I can listen to it right away at work also.

I do agree there is progress to be made to legally protect certain consumer rights, but overall my experience with digital has been nothing but positive and has saved me a lot of money.
4  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: December 08, 2014, 10:24:52 PM
The no ownership thing is pretty bullshit. PC is an universal platform with eternal backwards compatibility. Just because something is digital, it doesn't mean you don't own it.

Except digital platforms are specifically designed so you don't own your content - Steam, Netflix, itunes, pick whichever one you want.can

You can think what you want, but don't call something bullshit when it isn't.


I've basically gone digital with everything it is possible for me to go digital with - books, music, games

And people like you are the reason I can't have nice things. I don't even get a choice of what format I want to buy.

Just digital or nothing - and you are making it possible. Thanks a lot.


I dunno, I feel like I have a lot of nice things on lots of different devices now wherever I go.
5  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: December 08, 2014, 04:26:38 PM
I've basically gone digital with everything it is possible for me to go digital with - books, music, games, etc not just because of all the reasons listed above, but:

1) I have regularly purchased things twice or even three times just because I've lost a thing in a move, lent it to somebody, etc - not as much of a concern with digital
2) I hate clutter, I'm basically an anti hoarder and will throw things out even if I might need them simply because I hate having stuff lying around the house

I'm actually really interested to hear what the downsides are though.
6  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: December 03, 2014, 05:09:00 PM
Dealing with people is a choice you make to engage with them. Owning a PC doesn't mean you have to deal with idiots. I reply here because it is a choice to engage with a thoughtful gaming community. The rest I dutifully ignore.
7  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: December 03, 2014, 03:59:27 PM
I don't know why this is a debate.

I already answered that question. ~_~

The Misconception: You prefer the things you own over the things you donít because you made rational choices when we bought them.

The Truth: You prefer the things you own because you rationalize your past choices to protect your sense of self.

http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/05/19/fanboyism-and-brand-loyalty/
8  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: December 01, 2014, 10:08:10 PM
I learned something today.
9  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast (Random Encounter) Thread on: December 01, 2014, 03:45:06 PM
Micro transactions aren't the next generation of games, they are already here. They've been here for a while. They are some of the most commercially successful games.

That doesn't mean you need to play any of them. If anything the market for quality, inexpensive games has improved at the same time as micro nonsense (I don't think the two have a causal relationship, just that it is one new pricing structure out of many we've seen over the last few years in gaming).

To me the micro transaction thing is an immediate turnoff because I EXPECT that the game will be terrible BECAUSE OF the presence of micro transactions - i.e. the gameplay will be designed to extract money from me, not provide me with a quality gameplay experience.

But there are instances where the game can be quality and still survive on microtransactions. Path of Exile immediately comes to mind.

I don't have a problem with a different model for charging for your game EXCEPT insofar as it influences the design of the game itself in negative ways (the real money auction house in Diablo III, for example, which clearly impacted major design decisions in the original PC version).

What I'm getting at here is I think it is a mistake to just assume micro transactions as a thing are AUTOMATICALLY anti consumer. Hearthstone is an excellent example - if you have a limited budget, Hearthstone is something you can absolutely enjoy for free (I do!) without ever spending money on, but is supported entirely by players who want to spend that money.

If anything, for - whatever you call us, "old school", "core" - whatever we are as gamers that are into this medium enough to parlay about it on a message board - if anything the presence of microtransactions makes it HARDER to convince us that your game is worth playing precisely because the notion itself has become associated with "paying for a cooldown" crap. That does not mean though that it is the only way to implement it and still make money.

So I'm not against it as a concept, I just don't like crummy, cynical game design. And often the two go hand in hand, but it is almost certainly not fair to call micro transactions universally anti consumer. I just don't think that is the case.

If you had told me a game of Path of Exile or Hearthstone's quality would EVER exist and be free to play 10 years ago, I would have said you were completely insane. But due to creative pricing LIKE micro transactions, they really are.

EDIT - Also I did not know there was even a THING where Steam AS A PLATFORM was something people got upset about. Clearly I am out of touch (I certainly have heard arguments/complaints about Steam as a business model).
10  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Movies that make you cry on: November 26, 2014, 01:20:35 PM
Green Mile is so notorious in my house that one Saturday morning I went downstairs bright and early, around 7 AM (as is my wont) and was flipping through the channels to see if anything good was on. Landed on Green Mile. By around 8 AM I guess I must have pretty audibly sobbed as my wife suddenly yelled down the stairs "IS EVERYTHING OKAY? ARE YOU WATCHING GREEN MILE?!?!?!"
11  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Movies that make you cry on: November 26, 2014, 07:47:06 AM
Green Mile destroys me.

Also The Fountain.
12  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Most Favourite Gaming Moments~! on: November 20, 2014, 12:30:15 PM
- The first time I logged into a dial up BBS to play Legend of the Red Dragon and was informed that another player had killed me.
- The time my buddy and I spent ALL DAY trying to get Doom deathmatch to work over dial up modem, hilariously with both our parents constantly picking up the phone as we continued to try to tweak the modem settings. When we finally got it working about 7 hours later, seeing him running around on my screen and then shooting at him was crazy.
- The first time in World of Warcraft I saw Ironforge.
- The ending of To The Moon, which still leaves me sobbing with joy and wonder every time I even hear the music.
13  Site Related & More / RPGFan: The Site / Re: Reviews are sometimes inaccurate on: November 12, 2014, 09:25:48 PM
http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Kentucky_Route_Zero/index3.html

I still think I gave it the correct score.
14  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs and the horrible path they follow on: November 12, 2014, 01:58:04 PM
You are right as usual Glass, I probably picked the worst place to start a fight about RPGs. But probably my biggest disappointment was that instead of getting information of why I am wrong and what there is to like in these games. I got the problem is just me and my crazyness instead of people actually defending the games individually.  I guess its just a common tactic though if you can't prove someone wrong, just prove they are wrong as a person. Its a pretty brilliant tactic really because of that I got heated and lost my composure so everything I said became discredited.

I would suggest rather that liking/not liking a thing, particularly a game, is subjective. There is no argument to win here.

For example, I think Diablo 3 is absolutely terrible. Just the worst. I vastly prefer Torchlight 2. I could come up with a litany of reasons why I think that.

Those reasons explain why I prefer Torchlight 2, and some of them may even be facts. But they do not lead to a definitive truth of any kind that Torchlight 2 is BETTER than Diablo 3. More importantly, they don't lead to a definitive truth of any kind that should suggest it is WRONG to enjoy Diablo 3 more than Torchlight 2.

We're all happy to recommend games that we have enjoyed and we also love discussing why we like/don't like them. But I think for the most part we as a community are respectful and mindful of the fact that these are tastes and opinions - not dogma.

I was not suggesting that you are a bad person. I was merely suggesting that if you find you don't like ANY games right now, that likely speaks to one of two possibilities:

1) You're looking for/placing more value on things that are wrong with the games you play than things that are right, or
2) RPGs just aren't your thing

I found 2 to be more likely than 1 since you seem like a nice person. I don't think anybody in here was suggesting you are "the bad guy" - at least I didn't read any of the replies that way.

If you really just want to discuss the aspects of certain games you like/don't like, I think you've definitely come to the right place!
15  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs and the horrible path they follow on: November 11, 2014, 12:38:51 PM
Good points also made on here about how nostalgia can be a powerful and frankly deceptive thing - the feeling I got of a new game when I was a teenager is not going to often occur now that I'm 36. So much about the experience of even acquiring the game is different.
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