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856  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Maybe it's the weed - but I find this horribly amusing... on: August 01, 2010, 04:52:28 AM
I'm not sure who you mean by most people, can you elaborate?

Well I'm from Australia so I suppose my "most people" would be the Australian population. I'm probably in fairly safe territory to go out on a limb and say the same is true for the USA, England and other similar nations. Can't speak for elsewhere.
857  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Maybe it's the weed - but I find this horribly amusing... on: August 01, 2010, 04:49:06 AM
There's a difference between lacking detailed knowledge of a religion and understanding the conceptual basis for the ideals it carries. Most monotheistic religions in particular have quite similar structure, but varying stories and rules.

You're right. But most people don't even have the basis, from what I've seen anyway. Fox's comment came across to me as a generalisation about people and I would generally say that people really don't understand it at all.
858  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Maybe it's the weed - but I find this horribly amusing... on: August 01, 2010, 04:33:35 AM
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But my point of view is representative of thousands of people out there and if we can take the effort to understand Godless ideas, then some effort should be taken to understand ours.

There's a rather glaring logical flaw here. You assume other people don't understand your views.

They do. They understand them just find. They just think your views are wrong.

In my experience, they don't. You already stated in your post you don't know much about Islam, and it's safe to say the same for most people. I don't either. But I think it's safe to assume that whilst most people have some sort of basic understanding about religious beliefs they don't know many specific details. If they don't truly understand a religion then it's hard to understand a person's views based on them.

I wouldn't consider myself a Christian (though I do hold some of their ideals), but have been brought up as one since I was born. I went to church every week for thirteen years and attended a Christian school. It was very rare to come across anyone who actually truly understood the views of a Christian person when talking about religion. Lots of people had a basic understanding but didn't really get it, but they certainly thought they did. I'm not saying this is the case for you, Fox, I'm just making a general observation about people.

Edit: And just to throw my two cents in here...

And if you DO think someone deserves to go to hell for what they do, isn't at least some degree of hate towards them implicit?

Hate is a very strong word. I struggle to think of anyone or anything I ever truly hated in my life. From a Christian view it is certainly possible to be against homosexual practises, but not hate someone and think they deserve to go to hell. That's for God to judge. I'd also just like to point out that just because someone is homosexual does not necessarily mean they would go to hell. The Bible is pretty clear that no matter who you are or what you've done that, if you accept Jesus, you can be accepted into the Kingdom of God. My old boss at work was both gay and a Christian.
859  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: July 31, 2010, 02:35:59 AM
Good stuff.

I hope they just keep brining out the new stuff over here first before doing translations for older titles.
860  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Does anyone actually like random battles? on: July 30, 2010, 07:53:31 PM
Of course if you can't avoid them it's pointless.

Not necessarily. As long as you can avoid them sometimes (even if not all the time) I bet it would still seem less annoying as you played.
861  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Does anyone actually like random battles? on: July 30, 2010, 07:12:06 PM
It may be something of a placebo for some, they know the enemy's there and they're going to get into a fight, and it's not something that just takes them by surprise.

Yes, that's very true too.
862  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Maybe it's the weed - but I find this horribly amusing... on: July 30, 2010, 07:09:50 PM
Ugh, I hate spiders. I have a borderline phobia of them. If I see one I grab the bug spray and kill them. I can't squash even the little ones without freaking out. It's not even because I'm scared of them being dangerous or anything, the way the look and walk just creeps me out.
863  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Maybe it's the weed - but I find this horribly amusing... on: July 30, 2010, 03:59:23 AM
I'm not saying that an entity couldn't have been what creates what we know. It's the absolutism in that belief that I take issue with. I'm saying that we don't know what is the source of creation in the universe, and as of now there's not enough evidence to point to a certainty of an entity being that source.

From a Christian perspective you'd argue the Bible is the only evidence you need. I assume Nuri would argue the same for the Quran.
864  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Maybe it's the weed - but I find this horribly amusing... on: July 30, 2010, 01:15:16 AM
Because by that point you're back in the realms of science because God's now either a natural process or you're trying to apply science to god or something.

If God exists then he either directly or indirectly created science. O.o
865  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: July 29, 2010, 09:23:03 PM
They also made the worst. I feel Symphonia has, overall, a much higher standard.
866  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed on: July 29, 2010, 08:21:30 PM
Is the new Tales game for the PS3 is being developed by Team Symphonia or Team Destiny?
And I feel bad for not having any current-gen home console. I really wish to get both PS3 and X360. So. Much. Games. I. Want.
Destiny did the last one, so I'm assuming that the new one will be done by Team Symphonia.

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Team Symphonia > Team Destiny
867  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Does anyone actually like random battles? on: July 29, 2010, 08:20:24 PM
I normally don't mind random battles but they're becoming increasingly irritating. Actually quite liked the visible enemy system in FFXII, it was fun.

Yes! Agreed! Although there was a whole bunch of stuff I didn't like about XII, I loved the battle system. LOVED IT.
868  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Does anyone actually like random battles? on: July 29, 2010, 09:01:49 AM
In an analogous situation, one of my least favorite mechanics is limited use or breakable weapons.  Yet, Hexyz Force had that and I really enjoyed the game.  Somehow, it made a detestable mechanic palatable, even delectable. 

Haha, did you ever play Riviera? Best weapons were destroyed in 10-15 turns. :P Except the Einherijar Weapons.
869  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Maybe it's the weed - but I find this horribly amusing... on: July 29, 2010, 08:45:57 AM
ZOMG. No, seriously, here come the zombies. <- Completely unrelated to the following post.

I hate reading these discussions (which is odd because I just read the topic), but it's all just silly. Not your points of view, of course. Those are perfectly valid. But why this is still ongoing? Everybody knows plain as day neither of you are going to convince the other of anything and you're just going around in circles.

You can't tell over the internet if Nuri hates something. Emotions are hard enough to read on the net as it is. Unless she says "I hate homosexuals", then you really can't assume she does just because she disapproves of their practises. I disapprove of my sister's boyfriend, but I don't hate him (weird example). I would have to agree you can disapprove of something without hating it. Speaking of weird examples...

(I think my other issue with Christianity is its insistence on cutting down perfectly good trees to make churches. I mean, look at it this way. According to Christian doctorine, god made trees*. Ergo they'd be far more perfect than anything a person could *build* out of them).

I hardly claim to be a religious expert, but isn't it entirely possible one of the reasons God created trees was for humans to use them to build things? They could certainly have been created not just for the ecosystem or for the beauty of nature, but also to be useful to us.

It's just that the evidence we do gather in all aspects of our universe do not point to that as a conclusion, so it can't be accepted logically.

I'm not sure that's really correct either. I mean, of course you can point out all the theories (key word) as to how the universe began, but until something is PROVEN on either side (which it may never be [I don't see how God could be proved until we die or Jesus comes back etc. (depending on your beliefs]), I don't think you can really suggest one side is more likely to be true than another. For sure, some of the scientific reasoning are entirely possible, perhaps even likely. But we still don't know for sure. And, even if we thought we did, I'd still be sceptical, personally. It's not like humans haven't been wrong before. I mean, if God is real as described then he can create the world however he wanted beyond anything we could imagine or dream.

Not to say I necessarily agree with Nuri totally either, but those things you said just kind of stood out to me is all.
870  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Does anyone actually like random battles? on: July 29, 2010, 02:50:05 AM
Is there any reason to technically *like* random battles?

That's why I started the topic! :)

I thought to myself, "Well, if most RPGs still have random battles, someone must like them, right?" Apparently not.
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