ZOMG. No, seriously, here come the zombies. <- Completely unrelated to the following post.
I hate reading these discussions (which is odd because I just read the topic), but it's all just silly. Not your points of view, of course. Those are perfectly valid. But why this is still ongoing? Everybody knows plain as day neither of you are going to convince the other of anything and you're just going around in circles.
You can't tell over the internet if Nuri hates something. Emotions are hard enough to read on the net as it is. Unless she says "I hate homosexuals", then you really can't assume she does just because she disapproves of their practises. I disapprove of my sister's boyfriend, but I don't hate him (weird example). I would have to agree you can disapprove of something without hating it. Speaking of weird examples...
(I think my other issue with Christianity is its insistence on cutting down perfectly good trees to make churches. I mean, look at it this way. According to Christian doctorine, god made trees*. Ergo they'd be far more perfect than anything a person could *build* out of them).
I hardly claim to be a religious expert, but isn't it entirely possible one of the reasons God created trees was for humans to use them to build things? They could certainly have been created not just for the ecosystem or for the beauty of nature, but also to be useful to us.
It's just that the evidence we do gather in all aspects of our universe do not point to that as a conclusion, so it can't be accepted logically.
I'm not sure that's really correct either. I mean, of course you can point out all the theories (key word) as to how the universe began, but until something is PROVEN on either side (which it may never be [I don't see how God could be proved until we die or Jesus comes back etc. (depending on your beliefs]), I don't think you can really suggest one side is more likely to be true than another. For sure, some of the scientific reasoning are entirely possible, perhaps even likely. But we still don't know for sure. And, even if we thought we did, I'd still be sceptical, personally. It's not like humans haven't been wrong before. I mean, if God is real as described then he can create the world however he wanted beyond anything we could imagine or dream.
Not to say I necessarily agree with Nuri totally either, but those things you said just kind of stood out to me is all.