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Subject: Persona 3: FES
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2986  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: July 29, 2009, 03:02:32 PM
Proves that I should have paid attention in class. I did let the MC sleep every once in a while in class in Persona 3, too. Oops.

On another note, for those who have played both, which did you like better: Digital Devil Saga 1 or 2? I've just started 1, am maybe an hour in, and I like it a lot. (I do have 2 sitting in the 'to play' pile, too. =P) Nice change of pace from some bouncy high school kids for sure.
2987  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: July 29, 2009, 02:10:44 PM
I BARELY started Digital Devil Saga 1. I love the look of this game. And the post apocalyptic atmosphere. And what the hell, my party just devoured their defeated enemies.

I'm going to love this game.
2988  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: July 28, 2009, 11:21:49 PM
It really is cool, actually. As is the first final boss design.

But still.. this game and I... must part ways soon.

or I'll go crazy.

Edit: Okay, I'm done.

Cheesy ending, but certainly happier all around than P3's. The conclusions, including the true ending, really are sort of messy like people said. I guess it could be worse, but at this point I'm really just glad it's over.
2989  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: July 28, 2009, 09:19:14 PM
HOLY CRAP WHY IN THE NINE CIRCLES OF HELL WON'T PERSONA 4 JUST *END*.

Why did I bother to go for the true ending, why.
2990  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Bayonetta on: July 28, 2009, 02:10:18 PM
DMC style anything always wins me over.
2991  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: July 28, 2009, 12:51:08 PM
I found that it was just the academic stat and how I answered the questions. Although in Persona 3, I found that if I didn't study lots I got more questions that I hadn't seen in the classroom scenes. I got a couple of those in P4, too. In other words, studying really did make writing the exams easier. =P
2992  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: July 28, 2009, 12:23:02 PM
A Persona 2 port/remake would be awesome. I don't care if it's EP, or IS, or both. Preferably both, alas we ain't that lucky.

As for S-links with multiple endings - in P4, do the S-links that can become serious relationships become different after you make that decision? Again, after only one playthrough I can't tell, and I ain't playing P4 again after I finish this lame True Ending business.

As for the, er, Velvet Room spoiler - well put.
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Granted, you COULD eventually, maybe find someone with such will and desire to save the world, but they wouldn't have that AND the ability that only he had to seal Nyx away.
2993  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: July 28, 2009, 02:44:10 AM
Person 4, never playing it again.

As for the true ending? This is retarded.
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The gas station attendant. really. REALLY?! Good grief.

Although I do find it cool that she's Izanami, and the Persona you start with was Izanagi.

The rest of it is stupid.

Oh hi, extra dungeon. No thanks Too bad I wanted to see how true the ending was.
2994  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: July 27, 2009, 11:45:18 PM
I would really love a direct sequel to P3/P4 with the characters from both games.

The starting point for the story could be:

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Elizabeth trying to save P3's MC. I thought it was really cool when Margareth revealed that her sister wasn't in the velvet room because she was trying to save the guy from P3, I would love to see that arc develop into a story for a new game eventually involving the most popular characters from both games with maybe a few new ones, maybe a new protagonist who would somehow get involved in the whole thing.
That's a neat idea. When does Margaret mention this, by the way? I'm not doubting you, since many people have told me this, I was just wondering if it's in the S-link since I never got it past level 2.
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It could work since P3 takes place in 2009 and P4 takes place in 2011, and P4 visits P3's area (Port Island) in which you go to the school, meet the principal and that weird teacher AND Chihiro, plus a reference to Mitsuru, so further proof 3/4 are in the same universe and all...
I still vote for a female lead. =P
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Mainly story and characters. I still think P4 is a great game, but while it's improvements are great (even though I was perfectly fine with P3's battle system, and found the automatic AI nearly useless in this game),
I didn't give P4's AI much of a chance, but it might have been so dumb that it pissed me off after like one battle. I found P3's AI to be pretty good, save for the final battle. Then again, I found the main character in P3 to be stronger than 4's, so maybe his supporting cast wasn't as badly needed.

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I think the story drags too much, and the conclusion left me disappointed (the normal good ending, that is).
I probably mentioned it in this thread already, but I agree, the story moved FAR too slowly in the beginning, and as of December 20th the conclusions THUS FAR have been a letdown.

As for Teddie, I have NO IDEA what to think of him.
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like having the Social Lins characters and your decisions affect the story and the characters and their interaction, to the point that you can actually mess up your relationships permanently.
Even while playing P3, I kept thinking of how I'd like to see some S-links have more tie-ins to the main story, including decisions you make. I BROKE my S-link with Mitsuru entirely at one point, but reset immediately after :P (I assume you have to start the link from thebeginning if that happens, but I wasn't willing to find out)
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No, it's best to stop a series short of that and pace themselves out so Persona can remain great and not be ruined for everyone. (etc)
Exactly. Which is why I say they should step away from Persona for a few years and revamp the system a little so they don't oversaturate us either way.
2995  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: July 27, 2009, 01:42:29 PM
Oh yeah, I know well this series hasn't had many female leads - which is why I think it would be a nice change-up. :)

I still want Persona 2, the prices on eBay are just retarded.
2996  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: July 27, 2009, 01:16:54 PM
Curious. In what way? Story, characters, gameplay, or which? Or do you mean overall?
I think there was a general consensus that Persona 4's story was weaker, but that the gameplay had some very welcome improvements. In my eyes, that's not a slight on Persona 4's story, really - it's just a very difficult thing to follow a mind-blowing story like Persona 3 FES had.
I don't disagree at all, I just wanted to hear his opinion since he didn't specify what it was about Persona 4 that he found weak.

I think the story had potential to be better than it was, but 1) it got off to a REALLY slow start which discouraged me greatly at first and 2) where I am, at December 20th, the conclusions thus far have been a total letdown. Granted, I haven't FINISHED the game obviously, and there's still room for a satisfying explanation for the fog and the TV world, although from what I heard, the explanations are kind of lame and/or vague.

But even aside all that, it'd have been hard to beat Persona 3's story.
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I've always thought of Persona as being more about the deep relationships that people have with each other than about a particular battle system or whatever. (That same thing is what I think gave Lost Odyssey a lot of its punch, too, as a matter of fact.) I think I'd care more about seeing the S.Links improve than the battle system. A college campus and a female protagonist would give S.Links and the story some new places to go, and, in my opinion, keep the series fresh.
Yeah, I do tend to go for games with more character/story/relationship development. Which is why I love Persona it seems, although, I won't turn down a decent battle system either.

I think, when I beat the final boss, I'll write a review or something that compares P3 and 4.
2997  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: July 27, 2009, 12:42:42 PM
Agreed, although I'd like to add that P4 was weaker than P3. At least that's what I think.

Curious. In what way? Story, characters, gameplay, or which? Or do you mean overall?
2998  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: July 27, 2009, 12:35:36 PM
As far as I'm concerned, they can keep milking that series until the games start to suck or blend together. Persona 3 FES was a masterpiece, and Persona 4 was just fantastic. Maybe bump it up to college kids next time - that should provide for some more varied S.Links.

I played a teensy bit of Devil Survivor over the weekend, and I'm a little meh on it. Story and characters aren't growing on me very much yet, but the battle system is pretty interesting.
I'd like to see them return to Persona although not right away, but in a couple years from now and do SMT4 first or something. And then do a Persona 5 with a bit of a revamped system (but keep the Social Links), with college kids like you said - and maybe a female protagonist? That'd change things up a bit.

I enjoy the system. I agree the exact same thing for a 3rd game would be tired. My one complaint about Persona 3/4 is that while 4 really improved on the gameplay, the story declined (with the exception of the Dojimas) from how good 3's was.
2999  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: July 27, 2009, 01:48:00 AM
Oh yeah, I'm not actually done Persona 4 yet. I'm in the last dungeon and I keep fucking dying. :P

Kay wait, so...
Uhhh...

If you managed to get that far, then I think the true ending is still fair game.
Yeah, I wasn't done, I just knew that I made the right choices (thus far) to avoid the bad ending (thus far).

But when I get to the end, I'll follow your advice, no worries. I want the least crappy ending possible. Heh...
3000  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Super Game Journal Turbo II - The New Challengers on: July 27, 2009, 12:15:33 AM
Oh yeah, I'm not actually done Persona 4 yet. I'm in the last dungeon and I keep fucking dying. :P
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