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1291  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast Thread on: February 03, 2012, 12:11:13 AM
And his point about Zidane and Dagger is a good one about JRPGs of today lacking a real sense of subtlety overall, especially with character development.

You refer to FF9 in a positive context. All our prior disagreements are forgiven.
1292  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Dark Souls on: February 02, 2012, 01:08:32 PM
Maybe they'll actually add some skills other than trial and error? Or not penalize players by making them grind for hours? Just wondering.

I never had to grind. And being careful and observant allowed you to pass almost every challenge in the game.
1293  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: February 01, 2012, 11:35:52 PM
They have done not one single thing to display an anticonsumer tendency

Now I know you're just trolling. It's an online pass. It's labeled online pass. Online passes are blatantly anti-consumer.
It punishes people whether they buy the game new or not. It does not reward them.

I'm trolling because I don't agree with you? And you've completely ignored my main statement. This doesn't HARM anyone. It in no way punishes you if you buy new. If you buy the game new, not a single thing has changed. If you buy used, you have to pay for extra nonessential content. You don't buy a used car and expect it to come strapped with all the perks of a new car.

Apples and oranges.

It's more like saying you shouldn't expect a used book to come with all the chapters in it.


Except that all the chapters in a book are essential. The House of Valor quests are not.

As Eusis said, the conversation needs to change back to the game now.
1294  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: February 01, 2012, 11:15:00 PM
They have done not one single thing to display an anticonsumer tendency

Now I know you're just trolling. It's an online pass. It's labeled online pass. Online passes are blatantly anti-consumer.
It punishes people whether they buy the game new or not. It does not reward them.

I'm trolling because I don't agree with you? And you've completely ignored my main statement. This doesn't HARM anyone. It in no way punishes you if you buy new. If you buy the game new, not a single thing has changed. If you buy used, you have to pay for extra nonessential content. You don't buy a used car and expect it to come strapped with all the perks of a new car.
1295  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: February 01, 2012, 10:55:31 PM
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And you've presented no proof about what they're doing other then "They said that's what they're doing! It must be true!"

Nor do you have any proof that the opposite is true, either.

How are they bilking people out of money? By encouraging them to buy new instead of used? They're not making extra money off of those who were planning to buy it new anyway. And if it WERE paid DLC (or if it becomes paid DLC, much like how Mass Effect 2 included the Cerberus Pack for free, but if your copy is used you have to buy the CP), who's being forced to buy it? No one.

Yup. And instead of giving it free to new purchasers, they could have just NOT done an online pass and released it as paid day one DLC for everyone-- then EVERYONE would have to pay for it. By your logic, Lard, this would be preferable to the online pass.
1296  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: February 01, 2012, 10:43:33 PM
I am having a hard time figuring out how rewarding the consumer who supports your product while still allowing those who opt for the cheaper route a method to get this content is anti-consumer.

And my proof is based upon every single act and word spoken by this game's development team since this game was announced. They have done not one single thing to display an anticonsumer tendency, and in fact have come across as some of the most dedicated and humble people (open to change and criticism) dedicated to making a game that RPG lovers will enjoy that I've seen in recent years. And we have people on staff who have MET THEM and can confirm this.

EDIT:

Leyviur isn't being petty, shitty, or miserable. He's just blunt. He's saying what everyone else is avoiding saying.
1297  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: February 01, 2012, 10:23:45 PM
Your reasoning is absurd, and your tinfoil hat theories aren't lending any credibility to your arguments.

You can frame it however you want, but reasoning that online passes are shitty is not absurd.

And you can frame it any way YOU want, but you're presenting nothing more than a fairly cynical opinion. Shame on those developers for trying to make money of their game. It's simply immoral!
1298  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: February 01, 2012, 07:53:59 PM
I have listened to the music as well. I like it. And if you're interested in Grant Kirkhope, you should keep an eye on the site in the near future ;)
1299  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Xenoblade on: February 01, 2012, 12:26:43 PM
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having a different opinion isnt being arrogant. just chill. relax



I can't wait to see how this pans out.  :)
1300  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: February 01, 2012, 12:05:06 AM
And done what? Said "no thanks, we don't need your money and support to finish our game. Welp, let's pack up shop guys, they want us to have an online pass. Our passion and our game aren't worth it."
1301  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: January 31, 2012, 10:18:13 PM
This studio has no record. So you can't base it on that. They've been candid, honest, and remarkably transparent throughout the development of this game and are committed to making it one for the players to enjoy. So yes, going on their word is perfectly fine with me.
1302  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: January 31, 2012, 07:25:55 PM
Are you intentionally ignoring the part where he said they release $40 in dlc? If you pay 60 and then 40 for DLC, you have spent 100. If you pay 60 and buy no DLC, wait for a year,  and buy the GOTY for 30,you have spent 90 and received all DLC.


 
1303  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdoms of Amalur on: January 30, 2012, 03:26:06 PM
Don't follow your reasoning.

Putting parts of the game behind paywalls could feasibly lead to the game being sold online in chunks.

It has nothing to do with gay marriage. That analogy doesn't even make sense.

The argument made isn't feasible. A small piece of optional and unnecessary content being FREE to those who buy new is not logically followed by selling chunks. Of a game online. And gay marriage isn't supposed to be related. It's another example of a slippery slope argument.
1304  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Xenoblade on: January 29, 2012, 11:49:07 PM
Anyways, something I didn't look at in here, but are you stuck using shitty motion controls ala every fucking terrible wii game ever? Gotta say, if so, will not be running to play this as fast as I thought. Better yet, can you use a gamecube controller to play?

The game doesn't use motion even if you DO use the Wii Remote and Nunchuk, and the GC isn't supported nor would it honestly be a good idea, all four shoulder buttons and the Back button are used so they would've needed to make a third control scheme to accommodate it, not to mention that if you hate that little, somewhat out of the way D-Pad on the GC controller you'd be stuck with it for Arts selection. Some like the Wii Remote + Nunchuk setup best, but if you'd still prefer a standard controller than just get a Classic Controller Pro for this.
Okay glad you cleared that up. Glad I bought my sister that classic controller for her wii...that I bought her as well.

Also, I just read that article. Really, you bought that article as legit. Chu chu breeding and arena? Cmon, if you played a xeno game you can't be that gullible.

I agree. It should have been plainly obvious that the article was false.
1305  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Xenoblade on: January 29, 2012, 10:38:12 PM
Do you have a link substantiating what you said?
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