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Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suikoden Topic
« on: November 03, 2010, 12:51:07 PM »
Pretty much everyone who is a fan of Suikoden doesn't consider Tierkreis to be part of the main series, or have the 'feel' of the main game.

Considering what Suikoden Tierkreis adds to the lore, there's nothing stopping the developers from inserting it into the main storyline if there's ever another mainline Suikoden game.

I said 'pretty much everyone' - and if you want a fan opinion then head over to suikosource, the Suikoden community, and ask the devoted fans there...

Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suikoden Topic
« on: November 01, 2010, 05:15:39 AM »
Wild Arms aged badly, Suikoden hasn't in my opinion.

Suiko 1's visuals are good on PSP, not looking so great on a bigger screen now. Suiko 2 still looks good on a decent size screen (32" ish) and some of the effects are outstanding (the hero/Jowy unite move for example). The music holds up really well too.

Pretty much everyone who is a fan of Suikoden doesn't consider Tierkreis to be part of the main series, or have the 'feel' of the main game.

Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suikoden Topic
« on: October 29, 2010, 04:26:10 AM »
The 108 characters thing is either 'your bag' or not. It's very much a Pokemon "gotta catch em all" factor.

The thing is, you don't have to use them and the collection of the characters acts as a secondary level of difficulty if you complete it without the full set - I'd strongly recommend playing S2 without a guide on your first run to see how many you can get, and then doing it again with a guide. I'd say it's almost impossible to collect all 108 in S5 without a guide as the windows for recruitment and pre-conditions are insanely tough compared to previous versions.

In terms of being 'generic' - there are many elements that are fairly generic but it just doesn't feel like it. The Suikoden series stands out from it's contemporaries because of the incredibly powerful stories, fantastic music (S2 final battle with Neclord ftw) and some of it's unique factors - such as the HQ that grows with you during the game. The only thing I'd genuinely change about the game is making the battles tougher as it's more than possible to beat most of the games in the series without getting 'wiped' once.

Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suikoden Topic
« on: October 28, 2010, 10:01:10 AM »
It's not a massive suprise considering Konami's casino/coin-op stuff has been using game series licences for a while. Saying that, I also saw this over on Suikosource and thought: this is the end of Suikoden.

At least this explains the trademark re-register thing.

In other news, just finished playing Suiko 1 again and I was surprised at how small the 'dungeons' were compared with how I remember them. The only one that didn't feel bite-sized was the cave at Qlon.

Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs for beginners
« on: October 26, 2010, 07:59:59 AM »
I certainly wouldn't recommend S4 as an intro. Definately S5 if the two first games aren't available (S1 is on PSN and works brilliantly on the PSP, okish on the PS3 and a larger screen). In fact, I'd recommend two run throughs of S1,2 and 5 (a fun run, without worrying about all 108 stars, and a completionist runthrough) over a single run-through of S4.

On the other hand, you might not take to Suikoden at all. A lot of people don't like the idea of picking up 40+ playable characters who are basically useless outside of the base castle ><

Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs for beginners
« on: October 26, 2010, 06:06:37 AM »
Because the games aren't specifically sequels it really doesn't matter which Suiko you start with, although there is some benefit to doing Suikoden 1 first if you decide to do a 'completionist' run through the series as it opens up the hero from the first game at a specific point in S2.

Suikoden 2 is generally recognised as the best game in the series due to a hugely engaging plot, some of the best sprite based graphics you'll get on an old console and a tougher challenge than S1 (although none of the Suikodens are tough really). The catch is that it's very rare and changes hands for around $100 on ebay.

Suiko 4 is the weakest of the main series but is worth doing if you decide to do Tactics. I've never played S3 due to the fact it never came to Europe but I've heard it's flawed in places but very good. Suikoden V is one of my all time favourites - it's VERY slow at the start compared to the other games but when the story gets going it's a masterpiece of RPG storytelling. The only downside is that the combat is incredibly unchallenging but the task of collecting all 108 characters makes up for that.

Single-Player RPGs / Re: Disgaea 4 Announced and Trailer
« on: September 23, 2010, 06:41:20 AM »
This is the average Disgaea player

Wow. That's just sad.

At the time, repeating the same map 34325425 times in a row to level your stats seems entirely logical.

Single-Player RPGs / Re: Dragon Age 2
« on: September 16, 2010, 11:19:03 AM »
Woot. Yet another game gets action-adventureified.

Give me some proper turn-based RPG and a room with four groups of 99 Berzerkers please.

Single-Player RPGs / Re: Dragon Age 2
« on: July 26, 2010, 05:20:04 AM »
The key issue for PS3 / Xbox versions is whether they're going to implement a top down view IMO. Otherwise it's PC version for me again.

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