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5401  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 3 on: October 03, 2007, 08:03:32 PM
Fair enough.
5402  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #9999 on: October 03, 2007, 08:01:31 PM
I are beatened Persona 3 with the good ending this time.  I and my party were hideously overpowered compared to the final boss, so the battle was pretty easy.  The ending was really strange at the very end.  
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When main falls asleep in Aigis' lap, is he dead?  It says he has severe exhaustion the two days prior, but I can't think of any good reason why he should die.  
 I gather that gets explained in FES.  I am are wanting FES.  

I spent almost 100 hours on that game and I didn't want it to end.  I want to fire it up again and relive the journey from day 1.  I probably won't, though, since I have a brand new copy of Soul Nomad that wants to be played.  But I can definitely see myself revisiting Persona 3 regularly in almost the same way I revisit Chrono Trigger almost annually.  

I spent an hour on Soul Nomad... and got a bad ending.
5403  Media / The Soundroom / Song of the Moment Part 7,894,673,589.3 on: October 03, 2007, 07:46:09 PM
Because it's my favorite segment in Elite Beat Agents, my SOTM is "Highway Star" by Deep Purple.
5404  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #9999 on: October 03, 2007, 09:27:04 AM
You all know what to do here: post your progress on the various games you're playing.  

I'm in "hurry up and wait" mode in Persona 3.  January 31st is taking its sweet time to get here.  However, I have gained a shitload of levels and some grossly overpowered personas through spending time in the Monad bonus dungeon where enemies are actually generous with EXP.  

Maxing out the Star S-link was worth it because
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Lucifer
is a freaking awesome persona.  I have
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Satan
too and like in prior Persona games, their
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Armageddon
fusion spell should make short work of the final bosses.  And since one of them has Victory Cry now...
5405  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: October 03, 2007, 09:23:16 AM
I think 31 pages is enough to call it a day on this journal.
5406  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 3 on: October 03, 2007, 09:16:27 AM
http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/persona3fes/index.html This is Shiguma's review of FES.  It's more than just a polished up Director's Cut.  

As for FES, it would be nice to have it on this side of the pond, but I'm just happy that in recent years we've been getting more Megami Tensei games than we did in previous console generations.  I remember the days when I would talk about Persona and people would be like, "what the hell's Persona?" Now, when I talk about Persona 3 on the boards, a ton of other people are playing it too.  I've been a pretty ardent supporter of the series since the original Persona on PSone.  

I figure if we want FES or any other awesome game from Japan on this side of the pond, we have to speak to developers and publishers through our wallets.  For example, from what I understand western gamers only received Elite Beat Agents because a notable trend was noticed that a large number of DS owners were importing Ose! Oendan! Takuen! (or whatever the correct spelling is)  A petition could work... if there's a $50 bill stapled to 100,000 handwritten signatures.  

If Persona 3 sells a few hundred thousand copies, maybe FES will be considered.  If Persona 3 sells a million copies, then it'll be like "whoa!  Fandom for this game's bigger than we thought.  Perhaps we should take the gamble and bring FES out."  Of course, given the localization process for a game like Persona 3, FES will likely be a costly endeavor.  Hence, part of the reason why I'm sure Atlus US publishes a lot of niche titles on the DS because those are less costly endeavors and taking a financial loss on those won't be as catastrophic as, say, taking a financial loss on a flagship title like Persona 3.
5407  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Elemental Gimmick Gear, anyone ? on: October 02, 2007, 09:34:58 AM
The title was beautiful to look at and had some interesting concepts... but it wasn't fun to play.  The localization was really bad and the plot direction was quite vague.  I never had any idea where I was supposed to go, what I was supposed to do, and why I was supposed to be doing it.  

EGG is one of those games that could have been really good, but wasn't.  EDIT:  It was boring, monotonous, often cheaply difficult (especially some of the puzzles), and there was never any motivation for me to do whatever it was I was supposed to do in the game.  

The Dreamcast was a terrible system for RPGs.  The only standout ones were Skies of Arcadia, Grandia II, and Phantasy Star Online.  Oh, and that Lodoss War game was good if you like Diablo style games.  But other than that, every other Dreamcast RPG (at least those that made it out of Japan) were terrible.  

However, the Dreamcast was a totally awesome system for non-RPGs.  I still think the Dreamcast was (and is) the absolute best home console for fighting games. And innovative titles like Jet Grind Radio and Maken X still look and play great to this day.  Yeah, I'd track down Jet Grind Radio or Maken X over EGG any day.
5408  Media / Single-Player RPGs / So many games... So little time on: October 01, 2007, 11:16:31 AM
I only do one at a time too.  ALthough if I play multiple games, it's usually an RPG/graphic adventure and something of a different genre (i.e. a space shooter or a music/rhythm game) to break up the monotony.  I don't need to use as many cognitive resources to pick up and play Thunder Force or Elite Beat Agents as I do when I play Persona 3 or Soul Nomad.  

If you play multiple RPGs at a time, you can keep a journal by you and after you save and turn your system off, write down your location and your next objective so when you return to the game, you won't forget where you are.  

Some games like Tales of Symphonia keep a synopsis log so you always can find out where you are and what you need to do by looking at the menu.
5409  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: October 01, 2007, 08:26:24 AM
Persona 3... I blazed my way through the five bosses in Tartarus' 6th block and am mostly just building levels in Monad.  I have high level personas to level.  

I maxed out the Star S-link and I'm not sure I really like how it ended.  

My maxed out S-links: Fool, Death, Chariot, Judgment, Star, Strength, Fortune
5410  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: September 30, 2007, 11:06:59 AM
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horribly godawful portrayal of the typical foreign Japanophile.  Seriously...I know there are some people like that out there (and they can DIAF btw :P), but it's so over the top.



That dude is so fucking annoying, clingy, and phenomenally stupid.  The only reason I bother with him is because there are some really good personas in his arcanum.  His storyline is the laughably worst as well.
5411  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: September 29, 2007, 06:02:09 PM
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Has anyone else had a difficult time with the student council treasurer?  My friendship with her is always getting reversed for no good reason.  


I'm reversed with her too, but I pretty much gave up on her long ago.  She's a total piece of work, more trouble than she's worth, and I pretty much ditched her in favor of Yuko who's more normal and actually sane.
5412  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: September 29, 2007, 01:44:31 PM
I finished Persona 3, well sort of.  I got the bad ending. Oh, and I maxed out the Yuko S-link.  Booyaka!  I didn't overwrite my save, so I'll go back to it for the good/true ending.  

I started a New Game Plus, but was disappointed that
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regardless of what sport you pick, it's always Kazushi and Yuko.  I was hoping that different sports had different characters, arcana and S-links.


If Atlus makes a Persona 4, I hope that they add more depth to the school-sim parts, create a more user friendly menu interface (equipping characters is more cumbersome than it needs to be), make a variety of fixed dungeons instead of a single  mammoth Rogue-like randomized tower, and allow me full control of all my party members in true turn-based RPG fashion.  The computer AI in Persona 3 was fairly competent and I learned to memorize their action patterns to best go through battles, but battles would have been smoother if I had complete control.  

Darkrider- may I assume that it was Mitsuru's AI that failed you in that final battle?  I think Mitsuru's AI isn't very good.  She wastes her SP using mind charge and tentarafoo (which NEVER works) when she could be attacking or party-healing.

In other games, I've been playing Elite Beat Agents a lot too.
5413  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: September 27, 2007, 07:49:53 AM
"Highway Star" is easily my favorite segment in Elite Beat Agents.  I've finished the first 8 and am on to the rest.  The one with "September" by Earth Wind & Fire gave me some trouble.  

In Persona 3, I hit some plot.  
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The Junpei-Chidori subplot was resolved.
5414  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: September 26, 2007, 06:34:36 PM
I got my copy of Soul Nomad today.  I tried it for about 45 minutes.  It's a fun game.  The mechanics aren't too difficult to grasp, but explaining them is a pain.  Plain truth: Gig rules, Danette drools.  Is she really so fucking stupid that she doesn't even realize how fucking stupid she is?  

I also snagged a cheapo copy of Elite Beat Agents.  I'm sure the Japanese version has MUCH better music.  Still, the game is really fun.  

But my main thing is Persona 3 right now.
5415  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: September 26, 2007, 08:25:03 AM
Oh yeah!  I fused me a 5 star Persona!  Trumpeter!  This one has hamaon, mudoon, agidyne, garudyne, ziodyne and is slated to learn mabufudyne.  He's weak against fire, though, so I'll need an accessory to compensate for that.  

I'd say my 5-star personae so far have been 1) Yomotsu Shikome with agi, garu, bufu, zio, and mudo and 2) Kikuri-Hime with maragion, mazionga, magarula, bufudyne, and some other cool skills.  And that was my second Kikuri-Hime.  My first one had a nice variety too.  And, of course, my Trumpeter.

As for plot, everyone
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just got back from the Kyoto class trip.  The boys got caught by the girls in the hot spring.  I'd have gotten away with it too were it not for one dude (probably Ryoji) not going into the hidey-hole.  Is it me, or does Ryoji look and talk like an older version of Pharos?
 

I'm still around floor 214 of Tartarus and 70+ hours in.  Like previous Persona games, it doesn't feel like I've been playing that long.  50 hours barely feels like 50 minutes.  Persona 3 is hands down my RPG of the year for 2007.  And that's not faint praise since a lot of good RPGs have come out this year.
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