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5431  The Rest / General Discussions / GameIndustry.biz writer rips into Manhunt 2 on: June 25, 2007, 11:13:17 AM
As I edited into my prior post, in a perfect world, regarding censorship, each "thing" would be taken on a case by case basis.  However, that would confuse the hell out of legislators who want a more simple one-size-fits-all blanket.  

It doesn't work, because of various individual and cultural differences of what should and shouldn't be acceptable.  What flies in New York City is very different from what flies in the midwestern Bible belt.  And in the case of Manhunt 2, it contains material that doesn't fly in England and got banned.  This whole case is what it is and I'm sure Rockstar will still reap the monetary benefits from this publicity.  Forbidden fruit draws attention like moths to a flame.

The whole issue regarding censorship on all levels (personal, academic, political, media, whatever else) is a complex one and though the letter of the law seems more black or white, the reality is an enormous grey area.
5432  The Rest / General Discussions / GameIndustry.biz writer rips into Manhunt 2 on: June 25, 2007, 11:01:30 AM
Why am I reminded of that Simpsons episode where Marge successfully crusades against Itchy and Scratchy but when the advocacy groups want her on board to ban Michaelangelo's David from making a tour stop in Springfield, she declines saying "I think everyone should see Michaelangelo's David."  Then there's a huge argument about what is art and how Marge praises Michaelangelo's David yet demonizes Itchy and Scratchy.  

That Simpsons reference is more of a commentary than anything else.  Still, censorship is a complex issue because while many of us would like each "thing" taken on a case by case basis, it will confuse the hell out of legislators who want a more simplistic one-size-fits-all credo with regards to it.  

One thing I see in this thread is that while many of us do not want to see censorship in our media (be it music, movies, gaming, etc.) and/or want to showcase video games in a less immature light, using games like Manhunt 2 as bastions is probably NOT going to strengthen our case any.

As for the banning in England, it is what it is.  I do not know enough about their laws to make an approving, demonizing, or neutral judgment call one way or another.  And the simple fact that this banning is causing such an uproar is just the kind of free publicity that Rockstar thrives on.  Rockstar does what I deem "shallow shock" which is shock simply for the sake of shock.  For all we know, everything surrounding Rockstar could be a whole bunch of elaborately engineered publicity stunts.  (That's obviously taking a silly extreme viewpoint, but still...)

TANGENT: Meh, I just think Rockstar Games is pandering to the lowest common degenerate denominator in much the same way that many Japanese developers do with their often degenerate hentai games.  Seriously, the stuff you find in many of those games is some of the sickest, most twisted filth shit in gaming.  And there are more H-games than most anything else in Japan, if I'm not mistaken.
5433  The Rest / General Discussions / GaGaGame Journal #5 on: June 25, 2007, 08:14:41 AM
everluck- I know CT's Frog/Glenn is not the same person as CC's Glenn.  Just like there's more than one person named Glenn in our world, and not all of them are alike:P  I was referring to CT's Glenn
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who was a green-haired squire for Cyrus who got turned into a Frog by Magus.
And there is an ending in Chrono Trigger where
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if you fight Magus in 12,000 BC when he asks you if you'll fight him, the Frog curse is lifted and Frog appears as Glenn in the ending... and Lucca thinks he's hot.  The Frog turned into a prince, eh?


With all this talk of the Trigger/Cross connections, I just may have to give Chrono Cross another chance.  I can definitely see that painstaking care was put into that game, just like the prequel.  Although I still think CC's battle music is awful.
5434  The Rest / General Discussions / GaGaGame Journal #5 on: June 24, 2007, 11:14:50 PM
After seeing the anime ending for the PSone remake of Chrono Trigger on YouTube, that "major plot twist" in Chrono Cross makes more sense.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1unVcKWX4hk

 
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The whole Kid= Schala thing.  I remember people were in an uproar over OMG blond!  In the anime ending of PSone Chrono Trigger, Lucca finds an abandoned baby girl with blond hair and a large blue pendant... just like the one Schala wore.  Somehow, Schala must've used her powers to become part of the flow of time and be reborn in another era... as Kid for whom Lucca is "mom."  I guess Magus/Janus must've died trying in his search for Schala, since Frog/Glenn is now human again; something that could only happen once Magus dies.


I could be talking out my ass though, since I never finished Chrono Cross.  I just couldn't get into it.  Still, I am aware of the debates about the game.
5435  Media / Single-Player RPGs / if it's not broken dont fix it... on: June 24, 2007, 11:05:59 PM
Re: "If it ain't broke..."

To expand on that whole concept and take it in a different direction, sometimes I think that many modern RPGs tend to go overboard with making various in-game "systems" (be they character growth systems, battle systems, magic systems, whatever else) needlessly complex or twiddly.  

I can definitely name some RPGs that had really twiddly, needlessly complex systems that felt very tacked on and only there to add unnecessary complexity.  That's been my biggest complaint with FF12 and I've talked about it more than enough times.  A more intuitive, streamlined system would have served the game better than that wacky and almost nonsensical license board.  

I'm all for experimentation, innovation, upgrading, etc. but not when there's no method to the madness.  A Shin Megami Tensei game has some pretty complex gameplay systems, but the complexity fits in the context of the game's world.  

One could say Final Fantasy is a series very guilty of "fixing what wasn't broken" in many of their later titles.  And will you look at that, FF13 is reported to return to the Active-Time battle system, for what it's worth.  Some people may even say that the Chrono series is guilty of that.  I applaud Square for taking some innovative risks with Cross (particularly with the complex battle system), but I just couldn't get into Cross like I could and did with Trigger.

On the other hand, if you follow the "if ain't broke, don't try to fix it" credo to the letter, then you get series like Dragon Quest.  Fine games, they, but there really hasn't been much innovation in that series.  It's pretty much the tried and true Dragon Quest formula that people know, love, and are familiar with.  Like a comfortable old pair of shoes.  But others might say it's stagnating because Dragon Quest games generally do play it safe and don't fix what ain't broken.

There should definitely be a balance between staying true to the formula but still spicing it up to keep it interesting.  If you deviate too much, people complain that it's too different from what they're familiar with.  If you don't deviate enough, people complain that it's a retread and rehash of the same old formula and why can't "they" do something different.
5436  The Rest / General Discussions / GaGaGame Journal #5 on: June 24, 2007, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: "Marshmallow"
Swordian users can only equip Swordians, and they can't switch ownership among themselves like in the PS1 version.



Are you serious?  That's a big flaw since late in the game (the PSone original), Stahn can partake in an optional monster battle tournament and the 3rd monster, a wyvern, absorbs fire attacks so if Stahn's equipped with Dymlos, he's screwed.  

As for my game journal, last night I finished Chrono Trigger (did all 7 sidequests, got the "true" ending) and immediately started up a new game.  Chrono, Marle, and Lucca have just arrived in the future.  I'll play it more when I visit the folks again since my SNES is at their house.  I want to try for the ending where
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everyone's a reptite because Ayla never defeated Tyrano.
 That's my favorite ending.  My other favorites are
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where Lucca and Marle rate all the guys, and the one where Frog becomes Glenn again and Lucca thinks he's hot.
 

It's rare that once I finish a game I immediately want to replay it, especiall an RPG, but Chrono Trigger is like digital crack to me and many others.  Definitely IMO Square's finest RPG and easily a favorite of mine.  

In an era where RPGs seem to be getting more and more needlessly complex, it's nice to play a fun classic that isn't bogged down by complexity &/or needless difficulty and is just fun and smooth to play.  

Right now, my Chrono is around level 94, Frog & Robo are 91, Magus is 82, and Marle, Lucca, & Ayla are all 90.  

Now that I'm back at my apartment, it's back to Xenosaga.  I'm at the part where the Elsa docked at an anti-military spaceport and Shion wants to warn Cherenkov that his military decorations will get him an ass whupping.
5437  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Greatest line in an RPG ever! on: June 23, 2007, 12:17:41 PM
Not necessarily a line, but in Chrono Trigger when you bring Chrono's friends to his house to meet his mom, the conversations she has with Frog and Ayla are the funniest.
5438  The Rest / General Discussions / GaGaGame Journal #5 on: June 23, 2007, 11:41:12 AM
I was visiting the folks this weekend, and my SNES is still hooked up in my room.  The only game I have is Chrono Trigger and I've been playing it quite a bit.  Classic game, it.  

The only way I'll stop is if/when my SNES and my Chrono Trigger cartridge blow up.
5439  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / IT'S INDIANA JONES on: June 22, 2007, 04:01:09 PM
Aah, chilled monkey brains.  

Kali Maaaaaaaaahhhhhh!  Shakti Daaaaaaaay!  

Hey, I had to quote Temple of Doom in an Indiana Jones thread especially since that got no mention yet.

(And no, monkey brains aren't eaten in India.  Because of the character Hanuman in the Ramayana epic, monkeys are a sacred animal in India along with cattle and snakes.  In some parts of India, rats are sacred too.  From what I understand, monkey brains are a delicacy in some parts of China and Africa.)

Still, the Indiana Jones series has had to tread cautiously after Temple of Doom, which was banned in India for obvious reasons.  And in all the Indiana Jones movies, there is some kind of 'terrorist/evil' organization that Indy finds himself up against.  For example, the Nazis in Crusade and Mola Ram's Kali cult in Temple.  

I would think with the state of the world being what it is now what with war, terrorism, and all that, it wouldn't surprise me if the new Indiana Jones movie would tread cautiously with regards to being more politically correct.  However, I also think that because of the state of the world, now is a pretty good time for a Jones movie.
5440  Media / The Soundroom / s0nG oF tEh mOmEnt on: June 20, 2007, 09:31:02 PM
I'm on a bit of a Dysrhythmia kick.  And the one song that I always get in my head whenever I even think of the band is "Bastard" off their Pretest album.  I've heard that song so many times, but I never get tired of it.  There's always a killer lick or riff that I think about and start jumping around the room with my bass.  

Love that band.  I think they have a new album in the works and a split CD with another band doing too.

Dysrhythmia is an instrumental band, so no lyrics for you.
5441  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Things We Hate about Star Ocean 3... on: June 20, 2007, 06:36:47 PM
Quote from: "Eusis"
What the hell, it's like Neal has revealed some dark truth that changes everything when really he just stated what many people I've seen thought.


Ha ha ha.  Dawg, you know I have a penchant for creating monsters by sometimes saying things that people are thinking but may not want to say.    

That interview was interesting.  I agree that it's silly that they say they like sci-fi and want to do it but with Star Ocean, they start out sci-fi then all of a sudden flip the script with a crash landing/accident/whatever and abandon the sci-fi altogether for the rest of the game.  

Losfer- thanks for the laugh.  

Tomara- I can only imagine the fandom for any game that involves mass coupling.  I shudder with fright at what could lurk in Memories Off or other love adventure fandom.  Still, the whole "OMG same species they should be a couple" is a bit ridiculous.  Just because two humans are the same species doesn't mean they'd be a good couple.  Look at Opera and Ernest in Star Ocean 2.  Both were Tetragenes and they were a couple, but man were they an incompatible couple.  I thought Ernest was better off with Chisato since they're both goal oriented explorers who dig for the truth/scoop.
5442  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 3 anime? on: June 20, 2007, 02:05:52 PM
The only MegaTen series I know for sure spawned an anime series was the Devil Children subseries.  There was a Devil Children TV series in Japan.  I think there have been hints and desires for a Persona anime series (i.e. the anime stuff in the Eternal Punishment fan disk), but nothing materialized.

Maybe you're confused because the link refers to the Persona 3 game as an "anime adventure."
5443  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Things We Hate about Star Ocean 3... on: June 20, 2007, 01:13:15 PM
Well, at least it isn't a "what don't you like about Final Fantasy" thread.  

And I must agree that the AI of the other characters during battles in any Star Ocean game leaves something to be desired.  Star Ocean 2 was really bad in that department.  I always thought the AI in any given Tales game was much more competent.    

Either way, it's nice to know I'm not the only one who feels the way I do about the Star Ocean games.  Perhaps if the next Star Ocean can do something like the gambits in FF12 for more customizable character AI and actually be a futuristic space traveling adventure instead of "dump you on a podunk planet for entire game" I may give it a look.

Oh yeah, question: Is Sophia really Fayt's cousin, or are their parents just really close family friends?  Because if they are blood related cousins, I have to say "eww" at Sophia's obsession with Fayt.  I don't know what it is about the Japanese and kissin' cousins/incest.  It was really bad in Elfen Lied when Yuka was totally hot for Kohta and I'm like "What the flying fuck you stupid girl?!?!?!  He's your fucking cousin for crying out loud!!!!!"

EDIT: And Eusis, that Farleen voice clip was like nails on a chalkboard.  Holy shit, dude.  I could never picture a Fayt and Nel ending.  Nel's pretty regimented and Fayt's really laid back.  It just wouldn't work.
5444  Media / Single-Player RPGs / My Favorite Part About Idiotic Fanboys. on: June 20, 2007, 12:59:57 PM
Looks like most, if not all, of us need to take a step back and take a good look in the mirror.  By arguing over stuff and using the "it's my opinion" defense that we chastise "fanboys/fangirls" about, aren't we being hypocrites?  

Remember, when you point a finger at someone, you're pointing three back at yourself.  

We all have the stupid fanboy/fangirl in all of us about something.

I'll leave the thread open for now, but if it gets really out of hand, I will lock it.
5445  Media / The Soundroom / Best Cover of The Trooper, bar none! on: June 20, 2007, 09:22:46 AM
My friend Richard (the other half of Godzilla Vs. The Smurfs) would get a kick out of this.  "The Trooper" is his favorite song.
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