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5521  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: August 26, 2007, 08:26:30 PM
Sketch my man, here's a project the Oracle of Maiya team did years ago.  It's a full text translation of Persona 2: Innocent Sin, which is the whole "Other Side" adventure mentioned in Persona 2: Eternal Punishment.  

http://www.chthonian.net/persona/oracle/

This way, you can read about everything that happened just prior to Eternal Punishment's events.  

I've played Innocent Sin and it's one of the best RPGs I've ever played.  I dont' think I've extolled an RPG in a review quite as much as I did for Innocent Sin.  But it never got an English localization.  I think it's in part due to
Code:
the first boss being your high school principal and since Columbine was fresh in US cultural psyche, offing the principal in a video game was a no-no.  That and there's some mild homosexual undertones behind one or two of the characters.


I loved Eternal Punishment, but all that mention of "The Other Side" just screamed to me that a game was missing between Persona 1 and EP.  In much the same way, how the characters in Xenosaga 3 talked about events involving Verun Grimoire and Gnosis Terrorism screamed to me that something was sorely missing between Xenosaga 2 and 3.
5522  Media / The Soundroom / Song of the Moment Part 7,894,673,589.3 on: August 26, 2007, 08:18:29 PM
My song of the moment is a conceptual one.  I was riding in the car with some friends the other night en route to a punk show in Philly and "Twist and Shout" played on the radio.  Then a couple of songs later, "La Bamba" played.  And we all thought that a high-energy punk cover tune combining both "Twist and Shout" and "La Bamba" would be pretty badass.  I mean, they have almost the exact same chord progressions but are also unique, catchy, and awesome songs.
5523  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Games you didn't INITIALLY like but then did. Later. on: August 26, 2007, 08:16:01 PM
One that comes to mind is Persona.  After 10 hours, I was sick of the game, quit playing it, and was pretty much ready to trade it in.  Then during the summer, since I had beaten everything else, I fired up Persona again and the story just opened up.  And the rest is history as I was one of the biggest Megami Tensei fanboys at RPGfan for a very long time.  I ended up replaying Persona three more times to completion.  

I had love/hate relationships with FF7, Xenogears, and Chrono Cross but guess what are the only three PSone games I actually tracked down again to have copies of?  You guessed it, FF7, Xenogears, and Chrono Cross.  And those three remain the only PSone games I actually own and will keep this time around.  

(I sold all my MegaTen stuff a few years back to buy a new bass amp.  I don't regret my decision one bit.)

EDIT: Phantasy Star 3 was another grower.  It was pretty boring until the last 1/3 of the game when the storyline really opened up and became interesting.  Now I actually look back on it fondly whereas many regard it as a complete dog and the worst of the series.

Legend of Dragoon was also a grower for me.  It was a badly translated cliche of a game until about disk 3 when the whole backstory of
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Rose and the Dragon Campaign of 11,000 years ago
was revealed.  Then it went from being a shitpile to "this game's not that bad; it had potential."
5524  The Rest / General Discussions / Xenosa on: August 26, 2007, 10:00:05 AM
Xenosaga DS- I'm at the part where
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Shion and company encephalon dive into KOS-MOS' subconscious.  Now Ziggy, MOMO, and Jr. are navigating war-torn Miltia.
 I'm mostly building levels and strengthening deathblows.
5525  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: August 24, 2007, 02:04:35 PM
Sketch- Baofu has some rather odd arcanum compatibilities compared to the others and his stats don't go up in a predictable way as say Ulala's or Katsuya's do.  He's still an awesome character, especially when the story delves more into his past.  

And weapons are useless in that game since they have magical attributes tied to them.  I just used personae 100% of the time during battles except when a character got berserked.  

Changing personae like underwear and keeping an eye out for personae like Death: Hel, who have spells in multiple elements, are key for doing combos.  

In Xenosaga DS, I'm in the Durandal where
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the Federation's blaming Shion and company for the Woglinde incident so now they need to fight through the Durandal and encephalon dive into KOS-MOS.
5526  Media / The Soundroom / J.K. Rowling rumored to be writing mystery novel on: August 24, 2007, 10:12:00 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/2007-08-19-rowling_N.htm

I'm sure you all have seen the news this week saying that Rowling is starting work on a mystery novel.  

One thing I will say is that in order to write a compelling mystery novel, an author must be skilled at creative plot twists and convincing red herrings.  Rowling's proven her skill with red herrings and plot twists with the Potter books.  She's also very good at setting the scene and mood without it getting too wordy  So I do think she's very capable of writing a good mystery novel.  Plus, when it comes to mystery and detective novels, I've always preferred British over American.  Sherlock Holmes vs. Phillip Marlowe?  I'll pick Holmes every time.  

On the other hand, people may probably be disappointed because it's not Harry Potter.  

I'm curious whether Rowling is going to gear the mystery novel more towards adult readers.  It'd be nice if she did, because she's a skilled writer, but many adults won't read Potter because of the whole "it's for kids" stigma.  Plus, in terms of mystery novels for the teen and tween crowd, not even the almighty Rowling can compete with the likes of Nancy Drew and The Hardy Boys in my opinion.  

I'm curious to see how it turns out.  

Discuss.
5527  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Jesus Camp on: August 23, 2007, 07:53:12 PM
Quote from: "Dave"
You know, I don't recall hearing about any atheist camps, actually. Ever.

And I don't remember atheists asking for tax breaks in the middle of war.

And I don't ever seem to recall atheists knocking on my door and asking me if I want to convert myself to their views.



True, but atheists have done things like try to get the "one nation under God" bit changed on the flag pledge and stuff like that.  They too throw tantrums and fits when they feel stuff "offends" their points of view.  Many atheists I've met think anyone who believes in God is a complete moron for placing faith in some intangible.  

No matter what belief system you subscribe to, nobody's hands are clean.  

But this isn't about atheists vs. God-fearers or other such things.

All I'm saying is that the kind of stuff we see in these extremist Christian profiles is stuff we may see in others regardless of belief system.  Cultural brainwashing happens all over the world.  

In my opinion, no matter what the belief system, over-zealous fundamentalists frighten me.  Fundie atheists freak me out as much as fundie Christians, fundie Muslims, fundie Hindus, fundie anything.
5528  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Jesus Camp on: August 23, 2007, 05:44:47 PM
Pat, I hate to say this but even if people haven't seen Jesus Camp, it could still end up as a mudslinging thread where "normal" people sling mud at those "damn fundies."  And the fundamentalist believers could then come back and say secular folks are "faithless" or "unenlightened heathens."  

Even on a video game forum like RPGfan, threads about religion and politics tend to bring the heat.  

Although I'm not familiar with the documentary, I am aware that this "brainwashing" is something that happens all over the world regardless of belief system.  Whether you're Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Atheist, Satanist, whatever, it's not uncommon to see organized operations of overzealous extremists doing things in the name of their belief system that may violate common sense.  I won't deny that good intentions are at work, but sometimes good intentions can manifest themselves in unhealthy practices.      

I just think documentaries like Jesus Camp or even movies like But I'm A Cheerleader about camps where parents send their gay/lesbian children to be brainwashed straight again (and therefore be free of sin and not be smited by God) are more overt because Christianity is possibly the most widespread belief system in the world.  Perhaps more covert Satan Camps or Atheist Camps or things like that exist out there.  And with Internet media being what it is, we're just more aware of things like this.  

Organized belief systems are a powerful thing.  They can bring peace, order, and hope into peoples' lives.  But they have also been the sources of many brutal wars.

In any case, I do feel bad for that father whose family's words were manipulated by the media editor.  He seems a reasonable person (I can only tell so much about a person from a secondary sourced email message) and the way the film was edited will paint him and his family in an unfairly negative light.
5529  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: August 23, 2007, 12:26:18 PM
I'm in the Cathedral Ship in Xenosaga DS.  A dungeon that I complained about as being stupidly long I now complain about as being stupidly short.  

Oh well.
5530  The Rest / General Discussions / Your Video Game Band Name on: August 21, 2007, 08:40:31 PM
Dave, I almost wanted to call my band (well music/comedy duo) Zombies Ate My Neighbors after one of the silliest survival horror games of all time, but I think Godzilla Vs. The Smurfs was the better choice.  

Maybe I should alter my video game band name to Xenogears of War.  That makes it shorter, stupider, and nonsensicaler.
5531  Media / The Soundroom / Song of the Moment Part 7,894,673,589.3 on: August 21, 2007, 02:51:14 PM
United States Canada Mexico Panama Haiti Jamiaca Peru...

The countries song was my personal favorite Animaniacs song.  And "Everything you say the monkeys won't do" with Dr. Scratchensniff was funny too.

But my song of the moment is Nutritional Facelift by Dysrhythmia.  I've been listening to the No Interference album as my bedtime music for the past few days and that song always jumps out at me.  Dysrhythmia's an instrumentals only band so no lyrics.  And I must say, Dysrhythmia comes up with some of the best song titles.  Only Dysrhythmia would come up with song titles like Running Shoe of Justice and Nutritional Facelift.
5532  The Rest / General Discussions / Your Video Game Band Name on: August 21, 2007, 01:29:09 PM
For any kind of band name, I wouldn't even try for something "good."  All the good band names are taken, so I would go for something totally stupid and nonsensical like

Fei Fong Wong and the Gears of War.

Although a power metal band dedicated to Phantasy Star named Skyhaven would be kinda cool.

And for what it's worth, the guys in the power metal band DragonForce are video game nuts (guitarist Herman Li likes to do weird picking techniques to make his guitar sound like video game bleeps and bloops) and there was a classic game on Saturn called Dragon Force.
5533  The Rest / General Discussions / Growing out my hair; need advice on: August 20, 2007, 02:16:10 PM
No, we will NOT have a chorus singing George Thorogood's "Haircut" song.

Get a haircut and get a real job
Clean your act up and don't be a slob
Get it together like your big brother bob
Get a haircut and get a real job


Anyway, in addition to keeping your hair trimmed (cut off the split ends and allow the hair to grow healthy instead of straw-like), keeping it clean (unwashed hair can smell funky), and all that, be prepared for the "growing pain" stages.  Up till about 6 months, it's going to poke out all over the place and be an utter mess.  You'll never be able to get it to look tidy.  So if you want to grow your hair long, you have to be patient during that awkward hair stage.
5534  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Ar Tonelico II on: August 18, 2007, 05:16:07 PM
I could not get into Ar Tonelico at all.  And go figure huh, I've studied psychology intensively, am working on becoming a school guidance counselor, and am nuts about dating sims/love adventures.  I too thought the game was kinda blah and not enough was done with the intriguing setting.  

The soundtrack was exquisite, though.  Though I found Ar Tonelico to be a generally mediocre RPG, the music was definitely a cut above.
5535  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: August 18, 2007, 11:15:36 AM
Tatsuya Sudou and Tatsuya Suou can be the most confusing.  It makes more sense in the Japanese version because each of those two use different kanji to spell Tatsuya.  

Another part of the name confusion comes from the godawful English translation of Persona 1 where characters were given American names.
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