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5566  The Rest / General Discussions / RenFaires are corrupting the youth of America. on: April 22, 2007, 11:49:11 AM
I think metal detectors are useless.  I mean, with today's technology (even yesterday's technology) and the creativity and ingenuity of kids, there's a lot of deadly weaponry that can be fashioned from glass, wood, plastics, and other non-metals.  

You put up one barrier, and the people will find a way to circumvent it.
5567  The Rest / General Discussions / RenFaires are corrupting the youth of America. on: April 22, 2007, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: "dalucifer0"

Being seriously, if someone is getting picked on too much, they should just tell their parents and/or the principal(and teachers.)


And risk being picked on even more?  "Ha ha, you're a little baby crying to your mommy 'cuz of the big bad bully!"  Or "what the fuck are you doing calling the fucking teacher and principal on us?  I'll beat you up even harder now!!!  Fuckin' teachers' pet!!!!!!!"

I'm not against telling someone like maybe the school counselor or the school psychologist (in fact, I'm all for telling one of them), but you need to be careful who you tell and what actions they'll take and whether or not they'll be pointed back to you and cause the bully to single you out even more.  

I believe that, yes, there are times when direct intervention is needed with incidents of bullying and harassment.  But I also believe that there are times when it is best to help guide kids towards autonomy to help themselves overcome their problems, rather than solve (or try to solve) all their problems for them.

And besides, people generally don't like to talk to adults about being bullied.  There's a huge feeling of shame and shame is one thing that prevents most people, kids and adults, from seeking proper help and counseling.  They end up retreating into themselves and letting their own confused feelings guide them into less-than-stellar decisions.  I'm sure in the girl's confused rage before that day, bringing a medieval flail to school seemed like an ace idea at the time.
5568  Media / The Soundroom / s0nG oF tEh mOmEnt on: April 21, 2007, 10:01:15 AM
Two songs of the moment.  

One is "Electric Worry" by Clutch.  Awesome song.  I'm only recently getting into them and I'm wondering why I haven't been into them sooner.  They're such a fantastic band.  From their early stoner metal stuff to the southern-fried blues of "Electric Worry", they're constantly evolving.  Is there anything they can't or won't do?  Whenever they experiment, it always sounds fantastic.  I hear they're amazing live too.  Aren't they playing in the Bonnaroo festival this year?    

The other is "Threatening Skies" by Obituary.  What a catchy death metal song.  Makes me want to jump around the room, headbang, and smash things with my fists.  Lately, I'm not into harsh death metal vocals, but I love Obituary.  Maybe it's because John Tardy has such a distinctive voice that's truly unique in genre where every guttural vocalist sounds pretty much the same to me.
5569  Media / Single-Player RPGs / OFFICIAL POKIEMANZ THREAD on: April 21, 2007, 08:21:50 AM
I'm still surprised that Pokemon is still popular enough to be a lucrative franchise.  

Heh, when someone mentioned penguin, I thought of that Chinpokomon South Park episode when Cartman beat the shit out of Kenny for his pengin.

I still call Shoe!
5570  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Best RPGs based on story alone? on: April 20, 2007, 07:11:46 AM
And one thing that I certainly overlooked and probably was pointed out by others and only got a cursory glance is what people value most in a story.  

Is it a series of epic world spanning events that makes a story compelling to you?  Is it a tightly knit tale of highly developed/well written characters that makes a story compelling to you?  Is it the quality of the writing that makes a story compelling to you?  

I realize that though I may hail a game like Hourglass of Summer as one of the best video game stories I've experienced (and I've been playing video games for around 2 decades), if your idea of a great story is a sweeping world-spanning epic adventure with knights, jousting, and chivalry, then Hourglass may disappoint since it's a love adventure.

ASIDE: some PS2 RPGs that have involved and interesting storylines but not the best gameplay mechanics would include Magna Carta and Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army.  Magna Carta has a sweeping incredibly epic storyline, but the gameplay mechanics are clunky and the load times can be horrendous.  Devil Summoner has an interesting story (it has more sense of humor than other MegaTen games), but the realtime battle engine is a bit loose and capturing demons is a pain in the neck.
5571  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Why not: all time favourite RPG on: April 18, 2007, 07:17:20 PM
Prime Mover- Tales of Eternia was released as Tales of Destiny II on PSOne.  Fun game.  A lot of people thought it was crap but I dug it; bad voice acting and all.
5572  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Best RPGs based on story alone? on: April 18, 2007, 07:10:14 PM
I dunno.  A lot of 15-18 year olds who played FF8 loved it because they felt they could really identify with Squall.  On the other hand, a lot of people in their 20s and up who played FF8 didn't like it... because they could really identify with Squall.  Squall was the "emo kid" teenager that many of us older gamers were at 15-17 and many of us want to forget that aspect of ourselves.  

The stuff Squall said and many of his actions are typical of what went through my head when I was 16.  

But you know, even now... it's been about 10 years since FF7 came out and almost 10 years since FF8 came out and if we're debating the merits and demerits of those games' stories even now, they've apparently struck a chord with enough people that there has to something really good in them.
5573  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Recently Viewed Movies on: April 18, 2007, 10:38:30 AM
Hey Nuri, have you read the Bridge to Terabithia novel?  I read it when I was a kid and though I don't remember much about it, I do remember liking it.  It had a rather sweet ending too.
5574  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Best RPGs based on story alone? on: April 18, 2007, 10:35:33 AM
I can understand why Alisha decided not to include Phantasy Star 3 (the graphics were grainy, the music was grating, and the gameplay was slow and clunky), but I'm willing to argue that Phantasy Star 3's story was possibly the best in the series.  The branching storyline spanning 3 generations was deep.  And if you managed to trudge through all of them (Game Genie is a boon here) you got a lot of insight into the world and its people.  I liked how mysteries in the first generation would get resolved in the 3rd generation.  

However, I still stand by my opinion that for story alone, graphic adventures and visual novels often have more interesting stories than RPGs.
5575  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Can* English Voice Acting ruins Characters in RPGs? on: April 16, 2007, 07:52:48 PM
http://www.audioatrocities.com/games/valis3/clip4.mp3

This one's priceless.
5576  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Can* English Voice Acting ruins Characters in RPGs? on: April 16, 2007, 07:43:35 PM
You want examples of bad English voice acting in video games?

I think anything on this site qualifies: http://www.audioatrocities.com/

"the barrier privates me from going there."
5577  The Rest / General Discussions / Sofa Company Ships Racist Couch on: April 16, 2007, 06:01:46 PM
Eh, it was just a quote that grabbed my attention when I first heard it.  I wasn't even thinking that deeply about it.  Maybe it caught my attention because it sounds like something my dad would say.  I'm not about to go Freudian on myself here.  Either way, that's the truth.  

But when it comes to my sigs, I change them all the freaking time.  Who knows?  I may get bored of this one later in the week and put something else in there.  

Admittedly, though, I *do* have issues with whiny and/or obnoxious overweight people who seem all too willing to pass the buck, blame something or someone else for their weight, and lack the personal accountability to gauge their diets and activities.  

I know full well how damaging food can be; eating disorders, food addictions, development of diabetes from overeating, over or undereating due to medical issues such as a thyroid condition... it's all circumstance and I will react and think differently on a case by case basis.  

But again, this is not a slight on this or any human condition.  It's more me just being frustrated at the people and institutions who refuse to hold themselves accountable for their own actions.  

Whatever, though.  I'm sure I have a LOT more prejudices that I'm either not willing to admit to or don't recognize as such, but I'm not about to laundry list them here.  I'm human.  We all humans have our prejudices.  Even the most brilliant therapists in the world have prejudices and the ethical therapist won't see certain types of clients because they recognize that the strength of their specific prejudices can/will jeopardize the well-being of that kind of client.

EDIT: For anyone curious about the ol' sig quote Prime refers to (because a more amusing shiny object captured my interest for a sig)... "If obesity is really a disease as everyone likes to say it is, then it'll be the only disease that can be solved by long walks and keeping your mouth shut."
     -Sen. John McCain
5578  The Rest / General Discussions / Sofa Company Ships Racist Couch on: April 16, 2007, 04:09:27 PM
Whoa.  I think I just had another "Color of Fear" moment.  This is tangential, but I think interesting for the discussion on racism/prejudice.  

In hindsight, how offensive is it when I and others use the term "white America"?  I'd say it's pretty bad.  Subversive prejudice perhaps.  I mean, when many of us say "white America" we really mean "corporate America."  The term somehow got twisted into "white America," likely because the heads of all the most powerful corporations in America (and possibly the world) are white.  Within the corporate infrastructure there is diversity, but speaking purely for myself, when I think "corporate" I immediately think "white."  

But not all white people are part of "corporate America."  Thus, "corporate America" isn't synonymous with "white America" even though many people, both within and outside America, believe its synonymity.  

That's something to ponder.
5579  The Rest / General Discussions / Sofa Company Ships Racist Couch on: April 16, 2007, 03:22:26 PM
Well, we all have our own prejudices and we all have different viewpoints on it.  I'm not going to soapbox and say that I don't.  I certainly do and yes, I DO think that not all prejudice is created equal.  It sucks, but it's just how it is in the world.  Prejudice in America is different from prejudice in other countries.  Prejudice regarding X ethnic group is different than prejudice regarding Y ethnic group simply due to cultural and geographical differences between places/groups.  

If a white person is called a honky in a country that's 85% black, it's different than if a white person's called a honky in a country that's 85% white.  Completely different experience even though the way the events play out is the same.  

It's all cheese.  Limburger is a different flavor of cheese than cheddar, but it all comes from cows.  And even then, a cow in California is different from a cow in upstate NY due to climate differences.  (ASIDE: I know someone's going to call me out on ignoring goat cheese.  d'oh! :P)

I think each and every human being in the world harbors some kind of racial prejudice.  It's in where/how it's manifested that's the difference.

Regarding the couch, I feel that, yes, the mother allowed the N-word to have meaning because, well, it does have a meaning and has had a meaning for a LONG time.  

Regardless, I think we can all agree that despite our own viewpoints on racism and prejudice, "ni**ger brown" is certainly not appropriate to have on a furniture label.  And the amount of blame-shifting, buck-passing, and lack of accountability within the company's infrastructure is frustrating and not cool.  

As silly as it sounds, corporations scares me more than racists.  It would not surprise me in the least if a healthy percentage of the prejudiced thoughts/actions/etc. in current day America that's absent in other developed nations was somehow the result of a corporation manipulating our minds.  I guess I'd concisely label it corporate social manipulation or corporate sociological manipulation.    

But the evils of corporations are a whole 'nother discussion entirely.
5580  The Rest / General Discussions / Sofa Company Ships Racist Couch on: April 16, 2007, 02:41:37 PM
Then fire up your wayback machine and change history.  Whitey made the N-word an insulting derogatory word.  It's like during the Vietnam war when the Vietnamese were referred to as "gooks."  By calling them gooks, it made them seen not human and less than human.  In much the same way, killing people is bad but killing ni**ers was fine since in white vernacular they were "un-human/ less than human."  

It's the same as people using words like fag, kike, dot-head, etc.  Get rid of those terms and people will just find new ways to degrade others to make themselves feel superior.  

No matter what, the word ni**er is offensive and derogatory and reeks of ignorance.  Not always racial malice, because like in "Color of Fear" there is that guy David who is racist but doesn't believe he is.  

Again, if you haven't seen "The Color of Fear" watch it, then maybe you'll have a better understanding of where people like Azrael and I are coming from.  Otherwise, I'm sorry to say but the "white privilege" that white folks take for granted clouds their world view.  I know that sounds harsh, but it's the truth.  White folks may not truly know/understand why something like this couch label is demeaning, offensive, and a step-backwards-in-human-equality for us non-whites.  

Sorry, but derogatory terms for white folks like honky or cracker just aren't on the same level as ni**ger since America is primarily a white country.  White majority.  Majorities get privilege.  Me calling a white guy a honky is throwing a pebble.  A whitey calling me a dot-head is throwing a heavy rock.  

"Ni**er Brown" on a couch label IS racist.  Not maliciously racist, but certainly subversive.  It's the subversive racists like David in "Color of Fear" who scare me more than open malicious racists like the Klan.

And in the case of the couch, I don't necessarily think anyone's out trying to change the world.  Just asking for some accountability from those responsible.  Is a little accountability too much to ask?

I don't think it's a case of oversensitivity to prejudice at all.  It's just a heightened awareness that wasn't there decades ago.  Things do seem to be "getting worse" but perhaps things need to get worse before they get better.
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