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5581  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Sakura Taisen DS update, Jeanne D'Arc is the bad guy? on: December 05, 2007, 03:16:33 PM
Okay, enough is enough.  Sakura Taisen's an import favorite, a DS installment is cool, etc.  

No one's getting scooped.  There are tons of primary and news sources that say the same thing, we only use those and not fansites for news, so someone's getting their underwear in knots over nothing.  

Now everyone's getting hostile stupid.  

Topic locked, have a nice day.
5582  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #9999 on: December 05, 2007, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: "Eusis"
Quote from: "Dincrest"
Well, you can always switch your control from Senel to someone else.

Maybe I need to poke around more, but from what I can tell, you can't. At least I haven't figured out how to when I played, maybe it's so you stick with Senel in the main quest then stick with each of the characters in their respective after-game quests.

Really?  I haven't played Legendia, but other Tales games have allowed me to switch control to someone else and assign AI to the main.  So I assumed that Legendia allowed you to do the same.  I know in Radiant Mythology, if you press START while the battle menu is up, you can switch.
5583  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #9999 on: December 04, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
Well, you can always switch your control from Senel to someone else.  

Speaking of Tales and Senel, I'm still having fun with Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology.  
Senel recruited me for a quest in the Aelderwood and I took Tear and Luke with me.  After killing the first monster, I got a skit I wasn't expecting.  Tear was gushing over Senel's fighting prowess saying how he's so much more experienced than Luke and never leaves any openings.  Senel shrugs it off and Luke gets a little jealous that Tear's all impressed by Senel's fighting.  It was so cute and so funny.  It was also funny when Senel and Luke were fighting about who was taller and who could grow more.

If the game was more plot based and not a stripped down single-playing MMORPG with hundreds of repetitive fetch quest, this would've been one of my contenders for best handheld RPG of '07.  

Here's hoping Tales of Innocence delivers and makes it stateside.
5584  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 3 on: December 03, 2007, 01:33:15 PM
...and some social links are just plain weird.  The Moon S-Link character was a weird one.
5585  Media / Single-Player RPGs / FFXII: Revenant Wings on: December 03, 2007, 11:10:39 AM
Hmm... maybe after FFX-2, gamers are iffy about true sequels in the FF franchise.  It doesn't help that Motomu Toriyama, who directed FFX-2, also directed Revenant Wings.  I liked X-2 personally, even more so than X in many ways, but I'm just an oddball like that.  Or maybe that handheld RPGs typically don't get the kind of fanfare that their full-sized console brethren do.  

I too thought more people would be rocking Revenant Wings.  I'm not because I'm not really into RTS games and I wasn't as into FF12 as many of you were, but let's not go there.
5586  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #9999 on: December 02, 2007, 12:38:57 AM
Still playing Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology.  I saved up enough Gald to get this great piece of armor for my character (her name's Ascarya).  During a dungeon run I got this nifty skull helmet too.  She looks so badassed now.  

I'm still in the Doplund chapter.  Ascarya's level is in the mid-30s.  I'm really digging this game.
5587  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 3 on: December 01, 2007, 09:56:20 PM
I think it's that AI in a turn based engine seems odd because that's never really been done.  I'm cool with AI in action-based RPGs like Tales of Symphonia, especially since the Tales games have always programmed good AI for computer characters.  I never had to babysit them like I did in Star Ocean games.
5588  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Persona 3 on: December 01, 2007, 09:26:30 PM
Bern- those are IMO the only flaws in the game (along with one floor of Tartarus looking like a Lite Brite.)  But the good far outweighs the bad.  I spent a good 95+ hours on one playthrough.
5589  The Rest / General Discussions / This is the most disgusting thing you will ever hear of. on: December 01, 2007, 11:38:16 AM
As long as you and your sometimes vindictive self don't pull crap like this when you're a doctor, Ashy-poo...

This is completely disgusting, yet oddly hysterical as well.  I mean mistakes like this should only happen in Hollyweird and not the real world.  For the really depraved, how horrible would it have been if it was a girl who had to poop out of her hoo-hoo?

"Kenny, we replaced your heart with a baked potato and you will die in about 3 seconds."  Although the squirm/cringe/sick/vomit/eww worthy medical procedure on South Park was Wendy Testaburger getting implants.
5590  The Rest / General Discussions / Reviewer fired over Kane & Lynch review...? on: November 30, 2007, 08:16:03 PM
Didn't one of the articles say the guy was with Gamespot for 10 years?  Being fired over ONE bad review in that span of time raises a red flag or two with me.  Did the game's developers sink that much revenue into Gamespot for advertising and the review lost Gamespot so much revenue to can a 10 year employee?  

I think there's a lot more to the firing than the review.  Maybe the review was the straw that broke the camel's back.  

Who knows?  Either way, I feel badly for the fellow.  I mean, to get canned and have that one bad review be the event most connected to it sucks.  All anyone's going to remember is that review and not all the other good stuff he's done over his decade there.
5591  The Rest / General Discussions / So I just bought a DS... on: November 30, 2007, 04:08:29 PM
As far as graphic adventures go, Trace Memory, Hotel Dusk, and the Phoenix Wright games are the best.  There are the Touch Detective games as well, but those are not as good.  I liked them personally, but most people weren't keen on them.  

Trauma Center is a good DS game, but be warned that it can get pretty difficult pretty fast.  If you or your family are into more offbeat stuff, Cooking Mama's great fun.  Elite Beat Agents is fun too (it's a Parappa the Rapper type game), but many of the songs are not very good.  

Personally, I think the DS is a tad weak in the RPG department but strong in other genres.  I hope Tales of Innocence makes it to US shores.  That game looks awesome.

DR- +1 on Rocket Slime.  I loved that game.  It was so much fun.
5592  The Rest / General Discussions / Help Jimmy with his honor's thesis...please on: November 29, 2007, 08:28:38 AM
Alright Jimmy, I have a better idea of what you're looking for.  Anything in my lengthy post would still stand.  Not that I suggested anything beyond what you already had, save Grandia II, FFX-2, and possibly Diablo and Wild Arms 1.
5593  The Rest / General Discussions / Help Jimmy with his honor's thesis...please on: November 29, 2007, 12:08:40 AM
So let me make sure I have this straight.  You're looking at video games that, in and of themselves, have strong portrayals of religion (real or fictional) and perhaps commentary within the narrative?  

But then there comes the tangent of religious portrayal being in the eye of the beholder.  Take Doom for example.  That game has some fairly surface level religious symbolism (i.e. hell, Tower of Babel), but the game was contraversial for its "Satanic Content" so while the game never had religion as a focus of its narrative (there wasn't much of a narrative to even speak of) and did not express an opinion on religion one way or another, it still provoked the ire of religious folks for having "Satanic Content."  

I hope I'm not overwhelming you with ideas and considerations, but when writing a thesis level work on a concept, there really is a lot to consider and even the simplest concepts can be viewed from multiple angles and perspectives.  

It never hurts to brainstorm
5594  The Rest / General Discussions / Help Jimmy with his honor's thesis...please on: November 28, 2007, 11:05:37 PM
Religion in video games?  This will be even broader than you might think.  

You have things like the following:

- Positive Portrayals of Religion in RPGs
- Negative Portrayals of Religion in RPGs
- Religious Symbolism in RPGs
- Killing God (which was Pat's editorial)

Religion in RPGs can be a challenge. It could be things like using a church in Phantasy Star to resurrect fallen allies and the priest says "may the Gods be with you." It could be things like how some RPGs pit you against God or religion (i.e. Grandia II, Shin Megami Tensei I) whereas others like Wild ARMs 1 put religion on your side.  Others such as Final Fantasy 7 have religious symbolism (i.e. Sephiroth thinking he's an immaculate conception from Jeonva) but don't express an opinion on religion one way or another; just that lowly humans are unfit to handle godlike powers.  

If you are going to talk about religion in video games, Grandia II is one that beans you over the head with its anti-religion message.  Even after you kill Pope Zera and the world rebuilds, it's godless and everyone is happy being free from those shackles.  Before even that, the church in Grandia II tends to have intolerant views, such as when Elena decries Mareg's belief system as completely wrong.  Or that people like Ryudo who live their lives on their own terms without the "guidance of God" are heathen who aren't living their lives the 'right' way.  

But in a game such as FFX where you break open the truth about Yevon to the people, many like Wakka still cling to their shattered faith.  FFX-2 has a New Yevon faction and the opposing Youth League.  New Yevon is proof that many in Spira could not have faith in a non-religious world.  There's one guy Beclem who's hardcore atheist and harshly admonishes the Besaid Aurochs for doing "ancient meaningless traditions" such as praying.  There's also the issue of Dona and Barthello.  They were tighter than teeth and gums in FFX, but when she joined the Youth League and he joined New Yevon, it wasn't pretty.  Interesting that no matter how close you are, where you place your faith can tear even the closest people apart.  

There have been negative portrayals of Christianity in the 16-bit Shin Megami Tensei games, but any religious commentary is less pointed in recent titles and those games tend to take cues from other religions and belief systems (namely Hinduism), not only in terms of the beings and personas you obtain but in some storyline stuff as well.  The personas and demons you can invoke in Megami Tensei games come from a variety of world mythologies and religions.  Still, the whole idea of negotiating with demons ("dealing with devils") to share their dark magics and power with you found in early Megami Tensei games does go against Christian principle.  

The bottom line with SMT1 was Law path= side with YHWH and kill Satan.  Chaos path= side with Satan and kill YHWH.  Neutral path= side with nobody, kill both Satan and YHWH.  

Digital Devil Saga utilizes mostly Hindu constructs in the demon forms of the heroes (Varuna, Agni), place names (named after the various chakras such as Muladhara and Vishuddha), and concepts (Karma, Nirvana.)  I haven't played those games enough to comment on religious themes, but they are strong even if there is no pointed opinion.  

And this is not even going into the whole "Dungeons and Dragons = Satanic!" brouhaha from the 1980s. The use of Hell and other such constructs is not uncommon in video games, Japanese or otherwise.  Diablo comes to mind.  

There are I'm sure a ton of non-RPGs (like many action games) that utilize religion in them.  I'll need to be more awake to think of some good examples.

EDIT: Come to think of it, most video games with religious content that I can think of tend to use Christianity as a basis.  Is it because it's the most widespread religion in the world?  Megami Tensei is one series that comes to mind that utilizes aspects of many other belief systems such as Shinto, Buddhism, Hinduism, and more along with Christianity (including Gnosticism which long preceded Catholicism.  Some scholars posit the polytheistic Gnosticism as an early "primitive" form of Christianity.  I don't know enough about it to say anything of note, but I do believe that Gnosticism is related to Catholicism and Christianity as we know it today.)
5595  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #9999 on: November 28, 2007, 08:33:54 AM
I'm working my way through Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology.  It's a fun game, but it's really a Tales MMORPG without the MMO.
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