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5596  The Rest / General Discussions / Is "Chess" a work of art? on: July 31, 2007, 01:51:31 PM
Come on people, let's behave.  Do I honestly need to lock this thread because some people are acting like jerks?  

Man, is it the August summer heat and the lack of anything to do when school's out that's making everyone cranky?  

And what's with the sudden feeding frenzy on Prime Mover?  Been watching too much Shark Week on Discovery channel?  I find it incongruent that the verbosity and over-intellectualization you accuse him of is something that I'm probably just as guilty of on these forums and have been guilty of for years.  So why is it that I got commended and he gets condemned?    

In terms of chess, it's a battle strategy game and people like Kasparov make it seem like an art when they play.  The deft skill involved... some people say he has it "down to a science" and others say he has it "down to an art."  go figure, huh?

I definitely think fighting can be an art.  I mean, karate, jiu jitsu, muay tai, and all are called martial ARTS.  Gally's/Alita's fighting style in GUNNM/Battle Angel Alita is called Panzer Kunst (battle arts).  And even if you know every textbook fighting technique, you have to be creative when an enemy does things that throw you for a loop, hence an art.  For me, I always associate creativity with art.  

In a similar way, counseling can be seen as an art, like when a client throws the counselor a curveball and the counselor successfully manipulates that curveball in service of the client.  Many therapist refer to the counselor/client interaction as a "dance."  

I think that whether or not something is democratically viewed as "art" there is often an underlying art analogy in there.  Elements of art can be found in many things.

EDIT 2:  I'm reminded of a commercial I saw when I was a kid for some Milton Bradley or Parker Brothers product where two cartoon characters are taking turns using it and one goes "it's a game!"  the other goes "it's art!" and they keep trading it back and forth, doing different things with it, and arguing with each other "see, it's a game!"  "No look, it's art!"

EDIT:  And I'll admit, I avoided the Ebert thread.  Why?  My own biases.  I think Roger Ebert is a tub o' lard jackasshole douchebag toolbox, so I have zero interest in anything he has to say and would  most likely react to it as "what the fuck does that dumbass porker know?" simply because it's Ebert.  And that wouldn't be very productive, now would it?
5597  The Rest / General Discussions / Is 'Checkers' a work of art? on: July 31, 2007, 01:43:05 PM
Useless waste of a thread.  It's an invitation for flaming, trolling, baiting, and other nefarious nasties the admins don't like.  

Topic locked, have a nice day.
5598  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Recently Viewed Movies Episode 2: The Vampire Bites Back on: July 29, 2007, 06:39:15 PM
Talk about your recently viewed movies here.  


I just came back from seeing Transformers today.  It completely exceeded all my expectations (which weren't super high since I'm not a Michael Bay fan and I'm a Transformers fanboy).  This reimagining of the classic franchise gets a thumbs up in my book.  Sure some things weren't "tr00" to the Transformers I grew up with, but as a reimagining of a classic concept for a new generation, it was terrific.  

The in-movie music was good, the transforming sequences were cool, and everyone was very well cast.  Shia was great as Sam.  

I liked that they gave Bumblebee some 'tude and loads of personality.  That first scene where he
completely destroys that VW bug Bobby Bolivia tried to sell Sam
was great.  

The action sequences were amazing and I liked that Michael Bay eased up on his trademark "shaky camera" techniques, which kinda make me seasick in other Michael Bay films.  

Film was fast paced, wall to wall action, and just loads of fun.  The little  
hacker bot that started life as a boombox in Air Force One
stole the show for a lot of the audience.

I still hold my opinion that Meat Loaf's "And I would do anything for love (but I won't do that)" music video is still the best thing Michael Bay ever directed.

Next weekend, I plan to see the Simpsons movie.  I have VERY high expectations for that since I've been a Simpsons fan from day one and still think it's the greatest TV show to have ever existed.
5599  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Recently Viewed Movies on: July 29, 2007, 06:30:21 PM
44 pages?  Time for a new thread.
5600  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / What the fuck is Cloverfield??? on: July 29, 2007, 06:25:27 PM
I saw that preview thingie for it when I went to see Transformers today.  Not impressed at all.  Thing seemed like a stupid-ass Godzilla rip off with cheesier dialogue than dubbed Godzilla.  I don't get what's so cream-your-pants fantastic about it and why all of geekdom is giddy like schoolgirls over it.  

Everyone else in the theater was all like "what the fuck was that?  I'm not going to go see that garbage."  And when I saw it, I was like, "THIS is the almighty Cloverfield that internerds, geeks, and the like are all ga-ga about?  This was stupid."
5601  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #666 on: July 29, 2007, 02:08:46 PM
TBD's "Memories of #5" thing at the end of the last game journal thread made me think of Memories Off #5: Togireta Film and Memories Off #5: Encore.  

Anyway, I was visiting the folks, so whenever I'm there I play Chrono Trigger.  When I return to my place, it's back to Xenosaga 2, baby.  I have an Ormus Stronghold to conquer.
5602  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Anyone can make a 2D RPG. on: July 25, 2007, 11:37:35 PM
Yes, but Atelier Iris 1 and 2 came out before 2007 and I was merely spotlighting the 2D RPGs of 2007 since I think there's a mini-renaissance of sorts in 2D RPGing this year.

Of course I'm referring to US releases since most of us here aren't importers.
5603  The Rest / General Discussions / GaGaGame Journal #5 on: July 25, 2007, 11:35:36 PM
I respectfully disagree.  I've enjoyed every piece of music in Xenosaga II so far.  Zero complaints.  Yeah the Kajiura stuff is better, but all of Hosoe's stuff has been a pleasant surprise for me and I think his techno style fits Xenosaga's sci-fi world really well.  

100 times better than the hugely unimpressive soundtrack of Xenosaga I, that's for damn sure.
5604  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Anyone can make a 2D RPG. on: July 25, 2007, 11:26:09 PM
Well, there's always independent developers like Amaranth games.  http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/aveyond/index.html  It's no secret that I really liked Aveyond, and Ahriman's Prophecy is pretty good too.  And FWIW, Amanda Fae who created these games is a pretty nice lady.

Yeah, the indie scene for gaming isn't much at this point but I think it will evolve with various technology becoming more accessible.  

I do not disagree that many larger developers are overly milking certain series for cash grabs.  It's kinda like how record companies are signing and releasing music by bands that are very cookie cutter "flavor of the month" sounds.  It's about turning a profit than artistic integrity.  Can you really tell the difference between some of these major label bands?  

And there are still bastions of 2D, and 2D RPGs have been making a mini renaissance this year.  Need I mention Odin Sphere, Grim Grimoire, Atelier Iris 3, Ar Tonelico, Super Paper Mario, and Soul Nomad among others?
5605  The Rest / General Discussions / GaGaGame Journal #5 on: July 25, 2007, 11:04:19 PM
Ormus Stronghold in Xenosaga.  Shion's still a weenie and Hosoe's music is still grossly underrated.
5606  The Rest / General Discussions / Do you "blog"? on: July 25, 2007, 03:38:53 PM
I think the personal MySpace is a waste, but if you're in a band or involved in musical projects, you'd be an idiot not to have one.  The past couple of bands and musical projects I've been involved in have MySpaces.  MySpace is an excellent promotional tool for musicians and one of the easiest ways to put your music on the internet.  Many club owners and concert promoters ask local bands if they have a MySpace so they can listen to the music.

And since I'm in charge of the Godzilla Vs. The Smurfs myspace, I blog on that occasionally.  http://www.myspace.com/godzillasmurfs

I blogged quite a bit on the Sullen Door MySpace http://www.myspace.com/sullendoor when I was part of that band.  Hey, where else can you see me call myself an all-purpose attention whore.  Oh wait a minute, I sometimes do that here.
5607  The Rest / General Discussions / Do you "blog"? on: July 25, 2007, 03:24:32 PM
I keep a livejournal.  I use it mostly to just write about life questions that I ponder about.  I don't write in it very often.  Lately my entries have been crap, but most of my earlier ones tackled my viewpoints on various life issues/conundrums.  

5608  The Rest / General Discussions / The villain discussion on: July 25, 2007, 08:41:45 AM
Remember that show "The Wonder Years?"  Kevin's older brother Wayne was a pretty villainous dude, the exaggerated nightmarish image of evil big brothers.  You just loved to hate him.  

Not a villain in the traditional sense, but definitely a bad guy you love to hate.
5609  Media / The Soundroom / The Recent Musical Purchases Thread on: July 24, 2007, 08:51:43 PM
So many albums I wanted to buy, but I could only afford to buy 2 on iTunes.  

My choices were:
Dream Theater- Systematic Chaos
Symphony X- Paradise Lost
Kamelot- Ghost Opera
Sonata Arctica- Unia.  

I opted for the Sonata Arctica and Kamelot albums.  No regrets.  That Kamelot album is incredible.  And I have much love for Sonata.
5610  The Rest / General Discussions / GaGaGame Journal #5 on: July 24, 2007, 08:28:49 PM
Oddly enough, in looking at my past Xenosaga related posts, I actually have been repeating myself more than necessary, especially regarding the music of Xenosaga I and II.  Nothing verbatim, but definitely broken record.
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