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5941  The Rest / General Discussions / *The* gamer-oriented question... on: May 25, 2006, 11:10:35 PM
Oh, behind Eikichi's clownish veneer lies a very twisted, disturbed, and troubled kid, with a LOT of depth.  Definitely one of the most interesting characters in the Persona series.  

Either way, teenage Justin seems like a 6-8 year old while teenage Eikichi seems more like a teen... Though you *do* get to
see him, Tatsuya, Lisa, and Jun as 8-year olds in flashback sequences and Maya as a 14-year-old in those same sequences.  Those kids had depth.  
5942  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Someone tell me on: May 25, 2006, 11:05:39 PM
Just as a heads-up, the Megami Tensei games people are recommending (i.e. Digital Devil Saga) are set in modern/post-modern times rather than your castles/knights fantasy settings.  I love the MegaTen series myself because of the unique post-modern settings, but many people don't really dig  that.  

What's great for you is that ever since the 16-bit days, RPGs have gotten more popular and there is a wider variety for you to choose from.  Back in ye olden days, we just took what we could get, but now we can actually be selective.  

I think in order for us to help you better recommend stuff, we need some information from you.  

-Do you want a turn-based RPG?  

-Are you opposed to action-RPGs (in the vein of the Y's or Mana series)?  

-Since you mentioned FFT, I would assume you like the Strategy-RPG genre, in which case NIS (Nippon Ichi Soft) has released a bunch in the US, such as Disgaea and Phantom Brave.  Thing is, they have a much different feel than FFT or Tactics Ogre (FFT was based on Tactics Ogre.)  

-What is it you want out of your ideal RPG?  Are you willing to deal with some clunky gameplay for the sake of an amazing story?  Or are you willing to have a less amazing story in favor of really fun gameplay?  To give concrete examples, the Xenosaga games have amazing story, but clunky gameplay.  Whereas Tales of Symphonia has a by-the-numbers story, but awesomely fun gameplay.  

And be prepared to get a lot of divergent opinions.  Take Star Ocean 3 for example.  Staff member Shiguma/Ryan Mattich absolutely loved the game and gave it a glowing review.  However, many people in the community couldn't stand the game for X, Y, or Z reason.  

I can't really help you out too much on RPGs since I'm more the graphic adventure/digital novel/love-adventure guy here on these boards and the most recent console RPG I played was Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana (which I absolutely loved.)  But consider what I've said and definitely look through the editor and reader reviews on the site since those give you a LOT of coherent information on the games.

Still, if you can dig digital novels, Ever17: Out of Infinity and Hourglass of Summer are two of the best.
5943  The Rest / General Discussions / *The* gamer-oriented question... on: May 25, 2006, 10:14:16 PM
Then again, some games like the Megami Tensei series, Ever 17, Hourglass of Summer, The Longest Journey, and others have young protagonists, but they're deep and very well-written.  

And many PC adventure games like Syberia or AnimaMundi (to name just two) feature adult protagonists who think, act, and talk like adults.  Then again, PC games generally are better platforms for more mature, adult type games.  

I think most any game with a storyline has its gritty, more "adult" stuff and its teenybopperish stuff.  15-year-old Justin in Grandia is very different from comparably aged Eikichi "Mischel" Mishima in Persona 2: Innocent Sin.  Both are teenagers, but Justin was written in a more childish manner while Eikichi was written in a darker, grittier manner.  

Among the love-adventure genre I play so much of, the 15-16 year olds in Hourglass of Summer are better written, much much MUCH deeper, and often more mature than the college-aged characters in Ai Yori Aoshi, who are often shallow, immature, and/or just plain stupid.  So depending on who's writing the story, characters regardless of age can either be well-written or poorly written.  I'll bet even your average 15 year old would think a typical RPG teen is childish and nothing like 15 year olds s/he knows.  

So I wouldn't necessarily discount a game solely based on a protagonist's age, though some teenage protagonists are very poorly written.  In much the same way, I don't discount a band based on age if their music is good.  I'm 28, and quite a few bands I enjoy all have musicians younger than me.

And don't get me started on the "M for Mature" rating.  I mean, something like Fear Effect is truly mature in terms of its storytelling and all that, while something like Conker is disgustingly crass and immature.  But both get M ratings.  But that whole discussion on age vs. maturity is another one for another time.  

Okay, back to the thread at hand.  Quitting gaming, and beating the burnout.
5944  Media / The Soundroom / Song of the Moment on: May 25, 2006, 12:24:52 AM
Song of the moment is the title theme to Hourglass of Summer (Natsuiro no Sunadokei) video game.  The song is beautiful.  I've listened to it 5 times in a row already.  Excellent song, befitting an even more excellent game.
5945  The Rest / General Discussions / *The* gamer-oriented question... on: May 25, 2006, 12:09:52 AM
Like anything in life, be it gaming, playing a musical instrument, whatever hobby, there will be times when you experience burnout on them.  I've had moments where I'd been playing bass so much and so frantically that I didn't want to see it for a while.  So I focused my energies on other stuff, whether it be video games, writing, cooking, reading, drums, and eventually I beat the burnout.  

Sometimes if you have RPG burnout, playing games in other genres can keep things fresh.  This is partially why I think there is a strong correlation that RPG fans are also fans of really intense shooters.  Both are really diverse genres, but the shooters help RPG fans beat the burnout.  In much the same way, when I get burned out on bass but still want to do something musical, I bang away on the drumkit in my parents' basement (that is, when I go visit them.)  EDIT:  And it helps that shooters are generally pretty short, so you get that sense of completion quicker than you would with an RPG, some of which can get real cumbersome.  

In addition, it was so liberating when I sold a shitload of my video games on Ebay.  Sure, part of it was so I could buy a bass amp, but it was great because then I felt like my monstrous backlog was no longer an obligation where I had to beat them all.  Gaming then became fun for me again, because it didn't feel like an obligation (and thus, like work.)

Gaming is not something I'd like to give up.  I mean, it gives me the kind of satisfactions that TV shows and movies give to others.  I like the interactivity.  But that being said, I would give up gaming before I would ever give up music.  If it were a life/death decision, I'd choose my bass over video games any day of the week.
5946  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Favorite game that reviews/people hated on: May 24, 2006, 06:06:36 PM
Secret of Evermore was a very underrated game.  It was good in its own right, but it did feel like sloppy seconds to many gamers who compared it to the Mana games that Japan got.  

Still, the one thing that bothered me about Secret of Evermore was that it was quite buggy in places.
5947  Media / Brush and Quill / Round Robin- we haven't done one in a LOOOOOONG time. on: May 24, 2006, 11:27:00 AM
You all know how round robins work, right?  One person starts off a story, then someone else picks up where the first person left off, then another person picks up where the previous person left off, yadda yadda yadda.  

So here goes:


After 45 minutes of band practice, singer Lisa Whalen, guitarist Kevin Daniels, drummer Roswell (Ross) Benton, and bassist/keyboardist Neil Kagan (all high school juniors) decided to take a break and shoot the breeze.  It was only a couple of short weeks till summer vacation and everyone was excited.  

"Man, I can't wait till summer vacation!"  enthused an excited Neil.  "My friend Ashok agreed to record us for a demo.  His family records Indian musicians at their house so if he can record that complicated stuff he can record us.  Then perhaps we can get some paying gigs at real venues, oh yeah!"  

"Well I can't wait to hit the beach and soak some rays.  That's what summer's all about," replied Lisa.  

"Tch, I'm just looking forward to not having to get up early in the morning," snuffed Ross.  

"You're so lazy, man!" teased Kevin as he affectionatly clipped the back of Ross' head.  "As for me, I'm finally going to ask out Cynthia Wu before summer vacation starts.  It's about time I finally did, you know?  I mean she's so perfect. She's so beautiful, graceful, intelligent, talented, popular..."

"Heh, a bit too perfect if you ask me," snorted Ross.  "It never fails, man.  Someone that perfect always has a deep, dark side, ya know?"

"Yo shut up, man!" retorted Kevin.  "Why you gotta be like that for!?"

"Hey, I'm just sayin..." shrugged Ross.

"Whoa, easy there boys," mused Lisa.  "I think what Ross means is that we don't wanna see you get hurt, that's all.  I mean, we're your friends and..."

"Guys, guys guys," interrupted Neil.  "I know we're Kevin's friends and everything and that good friends need to be there to catch him when he falls, but there's no need to preemptively catch him before he's even left the house, yet!  I say Kevin should go for it, otherwise he'll just keep asking himself 'what if?'  And as his friends, we oughta help him, right?"

Ross and Lisa nodded in agreement.  Kevin smiled warmly at Neil and replied "thanks, man."  Kevin had always admired Neil's encouraging attitude.

"Okay loverboy," teased Lisa as she poked Kevin's shoulder blade with two fingers.  "So what's your first move gonna be?  I'm being serious.  You gotta make a good first impression, especially with a girl like Cynthia."

Kevin thought about this for a minute.  "Well...."
5948  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Old Skool on: May 23, 2006, 09:40:01 PM
Bahamut Lagoon is awesome.  I'm not a fan of SRPGs, and Bahamut Lagoon was, like, the only SRPG I actually really liked.  Great graphics, great storyline, great gameplay, great music (Noriko Matsueda's best work IMO), that's a must-play.
5949  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Favorite game that reviews/people hated on: May 23, 2006, 06:23:02 PM
I liked SaGa Frontier too.  I once rented it just to see how bad it was, and was hooked to it all that weekend I had it.  

Some quests *are* better than others' though.  I found Red  and Emilia's quests rather enjoyable, but greatly disliked Lute's and Riki's quests.
5950  The Rest / General Discussions / Game Journal #2 on the new(ish) boards on: May 22, 2006, 10:15:59 PM
I'm playing through Hourglass of Summer.  It's a love adventure.  Review shall be forthcoming, so I won't spoil anything.
5951  Media / The Soundroom / Recent Music Purchases on: May 22, 2006, 10:13:55 PM
After much searching, I found a copy of "No Interference" by Dysrhythmia and picked it up.  

Wow, what an amazing album.  I have all of Dysrhythmia's albums that I know of: Contradiction, No Interference, Pretest, Barriers & Passages and No Interference is easily my favorite album by the band.  Tracks like "Orbiting" and "Nutritional Facelift" are stellar.  And this is no faint praise given that everything the band writes is amazing.
5952  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / So, Power Rangers. on: May 21, 2006, 10:07:14 PM
My friends' prog-rock/metal band Roman Numeral 10 likes to play the Power Rangers theme song during their gigs.  It's always a crowd pleaser.  But the band's getting a bit tired of that gag and are trying to find a new gag to do.
5953  The Rest / General Discussions / Awesome. on: May 21, 2006, 02:20:54 PM
So... is this a thread where we share the various webcomics we like to read?  If so, here are some of my favorites:

PhD: Piled Higher and Deeper http://www.phdcomics.com
Least I Could Do http://www.leasticoulddo.com
Count Your Sheep http://www.countyoursheep.com
No Room for Magic http://www.noroomformagic.com
Sexy Losers http://www.sexylosers.com
FlipSide http://www.flipsidecomics.com

And how could I not like http://www.stripcreator.com where you can create your own masterpieces?  

Here are mine:  http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/nealch
5954  Media / The Soundroom / Song of the Moment on: May 21, 2006, 12:14:31 PM
Song of the moment is one by my band, Sullen Door.  It's called "Lost Love" and it's a deceptively simple song.  We thought it was a simple little song when our frontman presented it to us and we started playing it, but it's proven more than a bitch to record in the studio.  But we still love it anyway.  I think the lyrics are great.  My bassline is simple, but it works really well with the song adding texture.   Our recording engineer thought it was a cover tune at first, and we're like "no, it's an original."  

"Lost Love" by Sullen Door.  I was listening to a rehearsal tape while writing out the lyrics, and I'm too lazy to fix up my capitalization errors.  So nyeh!

It's the middle
of the evening,
I don't know what to do
I think I might call you,
but what will I say when we're alone?
But I want to pick up that phone

And I think about it
every day,
how I let you go
and slip away
And I hope
that it hurts
you too
That's right, I hope
that it hurts
you too

There is snow,
and it's falling.  
It's falling for you.
And you know, I fell too;
I fell for you with the rest of the world
And it's you that I fell for, little girl.  

And I hope and pray
that day might come,
when I find you here
right in my arms
And I wait
for that day,
but it never comes
That's right I wait
for that day,
but it never comes
but it never comes
but it never comes
but it never comes
5955  The Rest / General Discussions / Recipes! on: May 21, 2006, 11:46:56 AM
Hey Dag, question for you.  Are your recipes ones you made up yourself?  Yes, it counts if you maybe took a basic recipe from somewhere and added your own personal touch to it.  

I love to cook, but don't always have the time to experiment with cool and interesting recipes.  My old housemate was an excellent cook.  He was the one who told me how tricky it is to cook tuna steak.  That tuna steak has to be extremely rare (very pink on the inside) or it will have an awful taste and texture.  Thing is, even the fanciest restaurants ALWAYS overcook tuna steak because people get freaked out/paranoid about the pink on the inside.  

So if you want to have a tuna steak, NEVER order one from a restaurant.  They'll ALWAYS overcook it.  Either cook one yourself or eat it at somebody's house who knows how to cook it right.  

Oh, and when I'm marinating chicken, I like to marinate it the Indian way- in plain yogurt with some black pepper.  You can use other spices to taste.  See, as a marinade, yogurt keeps the chicken tender without making it soggy, because of the live active cultures in it.  I would NEVER use a citrus marinade, because the citric acid toughens and "cooks" the fibers in the chicken meat, thus making it really tough.  I like my chicken tender when I eat it.  Citrus adds a nice flavor, but instead of using it as a marinade, I'd instead use it in, like, a lemon-butter sauce to put over the chicken and NOT cook it in the lemon.
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