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241  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The "Fucking JRPGs" Thread on: September 18, 2010, 10:45:37 AM
I don't know, maybe because I grew up and refuse to live in the past? JRPGs were great when I was fucking 13-18 years old, but I outgrew them. My vision isn't blinded by a mist of nostalgia like yours is apparently.

This is what we call a cop out and a little bit of ad hominem. You can't come up with a real argument so you simply imply that you are an adult and the other person is a child so you must be right and they must be wrong. What's ironic (or maybe it isn't unexpected at all) is that you do this with a pokemon as your avatar.
242  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of the decade on: September 15, 2010, 09:33:09 AM
I bet if I showed a girl Mass Effect 2, even just the intro she'd be like "holy fuck"

If I showed her FF13 she'd probably beat the shit out of me and then put pictures on facebook.

Do that and then get back to us with the results.
243  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Who is the most manliest JRPG hero? on: September 12, 2010, 09:48:16 AM
This is a very interesting study in what makes one manly. Here is what I have gathered summed up in one image:



You know what, if that's what it takes to be manly, I say screw it because it's not worth it.
244  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of the decade on: September 11, 2010, 11:45:52 PM
I now declare this thread is no longer about the best RPG of the decade and now about which game is more of an RPG: Mass Effect 2 or Final Fantasy XIII (neither of which were eligible for Best RPG of the decade).
245  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of the decade on: September 05, 2010, 11:42:07 PM
The conglomerate list was blah. I have to say reading the individual editor's lists were much more interesting. Because on their lists is where you start seeing games pop in that you might not normally care about.

As for the "nostalgia factor" playing too much of a role, bullocks. I would never make such a list with games unless they made a real impact on me and I doubt any of the editors do the same. You're going to remember that years later. I got Valkyria Chronicles, Fallout 3, and Persona 4 all within 3 months of each other. Fallout 3 was entertaining for a while, but is darn near unplayable for me now. I enjoyed VC about as much as Fallout 3 while I was playing it, except I still enjoying playing VC from time to time. Neither made much of an impact though I enjoyed my time with them. P4 is an entirely different story. I felt the exact same exhilaration playing it as any other "nostalgia tainted" game from 5-9 years ago. It isn't nostalgia. It's that the games being released right now, though good, are not as good. And as others have said, 10 years is a long time.
246  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ridiculous plot wanking... on: August 29, 2010, 07:07:21 PM
Boy there sure is a lot of jaded gamers in this thread. Did you all not get the memo that video games (not just RPGs) have been serving as power fantasy escapism for decades? It's like you just realized this and are upset and confused now that the wool if off your eyes. Taking the role of the individual that saves the entire world from an ancient evil is pretty darn empowering and fantastical. And this kind of story has been told quite successfully a number of times over the years by both Japanese and Western developers. Nobody has a monopoly.

And while we're on this West v. East sort of thing. It's fine if you're tired of Japanese tropes, but I can tell you, there's nothing innovative about the way Western developers are telling their stories. No, people just haven't been playing them and so they seem new. You're swapping one set of of tropes for another. They've both been telling the same stories over and over again and that's fine. Because it isn't the story that's told it's how the story is told. And both do a pretty good job at it.

Finally, upping the stakes 2/3rds the way through is a very old story telling technique. If done properly it is a hook that pulls the player/reader/viewer/listener (it isn't just for video games) through the rest of the story. It glues them to their seat so they have to finish. So no, the problem isn't that we keep finding out that the protagonist is secretly living weapon capable destroying the entire galaxy in some sort of metaphysical dream. It that the way the story incorporates this revelation is too often executed poorly.
247  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The 3rd Birthday on: August 28, 2010, 08:27:39 PM
Frankly, I am surprised this game is getting the attention it is. It looks pretty sweet (though like a number of you I am concerned about it not being enough RPG), but Parasite Eve really didn't sell all that well in the US. Yeah, this is an RPG site so I can see why so many of you have played it, but as for these other sites.... Plus, the sequel was a huge letdown (yeah, I know some of you enjoyed it, that's fine) compared to the original. The intense excitement just seems a little out of place to me.

I wasn't aware selling 900,000 copies means it "didn't sell all that well" in the west.

Whoopsee :S For some reason I remembered it not being a big seller. Not that it was a bad seller, just not a big one.

Even with this new information, I'm still very much surprised by the level of press associated with it.
248  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: The 3rd Birthday on: August 28, 2010, 04:32:28 PM
Frankly, I am surprised this game is getting the attention it is. It looks pretty sweet (though like a number of you I am concerned about it not being enough RPG), but Parasite Eve really didn't sell all that well in the US. Yeah, this is an RPG site so I can see why so many of you have played it, but as for these other sites.... Plus, the sequel was a huge letdown (yeah, I know some of you enjoyed it, that's fine) compared to the original. The intense excitement just seems a little out of place to me.

It seems like I need to get a hand held fast or I am going to be missing out on the best RPGs of this generation.

Also, a little off topic: RPG is an initialism, not an acronym ;S
249  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of the decade on: August 27, 2010, 07:50:36 AM
Someone doesn't watch enough Futurama.

I guess not =\
250  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of the decade on: August 26, 2010, 11:06:00 PM
Potroast you are wrong and you should feel bad

What a nice way to welcome someone to this website.
251  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of the decade on: August 26, 2010, 06:53:01 PM
Romancing Saga: Minstrel's Song on the "worst" list.

Minstrel Song is fantastic.  What are you on about?

I'm not sure what you mean with the phrase in bold. I really liked SaGa Frontiers I and II as well as Romancing SaGa III, so it stumped be I didn't like Minstrel Song either.


What difficulty did you play on?

I don't remember. This was several years ago.

What's your gamertag? Mass Effect only came out 2.5 years ago.

also LMAO at Persona's dialog being better than Mass Effect.

are we from different planes of existence here or what

I don't have a gamer tag. I played my roommate's copy. I didn't say I thought the dialog was better in P4 than ME (though I wouldn't dispute the claim if someone else made it). I said I thought the way P4 handles dialog trees is better.
252  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of the decade on: August 26, 2010, 11:25:23 AM

What difficulty did you play on?

I don't remember. This was several years ago.

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The dialogue trees were handled poorly

This is the only part of your post I don't understand...how are the dialogue trees handled poorly? What are you comparing it to when you say that, because the games you listed as your favorites don't have dialogue trees at all.

I think they were handled poorly because there was a cognitive disconnect between what I thought I was selecting and what actually resulted from what I selected. I'd pick something I thought was compassionate and then Shepard would yell in their face. I have not had this problem when playing either Oblivion, Fallout 3, or Arcanum.

Also, Persona 4 does have a form of dialog tree and is probably the best one I've seen in any game. It produces mild variations in how scenes play out. Yet, it doesn't affect overarching narrative tremendously. It just makes beating the game a lot harder if you are a jerk to everyone. But you can do that and it switches things up a little.
253  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of the decade on: August 26, 2010, 07:48:50 AM

Worst of the decade:
Mass Effect

What didn't you like about mass effect?

Uh, I thought the storyline was drab and disengaging. The dialogue trees were handled poorly. The battle system was confusing, but this didn't matter because the game basically played itself. Though very pretty on the face of thing, there was something uninspired about the art direction. This soundtrack, though dramatic often felt out of place.

I'm going to get myself in trouble for saying this aren't I :S
254  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Cladun release date, Tactics Ogre stuff, Front Mission 3, and Persona 3 social on: August 25, 2010, 10:50:20 PM
Does anyone know why the Euro PSN store is getting games like Vagrant Story and Front Mission 3 while the US store isn't? I'm happy for the Europeans and it's not skin off my back since I own both on disc already, but I've been wondering this....
255  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Best RPG of the decade on: August 25, 2010, 10:32:07 PM
Worst of the decade:
Mass Effect


Woa...dude. You got balls.

Stupid balls, but they are big stupid balls.


I carefully select which RPGs I play and I thought I would enjoy this one a fair bit, so its as big of a surprise to me as it probably is you. Maybe if I actually had a chance to play some of the Square Enix 360 games (Infinite Undiscovery, Star Ocean 4, The Last Remnant) that are so maligned I'd be able to put one of them in its place. But I have not had the opportunity (to my dismay).
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