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31  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Playstation 1 RPGs on: June 24, 2012, 09:36:24 PM
Gee, I probably spent a little too much time with Squaresoft PS1 RPGs, neglecting other companies. Oh well, here's a couple of my favorites:

Vagrant Story: I think this is one of the best PS1 games of any genre, but it reaches farther than it could grasp and comes up short often in the gameplay department. Specifically, the combat mechanics are complicated, a bit overwhelming at first, and in some cases rather cumbersome. Some aspects of it can also seem rather antiquated by today's standards. However, it can be very educational about the development of games because VS really is sort of a transitional game in terms of combat in many ways. That said, the story, setting, and music are still incredible, even today. And the exploration aspect of the game really is top notch. This is a game everyone should at least try playing.

SaGa Frontiet II: If I had to give this game a letter grade, it would have always been a B+. But this is one of those games where I feel like that is selling it short. The gameplay is OK, that's why most people play games, and that's what is really holding it back. But aesthetically it is incredible. The soundtrack is one of the best of any game, the visual style with all the hand-painted backgrounds makes it one of the prettiest games one the PS1, though the sprites aren't all that great. As for the story, it isn't groundbreaking, but the storytelling certainly is.
32  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Agni's Philosophy [Next-Gen Final Fantasy Tech Demo] on: June 08, 2012, 11:00:46 AM
That video does look incredibly exciting, but people's nervousness with SE has nothing to do with their ability to created stunning visuals. They still have a lock on being pretty much the best at that, what people have lost confidence in is their ability to turn those stunning visuals into stunning games.
33  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: disappointed of new generation rpgs..... on: May 24, 2012, 08:27:50 AM
I do feel disappointed with today's RPGs. I still have fun playing them, but I don't get wowed as often like I did for the SNES, PSX, or PS2. To put it simply, the 2nd or 3rd tier quality RPGs for those systems, the kind that are still fun, is the best today has to offer. I suppose this isn't a big deal if you like Western made RPGs since I feel like their quality almost never elevated itself out of 2nd or 3rd tier and they're still plugging along today. But for RPGs of Japanese origin, they really have taken a big hit.
34  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Key Developers Leaving Square Enix… on: May 14, 2012, 10:51:47 AM
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"Concept is the most important part of a game," said Inafune. "If the concept is good, 80% of games are good. That's how important the concept is."

Concept is worthless. Execution is all.

An awful concept executed flawlessly is still going to be awful. So no, execution is not all.
35  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What one RPG would you award 100% to? on: March 31, 2012, 10:34:52 AM
I sure am happy for you that you didn't need all of your credentials to tell you all those things about Earthbound. I have pretty much all the same credentials, and I don't need them to help me make decisions about Earthbound's graphics either. I consider Earthbound's graphics average. I agree the art direction is very good, and everyone's continued belaboring of this point makes me think we're talking past each other.
Guys, guys. ALL SNES games looked like shit. Come on, they weren't even 3D.

There are two kinds of people in this world, those than can extrapolate from incomplete data.
36  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What one RPG would you award 100% to? on: March 30, 2012, 11:47:20 PM
No offense, but you guys sound like you're talking out of your butts about Earthbound's graphics. Don't get me wrong, I like the game and still do. I beat a rental copy three times when it first came out and a few more times on [redacted]. Yeah, its art direction fits the game well, but FF7's has great art direction too.

Basically, Earthbound has always had crappy graphics, but now people decided they like it now because they finally realized the rest of the game is so good (which it is). Final Fantasy VII had good graphics, but over time look dated. Wind Waker (since somebody brought it up) always had good graphics, but people were too butthurt over the cell shading to realize this at first. All of these games have good art direction.

Except it doesn't. Speaking as a designer and art director, Earthbound is beautiful. And I didn't need 4 years of higher education, a degree, and 6 years of industry to tell me that. I knew that at 13 years old, because art and technical fidelity are not the same thing. FFVII had great art direction, but it has technical issues which interfere with that. Earthbound does not.

The team behind Earthbound was more than capable of making it look like Chrono Trigger or Seiken Densetsu 3. They didn't, and that was on purpose. Earthbound was meant to be whimsical and childlike. It was meant to allow for a cartoon-like level of expression (not to be confused with animated cartoons, I am talking about cartooning itself), which it succeeds in. As well, it was meant to have a surreal quality, which it also accomplishes.

I sure am happy for you that you didn't need all of your credentials to tell you all those things about Earthbound. I have pretty much all the same credentials, and I don't need them to help me make decisions about Earthbound's graphics either. I consider Earthbound's graphics average. I agree the art direction is very good, and everyone's continued belaboring of this point makes me think we're talking past each other.
37  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What one RPG would you award 100% to? on: March 30, 2012, 10:41:55 AM
No offense, but you guys sound like you're talking out of your butts about Earthbound's graphics. Don't get me wrong, I like the game and still do. I beat a rental copy three times when it first came out and a few more times on [redacted]. Yeah, its art direction fits the game well, but FF7's has great art direction too.

Basically, Earthbound has always had crappy graphics, but now people decided they like it now because they finally realized the rest of the game is so good (which it is). Final Fantasy VII had good graphics, but over time look dated. Wind Waker (since somebody brought it up) always had good graphics, but people were too butthurt over the cell shading to realize this at first. All of these games have good art direction.
38  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What one RPG would you award 100% to? on: March 29, 2012, 03:04:55 PM
That said, graphics should only count as far as their timelessness.  FF7's graphics are definitely a mark against it in this day and age; whereas most sprite-based games from that same era still look fine today, like Breath of Fire 3.

Anyways, my decsion is split between Earthbound, Suikoden 2, and SMT Nocturne.  Hands down those are the best RPG's I've ever had the pleasure of playing.  The gap between them and anything else isn't even close in my mind.

I think it is interesting you consider FF7's graphics a mark against it, but still include Earthbound in contention for near 100%. Earthbound was considered an incredibly ugly game at the time of its release, and it is still as ugly as ever even today.
39  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What one RPG would you award 100% to? on: March 19, 2012, 09:45:07 PM
Am I the only one who found Half-Life 2 kind of boring?  I didn't even finish it.  I thought the original was much better...


I found it quite boring as well. But I didn't like the original either :S
40  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What one RPG would you award 100% to? on: March 19, 2012, 12:56:55 PM
Planescape: Torment

That's as close to a perfect game as I ever expect to play...

I think the controls are so mind bogglingly annoying that I couldn't give it 100%. Otherwise, really top notch.
41  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What one RPG would you award 100% to? on: March 19, 2012, 08:01:58 AM
The only 100% game I've ever played is Flower, which is not an RPG. If I were to list my favorite RPGs, a lot of them would be 80-89%. Each has one or two large flaws, but do other things so well I just gush over them. I think Chrono Trigger might be the closest to a 100% RPG.
42  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Why does BioWare hate blondes? on: March 17, 2012, 05:17:04 PM
I have a complaint, why the hell are there no fat character in most bioware titles besides the volus? Is bioware discriminating against the larger community? I find it offensive as a porker myself that bioware has limited fat characters to a secondary when most of america is comprised of obese people. I mean, we outnumber everyone 2 to 1, which when equated to size, is more like 5 to 1. Bioware, for shame!

I know your post is supposed to be tongue in cheek, but it's an incredible idea. A serious deconstruction of what is normally associated with being heroic. But they'd have to play it straight-faced to work. None of this lol bumbling fat guy somehow manages saves the world and get the smoking hot chick because he's so funny and cuddlywuddly.
43  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 3 (expect ME1&2 spoilers) on: March 16, 2012, 08:10:00 AM
So having not played ME2 or ME3 (didn't like the first, so I don't plan on it), what's the deal with trolling some ME fans by comparing it to Gurren Lagann? (the rest of seem to think this is awesome or do not care)
44  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kat Bailey: Do Japanese RPGs need good stories? on: March 15, 2012, 01:36:40 PM
Is it sad that very little has changed in the 5 years since that roundtable was originally posted? Don't get me wrong, there have been quite a few good games to come out from both the W and J, but by and large it has been more of the same on both sides.
45  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kat Bailey: Do Japanese RPGs need good stories? on: March 14, 2012, 10:35:48 PM
Since this thread has in mind the discussion of JRPGs, I thought I could share a video I ran into the other week.
It's a show, called Penny Arcade which I've heard about but for whatever reason never gave much attention to.

They go about why we need to categorize RPGs as Western and Japanese. Here's epsiode 1 and here is episode 2

I don't remember if I ran into these videos here on the forums but I thought they were so interesting to our crowd it could be nice to share.


The comic is called Penny Arcade, the show is called Extra Credits. Here's the third and final part. I have to say I was incredibly underwhelmed by the episode. I was actually underwhelmed by the whole miniseries, but I thought the big pay off would be the final episode. Arg, I was wrong.
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