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1051  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Games You'd Like To Give Another Chance And Why? on: December 22, 2011, 05:02:59 PM
FF6 is one of mine because it feels like it takes forever to get started.

It does take forever to get started, that was one of the things that put me off it at first. Personally, since I put up with Final Fantasy XIII, which takes far longer to get started, I'd probably be able to get over that. I dunno how you'd feel about that, though.
1052  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Games You'd Like To Give Another Chance And Why? on: December 21, 2011, 09:10:50 PM
After playing Dragon Warrior again and actually enjoying it the second time around, I've been thinking a lot about games I should give a second chance. It's interesting how going into a game with a different mindset makes it so you enjoy games differently. Basically, the idea here is what games didn't you like the first time you played it that you think you should probably play again? Why do you think you didn't like it the first time, and why did you think you'd think differently now/later?

For me it's mostly RPGs I played when I was new to the genre, like Final Fantasy 6, Final Fantasy 1 (GBA/PSP), and Golden Sun, as well as some non-RPGs like Banjo-Kazooie:

Final Fantasy VI - Every time I've played this game, I've found new reasons to dislike it, from the story, the characters, the combat, ecetera ad nausium. However, I think I've finally come to term with most of it's problems, especially when I think about how I've put up with far worse in Final Fantasy 1 for the NES and still greatly enjoyed it. Compared to that, FF6's problems seem incredibly miniscule.

Golden Sun - It starts out very slow and there's too much dialogue, but the biggest problem was that it was too easy and the combat's too simple. However, after playing the Xeno series, which has far more dialogue, and Breath of Fire GBA, which has even simpler gameplay and a similar lack of difficulty, yet I enjoyed both games immensely, I think I could easily forgive Golden Sun's shortcomings now.

Final Fantasy 1 (GBA/PSP) - Like with Golden Sun, it was too easy and too simple, but once again, Breath of Fire, while not quite as simple, was similar in most ways, and I've been hooked on that game for quite some time. I think if I came into it with the same mindset I brought to BoF, I could easily enjoy it and maybe even come to love it.

Kingdom Hearts II - I went in expecting it to be exactly like Kingdom Hearts 1 and was extremely disappointed to find it very different. I think if I just go in expecting an enjoyable game, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Super Mario RPG - I expected it to be as top-notch as Paper Mario, only to be disappointed. Again, I think I shouldn't hold it to such high standards. If I just expect to enjoy it, who knows, maybe I will?

The World Ends With You - I'm gonna have to ignore the hipster atmosphere, hope to G-d that the angsty teens get better towards the end of the game at least, and that I can get a handle on the gameplay, but all that does sound doable...just...it's work...
1053  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: the next big Jrpgs on xbox and ps3? on: December 21, 2011, 09:08:12 PM
Nobody is forcing you to buy the game. 

He's forcing himself to buy the game, out of the vain hope that he'll actually enjoy it.
1054  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Atlus Game Announcement Thread - Mark 2 on: December 21, 2011, 07:48:47 PM
My wallet can't take this...
1055  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Kim Jong-il dead on: December 20, 2011, 10:40:10 PM
I see somebody's grumpy today.^_^;

Anyways, I agree with some people are saying that it may not change anything, but at least now there's some ray of hope, as faint as it may be.
1056  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Looking for turn-based RPGs on: December 20, 2011, 04:14:51 PM
PC is outside my area of expertise, but I do know of a decent free game: Ahriman's Prophecy. It's the precursor to Aveyond, so if you like Ahriman's Prophecy, you'll have a whole series to look forward to. You may also want to check the PC section of the reviews, since this site does handle some lesser known PC RPGs, including traditional ones. Already I'm seeing 3 Stars of Destiny and To the Moon with high ratings.
1057  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdom Hearts Series Discussion on: December 20, 2011, 11:04:05 AM
I'm very fond of the first game (sans unskippable cutscenes) and the GBA one. It was a lighthearted adventure with very little doses of melodrama and the plot integrated really well with the Disney cast. It's a shame the series is dead to me after the trainwreck called KH2.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who enjoyed the first KH battle system. You could block, glide, roll, counterattack, everything without the need to be in one of those "fusion forms" gimmick (don't remember what the game called it). How disappointed I was when I discovered I couldn't freely glide anymore, because Sora had to be in a certain form. To add salt to the wound, the game was composed of large rooms without treasures you had to jump around/glide to get. Everything was in plain sight. Not to mention the craptastic story, weak soundtrack when compared to first one. Rant, rant, rant...

Nope, I loved the KH1's battle system too, for all the same reasons. And you pretty much spelled out why I disliked KH2 so much, sans the already-talked-about button-mashing and the new art-style (the FF/KH characters no longer blend with the Disney characters like they used to).
1058  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdom Hearts Series Discussion on: December 19, 2011, 11:37:51 PM
KH2 was a step forward in every aspect of the gameplay.

Unfortunately the story turned to shit.
And button mashing was the way to go, mostly.

Heh, just about to say that. I had to put KH2 on Proud before I was able to enjoy it. It was too easy to fall into just mashing the X-button, otherwise. Even then, when things got hectic, that's what I tended to do. And for the record, I never found mashing X to be very effective in KH1, especially since Magic was more important in that game.
1059  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdom Hearts Series Discussion on: December 19, 2011, 08:54:33 PM
I thin it's stupid that Nomura is acting like a pisshead about KH3 because the handheld's haven't sold up to snuff... but I do say that Birth By Sleep is not only the best in the series (weird for a spinoff), but one of the best games I played that entire year.

This. This this this. BbS was surprisingly and quite unexpectedly beautiful.

I like this series. I think KH2 was this incredible step forward, and then most everything after that was steps backward (until BbS).

Just curious (since nobody's actually explained it to me before) but how did you think KH2 was a step forward?
1060  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Kingdom Hearts Series Discussion on: December 19, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Am I the only one who hates cross-universe stuff? I mean I just can't stand square + disney..... not saying the games are bad, in fact in all honestly I can't give em a fair shot because square + disney is like dipping chocolate in ketchup to me.... in other words, its something I would never think to do and doesn't appeal to me in the least....

Yet it tastes delicious (okay, not really, but KH does work).

Anyways, KH1 is my favorite RPG of all time, and unlike some people on this board, I haven't lost my love for the series. KH: Chain of Memories was great, and tied the first two games quite nicely. KH2, as I've mentioned in my first post ever here, was the most disappointing game I've ever played. Luckily Birth By Sleep and 358/2 Days made up for that. 3D looks like it could top both of them and I'm really looking forward to it.^_^
1061  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: the next big Jrpgs on xbox and ps3? on: December 17, 2011, 06:43:50 PM
I still feel that the "just ok" games get elevated to awesome status because of the general lack of any real competition.

I think I know what you mean. I have a friend who says the PS3 is a must-have if you like JRPGs, but when ever I ask him what great games the PS3 has, he tends to list stuff like Ar Tonelico Qoga, Trinity Universe, and Hyperdimension Neptunia - games that are okay in most respects, but not really that great.

Man, I don't want to sound like an asshole but how old is he? I can't imagine anyone that has played RPGs since at least the PSone and/or PS2 days saying that those games are great. Personally I think that those titles are garbage, but hey, there is an audience for those types of RPGs and there's nothing wrong about that. But what happenned with games like Valkyria Chronicles, Nier, Demon's Souls or even Disgaea 4?

He sometimes lists Nier and Demon's Souls too, it's just that he seems to put those other games on about the same level as Demon's Souls and Nier. As for his age, lets just say he's been playing RPGs since the NES era, yet he doesn't seem as tied down to the past as most. Hell, last time I asked him what his favorite RPGs were the oldest game he listed was Morrowind and King's Field IV. Granted, he seems to see the good in all RPGs, I think he's definitely exaggerating the quality of most PS3 JRPGs just because there aren't as many to play. Even if they are his kinda games, there are better games in those niches, some of which I'm sure he's played.
1062  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: the next big Jrpgs on xbox and ps3? on: December 17, 2011, 12:57:24 PM
I still feel that the "just ok" games get elevated to awesome status because of the general lack of any real competition.

I think I know what you mean. I have a friend who says the PS3 is a must-have if you like JRPGs, but when ever I ask him what great games the PS3 has, he tends to list stuff like Ar Tonelico Qoga, Trinity Universe, and Hyperdimension Neptunia - games that are okay in most respects, but not really that great.
1063  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: xmas thread 20!! on: December 16, 2011, 08:59:21 PM
King of Fighters XIII (PS3)
Solatorobo: The Red Hunter
Persona 2:Innocent Sin
God of War III
Sonic Generations (360)
Mobile Suit Gundam: 08th MS Team Complete Collection
Ruroni Kenshin Trust & Betrayal Limited Edition Blu-Ray

I've been a good boy~
1064  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: the next big Jrpgs on xbox and ps3? on: December 16, 2011, 05:03:47 PM
Can somebody who disagrees with me actually respond to what I wrote?  I feel like a lot of people are just throwing up their hands saying there are no good console JRPGs without actually looking.  I just listed 6 quality console titles that out to all be out in 2012: Tales of Graces f, Atelier Meruru, Xenoblade Chronicles, FFXIII-2 (though admittedly I'm still a little skeptical on that one), Ni no Kuni, and The Last Story.

I disagreed, and while I'm not exactly dead serious about the subject, with a tendency to somewhat inflate the issue beyond its actual scale, there is one thing worth pointing out about your argument:
Most of the "good jRPGs" you named aren't even out yet. That right there is a sign that things aren't looking too hot at the moment, since any one of them may very well turn out to be a dud.

Yeah, you really have a point there. I got a PS3 mostly for those upcoming games, but I don't see much to play out of what's already on the system. Disgaea 4 and both Atelier games, but that's really it for me as far as JRPGs go. I was anticipated 3 other games, but they all turned out to be duds (Ar Tonelico, Rune Factory, and Hyper something or other Neptunia...those are the only games I've been wrong about since I first started playing RPGs). So yeah, things aren't looking good right now, and if those other games turn out to be duds, things'll be even worse.
1065  The Rest / The Bazaar / Re: Revised Trade/For Sale List of RPGs/Anime_4 Dragon Quest games $90 plus FREE FF on: December 16, 2011, 01:08:07 AM
I'll just wait and see if it's still there in January.
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