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1096  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: January 10, 2013, 03:21:23 PM
Anybody else watch the latest season of Gintama? I just saw episodes 253 and 254. I have not kept up with this show, or even viewed its first episode, before. I have see a few bits of prior episodes here and there, but found the show to be simply too weird to really get into.

But holy cow did that change with those episodes! The comedy was perfectly balanced this time around - not only does it have just the right amount of strangeness and absurdity while not going completely overboard, it also has the right about of comedy versus serious drama and story, which at least where I'm at is pretty good - There were times when I felt genuinely moved, especially in episode 254. I'm also not entirely lost, despite not knowing everything that's happened up until now. The characters are the usual tropes so it's easy to understand them, despite not knowing who they are. The in-jokes don't seem that plentiful and when they're there, they're funny just for being absurd. Really, this might be a good place to start if you haven't already. Maybe. It's possible those bits I saw got me familiar enough with the series, but still, I'd say it's at least worth a try.

For those who have kept up with the series, how do these episodes compare with the rest of the series? I'm really thinking of trying to get into this series.


@Kevuda - I intend to give Maoyu a shot in a week or two, but I'm not too confident they'll pull it off for some reason. It's just a gut feeling, but I've learned to trust my gut feeling more than anything else.
1097  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: January 10, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
Amnesia's one of the shows I was hoping to follow this season (Along with The Unlimited and Cuticle Detective Ibara). I'm not a CR Premium member, though, so I gotta wait until next week to start it. It certainly sounds promising enough.

I actually have a lot of shows I want to watch an episode or two just to try them, as well...
1098  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Dragon Quest 4 DS quick question regarding items in the game on: January 09, 2013, 10:06:10 PM
...but damn are the battles slow and boring and it takes so long to gain a level. Really getting frustrated with this


Not going to lie, that was the main reason why I hated Dragon Quest for a while.
1099  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: January 09, 2013, 10:01:50 PM
I tried to list things that weren't Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Fairy Tail or some other well known big name.

I also didn't list those tournament fighters because most of them aren't really anything special.
Who here wants to watch Beyblade?

I guess there's Shaman King that's a tournament shonen fighter, right? I never watched it myself... so can't say.

There's Shaman King, Blue Exorsist, Soul Eater (which I swear he said he saw some of), JoJo's, Hitman Reborn (which you listed. I blanked on it earlier), Hunter X Hunter (2011), Dragon Ball (not Z. A lot of people never saw the original, which is way different from Z), Gintama (more of a comedy I guess, but it still sorta counts), Beelzebud, Fist of the North Star, Rurouni Kenshin, and Yu Yu Hakusho. All of Which I enjoyed much more than Naruto, Bleach, Inuyasha, and Fairy Tail. Those four are bottom of the barrel in my opinion. Not Better than One Piece, though. That show is the shiz, man (I dunno if Klyde would be into it, since it tends to be very silly a lot of the time, though).

Wait. Why do you consider Fairy Tale to be bottom of the barrel material? I thought that it was basically Rave Master with a better cast?

To be fair, I didn't watch a whole lot of Fairy Tail, only got through the first arc. But the problem is it doesn't set up an end goal early on, and from what I gather, it never gets one. The premise, which is about the Fairy Tail mage guild and adventures they go on that may or may not have anything to do with eachother, is relatively bare-bones and just sounds like a total excuse to make things up as he goes and end it the minute it gets unpopular. I seriously got to the end of the first arc and figured they could end the show right there, because there were barely any presented questions left unanswered. Heck, they didn't really even set up character motivations despite having 10 episodes to do just that, or even who the main character is - is it Lucy the useless or Natsu the bonehead? (I should hope it's Natsu, but what other reason does Lucy even have to be in this show?) It's as if the author himself set the bar as low as possible, and that really annoys me.

Meanwhile, none of those were problems in Rave Master, IIRC. There was a clear goal, clear main character, who had motivations that were made clear enough fairly early on. And I watched all of Rave Master that was on Toonami for those reasons alone. It was a pretty meh show, but I consider those things essential to shounen. In fact, while some like to keep you guessing about the character motivations, I can't think of any other shounen show that doesn't really establish a central goal early on, besides Bleach, which suffered for it, IMO.

TL;DR, it's bottom of the barrel in my eyes simply by default, by lacking some key traits that usually ensure my general enjoyment of these types of shows.
1100  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: January 09, 2013, 09:32:18 PM
As far as recommendations I read a lot of reviews from THEM, Nihon Review and MyAnimeList....if it sounds interesting, regardless of the scores received, then I try and find a way to watch it. There's actually a guy who lives not too far away from me who has a pretty large E-Bay store, so his shipping is dirt cheap to me.

I see. That's pretty interesting. I never read reviews of anime unless it's a show I'm done with, since I'm afraid it'll color my opinion of the show beforehand. For some reason I don't have to worry about that with games, but for anime, it's all about my expectations. Anyways, interesting how that works for you.

Btw, I notice that if I like the intro to an anime, I tend to like the series. I can't think of any show where going by the intro didn't have some value. If it got me pumped, the show got me pumped. If the intro was meh, the show was usually not to my tastes. The only thing is that it only works for the first intro.
1101  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: January 09, 2013, 07:57:13 PM
@Bytor - I must ask, how do you come upon these shows? I thought I knew of a lot of stuff, yet you consistantly bring up shows I honestly can't recall ever hearing of. And it's not like Master Keaton or Saikano are stuff that never made it over here, either.
1102  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Gen6: Pokemon X & Y on: January 09, 2013, 06:31:32 PM
I've been playing RPGs for over two decades now.... yet somehow in all that time I never picked up a pokemon or a kingdom hearts title... well ok, I purposely avoided kingdom hearts because disney makes me feel weird (blasphemous i know).... but pokemon just slipped by me...

sooooo now for the obligatory question.... if I were to entertain the idea of giving these games a shot where should i start..??? So many colors to choose from.... should I even bother playing any of the last installments or just wait for this?

Too early to say if this one will be worth it. I think Pokemon Black/White or HeartGold/SoulSilver are the best to start with. Black/White eases you into the game and is the least grindy. It also has only 150 pokemon to collect in the beginning. HG/SS is the best Pokemon game in general, with the most replay value.
1103  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Gen6: Pokemon X & Y on: January 09, 2013, 12:22:06 PM
It's been an option for a very long time :P

The problem is that after the game boy installments sometimes they had the text crawl slower or had this weird delay after a line finishes, so even turning the animations off felt longer. I don't think BW was a exception to this.

I think BW is an exception to that, actually. Not entirely sure, though, but looking at a video it does seem a heck of a lot faster. I'd pull out my copy, but then I'd have to dig out my DS...
1104  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: TERA: Rising Free-to-Play on: January 09, 2013, 12:00:58 PM
I'm sad I didn't get it when it was new. I'll definitely try it out soon, once I have disc space.
1105  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: January 09, 2013, 11:48:43 AM
Fushugi Yuugi

Fushigi Yuugi is soooooooo not shounen...

I've seen people call it shounen. That's literally all I know about it.
1106  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: January 08, 2013, 10:27:34 PM
I'm about 380 episodes into the anime of One Piece. I'm not exactly sure what stall tactics you mean, though, but I haven't read the manga, and I watch a lot of shounen, so I'm probably too used to it to notice.

Otherwise I agree with everything you said, Raze, except I've rewatched some of Yu Yu Hakusho recently, and still think it's great despite doing some things I normally don't like in Anime.
1107  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Gen6: Pokemon X & Y on: January 08, 2013, 07:38:20 PM
It's been an option for a very long time :P


I remember using it in Gold, I think...

EDIT: Yup, since Gold.
1108  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: January 08, 2013, 07:31:34 PM
I tried to list things that weren't Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Fairy Tail or some other well known big name.

I also didn't list those tournament fighters because most of them aren't really anything special.
Who here wants to watch Beyblade?

I guess there's Shaman King that's a tournament shonen fighter, right? I never watched it myself... so can't say.

There's Shaman King, Blue Exorsist, Soul Eater (which I swear he said he saw some of), JoJo's, Hitman Reborn (which you listed. I blanked on it earlier), Hunter X Hunter (2011), Dragon Ball (not Z. A lot of people never saw the original, which is way different from Z), Gintama (more of a comedy I guess, but it still sorta counts), Beelzebud, Fist of the North Star, Rurouni Kenshin, and Yu Yu Hakusho. All of Which I enjoyed much more than Naruto, Bleach, Inuyasha, and Fairy Tail. Those four are bottom of the barrel in my opinion. Not Better than One Piece, though. That show is the shiz, man (I dunno if Klyde would be into it, since it tends to be very silly a lot of the time, though).

In addition there's The Law of Ueki, The Flames of Recca, Buso Renkin, Elemental Gelade, Mar, and Rave Master, but I either never saw them (but heard they were mediocre) or saw them a long time ago, and don't remember anything about them (besides being mediocre). (Mediocre's still watchable, BTW, and I have met one person per show who quite enjoyed each of them, though they are in the minority)

Oh yeah, and there's Toriko, Saiyuki, D.Gray Man, Fushugi Yuugi, Get-Backers, and Samurai Deeper Kyo, which I know nothing about, besides one or two people per show like them. Guess that means I got some more to try.
1109  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: January 08, 2013, 05:57:20 PM
A good shonen? Hmmmmmmmm lemme think...

PURE BREED SHONEN:
Digimon Adventure, Digimon Tamers or Digimon Savers would be a good place to start.

HIP SHONEN:
Eureka Seven - although I personally never liked the story.

INTRIGUE / ADVENTURE:
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood

SERIOUS / DEADLY:
Jyu Oh Sei - which I mentioned in the unknown animes

COMEDY:
School Rumble (if you consider Harima the main character... I know I did)

ALL AGE:
Katekyou Hitman Reborn

SURE VALUES:
Gundams
Evangelion
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann


Mahou Sensei negima is awesome, but only in the manga format. They tried to animate many times and it sucked every single time (The OVAs are good though)

Wow...none of those are shows I really think of when I think of Shounen. Well, except for Full Metal Alchemist I guess. I know shounen just means "for boys", but a lot of people talk about Action/adventure, tournament fighter type stuff that appears in Shounen Jump.
1110  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal on: January 08, 2013, 04:30:34 PM
I thought Bleach was great for the first season. It's just that it was never really meant to last very long, and it shows. Coupled with a huge amount of filler, it ends up going downhill pretty quickly in my eyes. Naruto went downhill quick, too, but I think Naruto just wasn't the type of show I wanted to watch. It's mostly arena battling, not unlike Bleach, rather than being an Action adventure show like One Piece or Dragon Ball, where they go around and see lots of different locals.

Also, I thought you saw Soul Eater? That's shounen.
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