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706  Site Related & More / RPGFan: Site / Holy Shit.....TEN YEARS!? on: October 25, 2007, 04:10:41 PM
Meh... wake me up when it's old enough to drink.
707  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Greatest line in an RPG ever! on: June 22, 2007, 05:20:37 AM
Sorry to resurrect this dieing thread, but with the completion of Super Paper Mario, I've got a new one for the books:

"To feel sadness is to be alive, but as long as you're alive, the future is a blank slate..."

"...and with that, I am hungry"
708  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Greatest line in an RPG ever! on: June 09, 2007, 06:56:22 PM
Seriously, compared to our hum-drum lives, most events that take place in RPGs would send us bawling, or emotionally comatose. Granted, some of the "writing" for those lines is pretty bad and cliche, but I wouldn't say that the characters are being overdramatic or over-emotional in that regard, just that sometimes the emotion that's meant to be expressed is REALLY DAMN DIFFICULT to write for and voice act, well.

Anyway, on to quotes. Seriously, I love the group quotes from the Tales series:

Genis: "Dwarven Vow number 3, 'Peace and Love will always prevail'"
Lloyd: "Jeeze! I hate that vow!"

Luke: "Did you see my attack, I was awesome!"
Tear: "You're attacks were wild, you're swinging too much... you were a mess."
Luke: "Tch... SHUT UP!!!"

Anise: "Wow, that last one was loaded!"
Luke: "Sheeesh, the battles bearly over, and she's already got the money!"

(That last one is quite possibly one of the greatest VA deliveries I've heard in a video game... priceless!)
709  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Greatest line in an RPG ever! on: June 08, 2007, 11:59:37 PM
Lucid, I totally agree.

Here's the thing, while I've heard it talked about alot, described to me (by some parents, shokingly enough, which was very odd), and thrown around a lot... I can't say that I've ever actually "met" an emo kid. Now, I don't exactly hang around with teenagers very often, but honestly, I'm begining to think that it's this prototypical social group who probably existed in some form for about 6 months, and then went into relative obscurity, or completely dissolved.

I think it's a group that everyone thinks is okay to hate, because no one actually knows anybody in that group... because it doesn't really exist, not in any major cultural context, anyway.

Has anyone met more than one or two "Emo Kids" in their life time?

I just think these labels are applied to anyone that people don't connect with. I've heard both Cloud and Squall described as emo, but really neither one fits any of the discriptions I've heard. Both are hard-boiled, quiet, and bottle up their emotions. Hell, the only time you know, at all, what Squall is feeling is because the game shows the thoughts in his head a lot, which I thought was a very effective move on the writers' part.

Though, honestly, yesterday's teenager is today's adult. I'm 26, and I'm still going through some of the stuff some of the characters in games go through. I guess that's one of the reasons I still connect with a lot of game characters. 20-30 make up, quite possibly, the largest buyers of RPGs. It would be nice to have some main chacters in this age range. Many times the characters SEEM like they're in their mid-20s anyway.
710  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Greatest line in an RPG ever! on: June 08, 2007, 10:50:46 PM
Ramsa, point taken, well said. However, although Emo kids fail to actually PRACTICE Nihilistic tendancies, they do tend to TALK about them a lot: "The difference between a pios man and a murderer is probably nothing... boo hoo... *slashes wrists*" is still refering to Nihilistic philosophy, even if it's obviously not understood very well.

All I'm saying is that the quote in question is right up the ally of the kind of thing that will appeal to emo kids. It's the kind of thing an emo kid might SAY... although not really believe it, simply because it's the "cool" thing to say at this time.

And I do agree that philosophy, at it's base, is one of the most important aspects of the human condition, and should be discussed, IMO, a lot more than it is. Unfortunately, it also tends to be used, not for exploring personal growth, as it should, but for self-gratification by means of making oneself appear more intelligent. I see a lot of anime, films, and video games aimed at young adults that attempt to be "philosophical" simply so the audience can pat themselves on the back... but in reality, not have had to do any thinking for themselves. THAT's the real danger here.

Now, I have no idea whether Drakengard falls into this catagory, or not, I've never played it.
711  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Greatest line in an RPG ever! on: June 08, 2007, 08:28:45 PM
Actually, you're all right.

Nihilism really is at the heart of the emo "trend" (or whatever you want to call it). I don't pretend to be a self-proclaimed expert on everything emo (thank god), but nihilism, at least a fairly simplistic and sophomoric form of it, is central to the emo ethos.

The bottom line is that nihilism is considered "cool" these days, and has been for some time. It's becoming fairly cliche among pop culture groups: Punks, Black-Metal heads, Otaku, Emos, Goths, Hipsters... etc. Having a character in a game say it kind of reeks of pandering to the psuedo-philosophy of a lot of pop culture crowds.

I have no idea about the context of this line, since I've never played the game, but by itself--honestly, my "pandering" radar went off the moment I read it. It's just hard-boiled, angsty, and anti-authoritarian, nothing deep and intellectual, just "badass", if you will.

So much of games and anime these days are pandering to people who seem to want to become overnight philosophers, but have no idea how to think for themselves.

"Nietzsche is dead, get over it"
-- Me
712  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Greatest line in an RPG ever! on: June 06, 2007, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: "Dincrest"

Eh, I'm pretty religious about following RPG naming. Although, I do change stuff up in FF7. I typically rename Barrett Mr. T, and I ALWAYS rename Cait Sith, "Cat Shit", because I hate the stupid fuck. Other than that the only other two that I rename is the main character in FF5 (cuz "Butz" sucks), and Garnet's secondary name in FF9. I got into naming her "Khatru" (after a Yes song) because I thought it fit her, somehow, and I've always ran with it ever since... "Dagger" just doesn't fit.
713  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Greatest line in an RPG ever! on: June 04, 2007, 02:48:30 PM
Yeah, Grandia II had a LOT of good ones. So did Lunar 1 & 2, by extension.

But, as of recent, my favorite is a Balthier:
"Every day, the world finds new and exciting ways to kill a man."
714  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Replaying RPGs? on: February 28, 2007, 09:41:22 PM
I find myself replaying RPGs from time to time, especially last year during the pre-Christmas draught (before Okami, FF12, Tales of the Abyss, Twilight Princess, etc.) But I notice something, I hardly ever finish a game that I'm replaying. I usually get about 3/4 the way through and think, "eh, that was fun, onto something new". The only epic games I've only completed multipul times are Chrono Trigger (twice, and not on +) and Metroid Prime (about 3 or 4 times, all within a period of about a year). But so many great games, while being even better the second time through (FFVIII, FFIX, and Skies of Arcadia, in particular), I find myself turning off just before the point of no return.
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