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226  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: Forget everything you knew about Tomb Raider! on: December 01, 2012, 05:28:39 PM
New video.
227  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: December 01, 2012, 08:18:22 AM
Going to a shooting range today, hunting rifles and shotguns. Got a groupon discount for it back in august, and my appointment is for 2, so my buddy is driving and sitting in. Looking forward to it, and will hopefully take a few pictures of it to put up here.

Sounds fun.  Looking forward to the pics.
228  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Videogames and depression on: November 30, 2012, 06:19:44 PM
I love this subject..... Having a number of lovely "titles" I myself have been given by "professionals" (such as OCD, ADD/Overactive Mind Syndrone, Manic Depressive/Bipoar/Bipolar 2, personality disorder, social anxiety disorder and probably a host of others I've forgotten) I have also been through the gamut of treatment options.... I gave up on doctors nearly a decade ago having eventually concluded the best way to become well adjusted mentally and emotionally was through cognitive and behavorial changes... On that note, I also tend to believe such "titles" carry a bit too much "weight" in that many diagnosis given are doing nothing more then labeling a personality trait that comes with a pill attached to it (all of which just further throw neuro-balance out of whack in the long run....)... But I'm drifting from the matter at hand....

Just to throw this out there, I wouldn't be too hard on them.  The subject can be damned difficult to handle correctly, in particular if they're dealing with partial information and they really do the best they can.  As an example, I was diagnosed with ADD in the past (now been revised to aspergers) and was given stimulants to treat it.  As a kid it worked brilliantly.  As I got older the help it provided started to slide, though concentration became the least of my problems as anxiety attacks and depression worsened.  After a while I read a book called Walking it Off: A Veteran's Chronicle of War and Wilderness by Doug Peacock and it chilled me to the bone.  The sections where he described his PTSD symptoms and, more importantly, his general personality traits and tactical mindset that developed when violence was approaching were like staring into a mirror.  I grew up in a very rough town but it had never occurred to me that I had PTSD -- never mind that I had showed some symptoms that in retrospect are very obvious -- because I came from a family where the only people that get PTSD are soldiers and anyone else is a lying pussy so it had never even occurred to me to bring up the nightmares, paranoia, or any other signs up during sessions.  Only having a partial diagnosis wasn't their fault.

I immediately brought up those concerns with the psychiatrist that I was dealing with and he concluded that I had PTSD and that keeping me on stimulants to help with ADD symptoms was the exact wrong thing to do because having pre-existing anxiety meant that that would cause concentration problems and that keeping me wired would only make that worse, and make me more paranoid and/or aggressive.  He instead put me on a combination anti-anxiety/anti-depression med that has worked wonders for my concentration issues.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that pills are the answer to your problems, they work for some and not for others and I'll freely admit that the depression element of those meds didn't work for me*, but I think your dismissal is too harsh.

*To be fair, the situation I was in was too damn hopeless (objectively) for pills to do much, I think.  Currently they take the nastier edge off of my depression symptoms and keep me 'content' until I'm in a good enough position to try to make something of my life again.

Quote from: Klyde Chroma
I couldn't agree more.... But it extends a bit beyond depression for me.... The length of time I can play, the amount of attention I can lend to a game while playing, as well as assessing my recall of my playtime are all measures for me to check myself cognitively. How I play and how long I play tell me a lot about how I'm doing mentally.... In fact, I'd go so far as to say in some respects gaming has proven MORE efficient in "diagnosing" and treating some of my problems than any other means I've explored......

Case and point....

A doctor says I have ADD..... I think I'm just too hyper-inspired and excitable for my own good sometimes.... The fact I know to be true is that stimulants calm me down and allow me to focus... At the correct "dosage" the stimulants allow me full faculty of my brain and decision making as well (I don't feel scatter-brained or compulsive, I can make decisions based on logic and/or reasonable desire instead my thoughts and motivations bouncing around like a super-ball in my head)....... That correct "dosage" of pharmacutical remedies was not something doctors were able to achieve with me, and those options just created more problems by throwing other things out of whack.... Now, today, things are very simple.... I play whatever game I am currently playing. If I can devote the amount of time and attention to the game that I like (or more accuractely what I decide to be appropriate) I am good..... If I can't devote the amount of time and attention to the game I medicate... You know medication is now for me? Coffee.... I increase coffee consumption until I can comfortably focus and play my game.... I do this routine every morning... have for years... The result? I have not had a problem focusing or working for years and can easily apply myself to my work for however long is required without feeling or acting on an impulsive need to do anything else.

Everything that follows is interesting stuff but I'll be cutting off the quote here because this post is already long and I'm riffing on a general theme of your post at this point.

In my case I have more difficulty focusing on reading or listening to music with no distractions, perhaps unsurprisingly, than games, so I use those as a diagnostic for how well the ADD/anti-anxiety element of treatment is working.  I can focus on a game if I'm having problems with that, and it's only severe depression or anger that keeps me from being unable to focus on a game, hence my point about going for help if I get that far.  Generally if I'm unable to focus on gaming it means that I'm about to start contemplating the pros and cons of Lookout Mountain, to be blunt.

In any case, I'm glad to see that gaming and coffee work well as therapy for you.  I hope we get some more interesting stories like this in.
229  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Who's coming with me to Cat Heaven Island? on: November 30, 2012, 01:00:31 PM
That island seems like a wonderful place.  I love cats. <3

I'm loving the giant Yoda face in my face right now.  I feel like I have to do some ridiculous photoshopping to it.

This reminds me of a story from a photography class I took in high school.  The teacher's ideas were usually solid but she occasionally had some disastrous ones like having groups of three work together by having one person function as the subject for a photo and the other two work as photographers/photo shop editors to enhance the photo.  One bright fellow allowed his friends to convince him that he should be the subject of a photo in which they did a close up of his face with his mouth wide open.

A fist fight nearly broke out after he wandered off for a few minutes and returned to find that his photo had been 'enhanced' with a drawing of a giant dick placed suspiciously close to his open mouth.  T'was a good day.
230  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: November 29, 2012, 04:40:05 PM
So anyways, on my gaming front I went a snagged a cheap copy of both Jade Empire and Panzer Dragoon Orta for my otherwise barren XBox library.

I'll finally have something to talk about in this thread beyond other peoples' games.

Both are great games.  I'd like to know what you think of Jade Empire.  I think it's Bioware's forgotten classic.
231  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Etrian Odyssey IV announced for 3DS on: November 28, 2012, 10:42:00 PM
Pre-ordered.  Also, this will give me an excuse to get around to Etrian Odyssey III some time soon.
232  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Re: XCOM: Enemy Unknown on: November 28, 2012, 08:59:48 PM
What I am looking forward to the most is being able to name my soldiers after my friends, and then update them on their virtual fates. :D

A friend of mine in high school did this with our group of friends in The Sims.  A few weeks in I was scarred for life by the stories I heard. :(

Thread duty:  XCOM seems very interesting and is getting solid reviews.  I have a huge backlog to work on so I don't know when I'll play it, but I'll probably try to buy it within the next few months as a show of support.
233  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: November 28, 2012, 02:25:18 PM
Okami had a really neat final boss encounter and endgame, but oh man my final results were embarrassing. Zero deaths, lots of yen and enemies killed (all cherry tree rankings). Praise was a green tree ranking, but Demon Fangs was only a sapling :(. Might replay for trophies one day down the line; Okami was a great time.

There's a piss-attack you can buy (labeled as a taunt) that is totally worth the 100k you have to spend on it.  Simply press O near an enemy, Amaterasu takes a godly piss, and a demon fang pops.
234  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: November 28, 2012, 02:19:35 PM
There was a report on the news just now about thieves going out before Christmas and tailing mail trucks so they can go door-to-door and steal packages as they follow along.  Normally I'm against corporate welfare and other things that lead to excess taxation but I'd happily support government subsidization of rocket launchers mounted on the back of company trucks to fix this problem.  Fucking bastards.
235  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: November 27, 2012, 11:53:50 PM
I felt more safer with Marco than Aht.  Neither were damage sponges, but I can't stand characters who can barely take 2 hits. 

Same here.  I like the traps but I'll take a more extended/tedious battle over having to constantly worry about her health level.
236  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: November 27, 2012, 09:48:28 PM
Made my way most of the way through Jak and Daxter and then felt the very strong call of Arkham Asylum.  I don't feel too guilty about popping that disc in, J&D seems like an easy pick-up-and-play game for when I get back to it and finish the series.  I can't say much about Arkham Asylum yet but the opening is promising with the fluid combat and interesting atmosphere.  Also reminded me that The Joker is one hell of a villain.

RC also let's you just whack guys to unconscious if you don't wants to be fight at them.

that's another great feature.  Unfortunately they sometimes tend to move faster than my sword. :(
237  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: November 27, 2012, 02:23:20 PM
The Radiant Historia playthrough goes smoothly now.  I do find the combat system a bit tedious in certain battles, but I suppose that applies to most turn-based RPGs.

I find turn based *extermely* tedious; I respect Radiant and stuff like the Persona series that try to add a spin to it.

One thing I greatly appreciate is when a turn-based RPG includes an auto-battle option so you can plough through the average goons more easily.  I'm very glad that Radiant Historia adds that option (in addition to the more obviously nice grid system).
238  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Videogames and depression on: November 27, 2012, 01:31:14 PM
Personally, video games serve as an excellent 'canary in the well' for me when it comes to increasing severity of depression.  If I'm depressed enough that I can't concentrate on a video game and give up it is time to get help and do so immediately.

As for video games addressing depression:

I don't think video games have a strict responsibility to address depression myself (I argue this from a 'do whatever the fuck you want' artistic freedom standpoint, so we're clear), and I agree in part with the idea that trying to develop a video game with the intent of treating depression could be problematic but not entirely so simply because any developers interested in delving into that area could easily hire psychiatric experts as consultants to work on the game with them so they would have someone with knowledge on hand.  That said, I do not see such a project being viable from a commercial standpoint so I don't think we're likely to need to worry about it.

On that note, I do think games can be therapeutic by providing something for sufferers of psychological disorders to identify with if that issue is addressed within the storyline and characters within the game.  Given that many games are set in the middle of wars or other trauma inducing events PTSD seems a prime candidate for this.  After all, some games that involve the use of alcohol have taken a look at the darker side -- even going so far as to show withdrawal symptoms -- and it seems that PTSD oriented hallucinations or hindrance of your character could be a logical next step in this direction.

Also, this interview with the creator of Papo & Yo seems relevant to the topic at hand.
239  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: November 27, 2012, 12:53:10 PM
The Radiant Historia playthrough goes smoothly now.  I do find the combat system a bit tedious in certain battles, but I suppose that applies to most turn-based RPGs.  With much reluctance I gave up on the Assassin's Creed series (for now) after I finished 2 and popped the Jak and Daxter collection into the PS3.  The game started a bit slowly and I was tempted to skip straight to 2 or 3, but I persevered and pretty quickly found myself having a lot of fun between the fascinating world designs and the way that the game is structured to benefit a compulsive item collector such as myself but not drive me insane with too much crap to collect.  I'm impressed with the seamless worlds, too, given the time the game out, and the way the game avoids too much repetitive game play.  Based on the percentage number on screen they decided to take a 'short and sweet' approach with this game, perhaps to help avoid repetition.
240  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: November 26, 2012, 07:58:14 PM
Damn 1up.com.  Every time I visit that site I seem to end up with 20 new tabs open and hours of reading ahead of me.

I'm currently trying to figure out how I can get internet in my new apartment as soon as I move in.



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