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1  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: RPGs for the Sega Saturn on: March 15, 2014, 01:13:46 AM
Shining the holy ark is definitely one of my favorite dungeon crawlers, but then I always had a soft spot for the entire 'shining' franchise.

Guardian Heroes is also an incredible game (though not strictly speaking an RPG) if you have people to play it with, I haven't played a brawler yet that beats it.

I'll repeat all the Dragon Force praise here, the closest way I can think to describe it is a 'light' version of a Koei strategy game, but in a good way.  Games can be finished in a reasonable amount of time, battles are fun and it has a lot of charm.
2  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Help me get caught up on the last 13 years. on: February 18, 2014, 11:40:02 PM
Thanks for the recommendations guys. I own a PS3, XBox 360, Wii, Wii U, Super Nintendo,  and N64.

While you may not want to add another to that pile, Vita is absolutely spoiled on JRPGs with PS1/PSP support and being able to suspend is great for times when you are between save spots.

RPG games I've enjoyed over the last few years and would recommend in no particular order (MMOs excluded, but the remainders are a mix of subgenres):
Xenoblade (Wii)
Valkyria Chronicles (PS3)
Final Fantasy XII (PS2)
Kingdoms of Amalur (Multi)
Dragon Age (Multi)
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions (PSP)
Ys: Oath in Felghana (PSP)
Legend of Heroes: Tits (PSP)
Phantom Brave: Hermuda Triangle (PSP)
Tactics Ogre: LUCT (PSP)
FF4: Complete Collection (PSP)
Vagrant Story (PS1)
Jeanne D'arc (PSP)
Disgaea Series (PS2/3, PSP/Vita)
Wild Arms XF (PSP)
Phantasy Star Portable 2 (PSP)
Dissidia Duodecim (PSP, does this count?)
Neverwinter Nights 2 (PC)

I'm sure I'm forgetting some...
The western RPGs listed above are the more narrative focused ones that ideally you should still find appealing.
3  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: New NIS announcements - Battle Princess Arcadia and Fencer Fairy F for NA on: February 15, 2014, 11:32:52 PM
I really enjoyed Disgaea 4 (WAY better than 3 or D2) and I wouldn't mind buying it again to play on a handheld and have the console DLC included.  I'll definitely get it digitally... once I get a Vita.  Maybe later this year. 

Just curious, why do you consider Disgaea 4 much better than Disgaea 3?

I'm only early into 3 (need to get back into and finish it soon) and never played 4.
But I've seen very mixed comments on which people prefer, usually without any explanation.

Considering the proximity of 4, I'm hesitant to get immersed in the post-game of 3 only to be burned out on it when 4 comes out if it's really better.
4  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: "X" by Monolith on: February 15, 2014, 11:23:44 PM
I must also say that the WiiU is, by far, my fav hardware from Nintendo in a LONG time. They actually blew my expectations completely out of the water with it actually...

The HD upscale of Wii titles increased the WiiU value exponentially for me as well.

I agree, I had a Wii I never really touched but got the WiiU because I now have two young daughters and it seemed the system to get them started on.
So far I've actually been extremely pleased with it, and the game selection has been more then enough to keep me happy between the ports, first party games and virtual console (though I have less time to play than most).  And of course off-tv play, enabling me to play console games while laying in bed (making my Vita work harder for attention).

Also playing Wii games with the clearer HDMI out has been great, including Xenoblade which I picked up on Black Friday and now see what all the fuss is about.
It quickly became one of my favorite JRPGs and imagine my surprise when I found out a sequel was due out in less than a year!

I was a bit iffy when I first got the WiiU, thinking it would just be the family Mario machine, but it's turned out to much better than I expected.
5  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Western Fantasy Suggestions and Your Favorites on: February 02, 2014, 02:44:09 AM
I thought steam had to drop it for awhile on account of stuff happening and the game becoming public property of the state of Rhode Island.

If they did I missed it.  I had been watching for the DLC to go on sale for a while now.
6  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Western Fantasy Suggestions and Your Favorites on: February 02, 2014, 01:17:40 AM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/102500/

Amalur's on sale. You can get the pack with the DLC for 12 bucks. Also it's the Steam version so uh, no Origin?

Thanks for the tip! Believe it or not I have NEVER bought/played/used steam yet... I know nothing about it... I suppose I should stop being so ignorant in that regard

It would definitely be worthwhile to pick this up.  It's the first time I can remember seeing the steam (non-origin) version on sale.
7  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno. on: January 20, 2014, 09:35:15 PM
The Persona games are unlike what you think of as "overreact among themselves for motivation." They feel more human and real to what people in the real world would react, despite their anime nature. Whenever I go through political/faction driven plot in Final Fantasy Tactics or Tactics Ogre, there's way too much in the plate for the plot to condense itself for someone like me to get involved in the story. It can be construed that I just need to pay more attention in order to be invested in it, but you don't have to go through that huge amount of grand scale to get something out of the plot. Every time I'm trying to get invested into the characters and their struggles, it feels more like a chore than an easy story experience in say Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky or Persona.

It appears we just look for different things in our games.

I have Persona 3 on the PSP and 4 on the Vita, both of which I've tried to start a few times.
But when things get rolling I find myself tuning out and losing interest as the characters spend time and energy talking about their days at school, the people they like (or don't), and various emotional issues.  Their interpersonal collisions which drive character development grate on me.   And while maybe they are accurate  representations of teenage behavior they just aren't something I find compelling (although maybe I'm expecting too much, how many teenagers are rational actors anyway?).

To me those things are just as much a turnoff as the political maneuvering of Tactics Ogre is to you.
8  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno. on: January 20, 2014, 04:33:38 PM
Even with those said, I still couldn't get around the dialogue at all. Maybe it's because I'm more into personal stories like in the Shin Megami Tensei games and I can''t get around to stories such as Matsuno's stories and the Witcher series because they're too involved into open-ended political ramifications to the point where all of my personal engagement go out the door. They feel more like I'm reading my college history textbook than an actual story and god knows I don't want to be reminded of that.

I tend to find Matsuno's political/faction driven storylines more interesting and engaging than the standard fare.

They can provide an understandable framework for characters to react and develop without having to 'overreact' among themselves for motivation (I find most standard RPG interpersonal drama annoying, which is maybe why I can't really get into the persona games).
9  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: FFXII-like RPGs on: January 18, 2014, 06:01:11 PM
Honestly, outside of FFXII and Xenoblade about the only thing I can think of is Dragon Age which can be played sort of the same way, but emphasizes pause and play more.  There is a fully scriptable AI, though.

Actually Dragon Age does meet many of my requirements, but for some reason slipped my mind (already have it).

This style may be tough to find due to the ambitious nature of the game needed to pull it off.  So it's restricted to those rare games with a large budget and the willingness to break convention.
10  Media / Single-Player RPGs / FFXII-like RPGs on: January 17, 2014, 10:39:25 PM
I'll get this right out there, my favorite numbered Final Fantasy game is XII.

Some of the characters and plot points may have been shoehorned in, but I feel the environments and mechanics are brilliant.
It follows a MMO-inspired style, with real time party combat, aggro management, large ares and lots of content that crisscrosses back and forth so the entire world feels useful.

Based on the polarized reception and lack of comparable games mentioned in those inevitable arguments I had always though this was an isolated experiment, until I played Xenoblade for the first time today (got it on black friday for $24 on a whim for my WiiU).

I'm loving this as much as I did FFXII (though it does suffer from the lack of Gambits, ways to program your party's actions, or at least I haven't exposed them yet if they are there), and I'm wondering what else I've missed that has this same feel to it.

Are there any similar RPGs out there that are worth trying?

Generally I'm looking for the following features:
Real-time party battles with movement/positioning
Aggro management
Well-developed areas worth exploring and revisiting

On a side note, why have I never seen a comparison of FFXII and Xenoblade?  I would think the fervor that FFXII's combat system causes would carry over at least somewhat to Xenoblade as well since they are so similar.
11  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Western Fantasy Suggestions and Your Favorites on: January 16, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
I have 3 primary suggestions, depending on what you are looking for (sorry if they come a bit late):

#1 Neverwinter Nights 2.
It's somewhere between the older infinity engine rpgs and dragon age (DnD ruleset, 3d environments, not as technically advanced as dragon age, but that just means you can probably play it on your pc).
http://www.gog.com/game/neverwinter_nights_2_complete
If you get it, there is a massive body of addons to implement more features into the games and several very high quality modules available.

#2 Elder Scrolls (Skyrim probably, but oblivion is an option)
First person, but massive worlds, nearly no required narrative focus and lots of char creation aspects.  Both have massive worlds with lots to do to keep you busy.  Skyrim is more polished than oblivion, but moved to a more barren and norse oriented atmosphere rather than the classic fantasy that you may not like as much.
In both cases, if you get on pc there are a wealth of addons available to make gameplay more strategic (from smarter, more difficult enemies to controllable sidekicks and skills that require planning and placement such as traps).

#3 Kingdoms of Amalur
This game does a good job of scratching both my RPG and God of War itches at the same time, which would seem on first glance to be a difficult task.  Not especially strategic, but a well built (if very traditional) fantasy world with lots of customization and build features paired with fast combat and dodging make it something I keep going back to when I want to either kill stuff or soack up some atmosphere/lore.

12  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno. on: January 15, 2014, 03:06:54 PM
Given that FFXII was so fraught with executive meddling that two of the six playable characters were more or less shoehorned into the game, I'm willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt on this one.

/agree

I enjoyed FFXII, but then I didn't use Vaan or Penelo in my group and ignored them as much as possible.
The game structure showed a lot of promise and I would have loved to see what could have been done without meddling and had he not bowed out halfway.
13  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno. on: January 15, 2014, 12:10:18 AM
These things usually slow down once the hype dies a bit.  They're going to need to viral it a lot to keep up this same pace.  I'd say it seems like it'll meet the $600,000, but I'm not sure if it'll hit all stretch goals.  I'd be surprised if it even hit $1million, but that would certainly be a pleasant surprise if it did.

I think their prediction algorithm needs some work.

When I posted the link they said it was on track for 4.7 million, now it predicts 2.6 million.

So long as it hits 1.8 I'll be satisfied, the game would be happiest on my vita.
14  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno. on: January 14, 2014, 10:59:08 PM
Not sure how accurate this is, but it's apparently on track to pass all the stretch goals

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/482445197/unsung-story-tale-of-the-guardians/
15  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno. on: January 14, 2014, 05:08:44 PM
Thanks, jumped on it!

What timing too, I've just been replaying FFT again.
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