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Subject: Persona 3: FES
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Date: 3rd October 2014 Time: 16:00 EST
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841  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 14, 2013, 02:00:04 PM
I've been playing IS on hard as per community suggestion a page or two back.... I like the difficulty thus far...

I love hard games... sometimes I love brutally hard games.... but I like a certain type of difficult you might say.... when the brutality/difficulty is a result of chance/odds or trial and error I hate it.... when difficulty is a matter of requiring thought, preperation and (in RPG's cases) using another battle command other than attack I'm fine with it...

So far in IS, as I said, I like it on hard... but I appreciate the tip as I really can't see me enjoying the necessity to grind for tarot cards much.
842  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Round 5: Secret of Mana vs Kingdom Hearts on: March 14, 2013, 01:54:17 PM
i have no frame of reference here really because my KH experience is very limited.... but I really can't imagine me enjoying a game more than I did Secret of Mana.... I don't think I've replayed any game as many times as I have SOM... the degradation of the series in the sequels that followed the 16bit era is tragic to me...

I remember as a child playing zelda and thirsting for more.... then secret of mana came out and I felt as though I knew from then on exactly what I wanted in a game... to be honest it was THE title that made me realize how much joy I could really derive from gaming, co-op and fantasy.... I also remember when I saw the first screens of chrono trigger and how excited I became at the prospect of a mana sequel... despite the glory that was CT I was still disapointed it was not a mana sequel....

I just replayed both SOM and SD3 within the last year and love them all the same... I want to give kingdom hearts a go later this year with the HD release but I can safely say its not gonna trump mana for me... I would be a fool to take up any title while harboring such expectation...that and well.... I have a real aversion to disney... I really couldn't stand disney, even as a child (my parents told me I would cry as a baby whenever they would try to put on sesame street or disney flicks-LoL)
843  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 13, 2013, 02:02:25 PM
No, I meant that you should use a FAQ that tells which Persona is best to use in battle at that point in the story, rather than trying to choose a good one through trial and error, because some Persona have better synergy together which will help you learn Fusion spells to end battles quicker and more efficiently.

thank god..... you had me quite scared there... i don't believe in faqs, but if I needed specific persona to finish this then I would have to place my beliefs aside in this case.... I actually immediately went to find a spoiler free guide to persona fusing when I read that and stumbled on an image from persona 2 EP (a character portrait) I really didn't care to see.... thats why I don't like looking for/at guides... its not the info I'm looking for that spoils anything.... its always what you happen to come across in the process that proves problematic...

844  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 13, 2013, 01:12:06 PM
..... but damn.... the bomb shelter I just suffered through totally ranks as one of the most frustrating dungeons in recent history for me... i spent hours looking for the exit yesterday-LoL...... once again proving my title here appropriate

Is that the one in the basement of a school?  Because if so, I remember that and it's indeed very very terrible.  I hated that dungeon.  Too hard to see shit.

Yep, that would be the one alright....

If you don't like grinding for tarot card (I know I don't), do yourself a favor and use a FAQ to she which demons you should be fusing at specific points in the game to move things along faster. That's what I did with Innocent Sin and it made my play through much smoother and enjoyable.

am I to deduce from that statement that I actually need to fuse specific persona at points to advance in the story? the thought of that is.... frightening.....
845  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch on: March 12, 2013, 04:44:56 PM
I used Mitey all the way through the end of the regular game with no issues at all. Mitey is a pretty solid familiar, especially for one that is given to you from the get go.

I used mitey the whole game as well.... as I mentioned earlier in this thread, the game allows enough freedom to use any familiar you like really... in other words, you don't have to feel restricted to the most battle worthy combatants to (easily) make it through the whole title....  I leveled up and used a ton that were relatively worthless compared to those of my team that were more competent just because I thought they were cool/cute...

The wisp, the cog thing, the zombie, tyke's and a bunch of others all were in my party for good stretches.... mitey and the monkey never left my party from the beginning (love the monkey!!!).....

when times would get tough late game I'd call out my evolved kitty appropriately named Puhr along with a few other choice selections.... keeping two or 3 solid familiars in your group is plenty to allow you to look at the other slots as "just for fun" whilst still keeping the game pretty freakin' easy.....

so in short... my advice.... raise em cause you love em.... raise em because their movement speed and attack rate are fast making the gameplay in battle way more enjoyable.... but don't even bother feeling it necessary to judge them based on their individual statistical prowess unless you REALLY feel the need to make things extremely easy.
846  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: So finished FFXII....onto The Legend of Dragoon on: March 12, 2013, 04:21:46 PM


That said, my opinion on the matter is that LoD is basically Medieval Power Rangers the JRPG.

^^^^

Most appropriate summary of my impression of the title ever..... which also led to me consequentially putting it down and not caring to ever pick it back up loooong ago....

There will only ever be ONE set of power rangers worthy of my praise.... and if said cast doesn't include Jason David Frank playing Tommy Oliver I don't want anything to do with it!!

847  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch on: March 12, 2013, 04:16:51 PM
Before I got the game I was considering trying to platinum it but now that I've seen how long it can take to get some familiars I honrstly won't even try.
If there is one thing I can't put myself throught (for too long) is those infamous drop rates some games have. Luckily you don't need to care about it at all to enjoy the game, I'm just going out of my way to get 2 familiars from the beginning which are considered good for the end game since I learned Mitey gets pret bad pretty soon.

any trophies that rely on purely on odds... and in this case, bad odds... without any degree of real challenge beyond having the patience to deal with the tedium are a real turn off for me too....

I'm starting to think I may never get a platinum....
848  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 12, 2013, 04:10:33 PM
howlongtobeat.com lists the backlog/incomplete rate for P2 IS at 86 %.... staggering..... now I'm freakin' determined!!

I DECLARE TO YOU ALL NOW! I WILL FINISH THIS GAME BEFORE MOVING ON TO ANY OTHER RPG!!!! That includes any of my backlogs or my beloved hyperdimension V!!

..... but damn.... the bomb shelter I just suffered through totally ranks as one of the most frustrating dungeons in recent history for me... i spent hours looking for the exit yesterday-LoL...... once again proving my title here appropriate

EDIT: Howlongtobeat.com is ridiculous BTW..... almost all of there moderate or median runs (or whatever they call em...) of RPG's look like speed runs to me.... I think I play slow.... I always tend to be very thorough in my RPG's....
849  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch on: March 11, 2013, 07:42:38 PM
I'd just take a night to finish it and forget about the post-game stuff.  It does expand upon Horace a bit and a certain Wizard but if you have a backlog I think time is better served elsewhere unless you really want the trophies.

Oddly enough, I'm about to start up P2:IS as well.

I may actually take tonite and finish it up depending on when I get my tattoo done this evening... in regard to horace I was wondering when they were going finally reveal something about him! now I'm kinda stoked for the post game stuff.... I was going to try to platinum this actually..... that is, until i realized how much familiar recruiting it requires.... SCREW THAT!!

There must be SMT in the air or something.... as for IS i was almost turned off by the first few hours and the horrific gameplay... I'm glad I stuck with it though as it just seems to be getting more and more interesting the further in I get :)
850  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch on: March 11, 2013, 05:55:48 PM
Heh, I was somewhat in the same boat until I decided to test the idea if that's what it took.

On a related note, I'm doing post-game content and trying to get the trophy for unlocking all the merit awards.  It's just not worth it.  So much grinding it's ridiculous.  The alchemy quest is by far the worst and I ran around for 20-30 minutes and fought 3-4 of the required enemy, but never was able to steal the correct item.  It's just bad luck, but annoying none the less.

I think I may do the conductor quests since it leads to a gold and leave it at that.

^^^jealous^^^^

I have been saved in the final dungeon for about 3 days now.... got an Shin Megami Tensei itch and I knew if I finished Ni No right now I wouldn't even bother with the post game stuff in light of wanting to start persona 2 IS..... i think I will be tending to it within the next night or two though...
851  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 11, 2013, 05:34:56 PM
nocturne is another smt title I put down last year to play tales of graces F and thought I would never go back to... just didn't hook me in the 10 hours or so I put in.... but I feel quite different about it in hinesight....

both nocturne and devil summoner are two I care to pick back up... devil summoner more so then nocturne though... I REALLY couldn't stand the MC's appearance (way more raver then demon if you ask me...) and while I know that is stupid reason to be turned off by a title it bothered me something fierce!!

devil summoner on the other hand I think I am going to pick back up right after persona 2 IS if I am still in a SMT mood.... i only really put it down because I erroneously starting playing it at the same time as disgaea 4....

speaking of persona 2 IS.... i can't put my finger on it.... the gameplay is HORRIBLE.... but I really am starting to love this!... it is challenging in a strange way and the cast is great! in fact i think Michel may very well qualify to be one of all time favorite characters period (its still to early to say that for certain)....if only the battles went a wee bit quicker... that, and I can't help but feel I should be getting more persona cards... is it normal to be in the fourth dungeon and still using my starting persona on account of only having enough cards to get 1 new one thus far?

EDIT: one thing I must say though... I really wish I played persona 1 before playing IS.... it is quite I obvious to me that there is a lot of reference to it as well as returning characters.... with so much more of the SMT universe to explore though, I can't imagine I'll be getting to that one any time soon....
852  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch on: March 11, 2013, 03:40:48 PM
Hello

I felt kind of stupid last night, I had exchanged a few cards for those initial merit boosts and was saving my cards for later, thinking that the other ones opened up as the game progressed...

Well little did I know that you had to buy everything in the tier one line for the next teir 2 line to open up lol..

Anyway just thought I would mention this in case somebody else did this.

don't feel bad my friend.... i didn't figure that out until I was about 30 hours in-LoL
853  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 10, 2013, 03:53:24 PM
It's no secret that Innocent Sin was my favorite Playstation RPG, and the story/characters were a big reason.  I loved the music too (okay, except for Aoba Park.  Aoba Park's theme was better in Eternal Punishment). 

Actually, given how similar our taste in games seems to be, reading how much you loved IS is what made me want to play it so badly-LoL

Also, i feel like a jerk... within the first five minutes of playing today they already started eluding to the characters pasts and how they tie into their persona use.... glad I turned this back on today...

In truth I just have issues with everything on the shelf calling my name all at once right now for some reason... I am in the mood for SMT... so that is what I am doing... but I have sort of ignored how many games I have collected and not played until recently... the list is LONG (and exciting!!)... but that is another topic entirely.... i may have to hop over to "general discussion" and vent about it later, haha
854  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 10, 2013, 02:35:45 PM
With Innocent Sin, there are a lot of flashback scenes from when the cast were kids that will explain their affinity for personas and all of that. 

Yes!.... I wasn't really letting on, but in truth, that beginning REALLY BOTHERED me!! I honestly feared that nothing was going to be fleshed out any more beyond that (in regard to casts abilities and whatnot... I feared super-hero syndrome... for seemingly no reason, random people have crazy capabilities they use without question to combat evil..... big big turn off for this guy.....).. Thanks Dincrest :)

I really want to stick with IS..... I have put down way too many SMT titles after starting them and it bothers the piss out of me... and this one in particular I feel will prove real worthwhile.... Once again, the friendly motivation is of great utility to me guys! Thanks
855  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 10, 2013, 02:14:48 PM
Thank you both (Bleaker and Farron) for your input!!

That was totally what I needed to hear to pop this back in today (P2 Innocent Sin)... I REALLY want to enjoy the story, as I have been craving something a little different lately.... but damn.... the slow start had me regretting my decision a bit... And the way the story kicks off really disturbed me... with little to no explanation the main cast is WAAAAY too willing to accept being able to summon persona's, fight demons, and essentially just run off to save the day.... that and they never even touched upon how or why Michel could already summon his persona upon meeting him... I'll give it some more time before I decide whether or not I want to stick with it based on your motivating responses.... I gotta say though my backlogs or an xbox exclusive I haven't touched yet was looking much more appealing by the end of the night...

Now as for Overclocked, I am totally sold. Which really surprised me... thought it would have been the other way around (hooked on innocent sin instantly and on the fence about overclocked given my affinity for older 16 bit-32 bit era games) but "wow-ee"!!! Overclocked is just neat in a really fresh way to me. I really like the combination of tactics type gameplay with turn based classic RPG battles.

Maybe I am spreading myself too thin and should just focus on overclocked... I swear I have shin-megami-ADHD right now...... I woke up this morning thinking maybe I should give the beginning of Digital Devil Saga a shot before I commit or seeing if I can jump right on in at Devil Summoner 2 without having played through the first...... (i am not acting on those impulses by the way... something tells me it would just further muddy the waters at this point, LoL)
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