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General Discussions / Re: What's your Favourite Garbage Food?
« on: August 14, 2017, 05:41:13 PM »
Jalapeño Cheetos.

Seriously, they're addictive and complete trash.

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RPGFan: Forums / Re: Forum Upgrades and Changes
« on: August 09, 2017, 03:25:20 PM »
Yes. No Russians allowed.

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Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« on: August 09, 2017, 03:00:30 PM »
OK, if we're going to keep talking about this...

I feel like any attempt to define shounen/shoujo/seinen/josei beyond their most general (and literal) categories of being for boys/girls/men/women is doomed to fail.  Because there is a lot of variation within any of these categories, and different magazines even in the same category can have very different styles.

For example, Manga Time Kirara is a seinen magazine.  That's how it's classified and that's the category most of its readership falls into.  But I think you would be hard pressed to find a single series in that magazine that fits Hidoshi's definition of 'seinen' given above.  Manga Time Kirara focuses almost entirely on lighthearted moe stuff, mostly set in high school.  There is some romance, but also a lot of purely slice-of-life comedy style manga.  Probably the most famous manga to come out of it is K-On. 

Yes, K-On is seinen.

Technically it's because we're talking about two different perspectives on the terminology used. Seinen, when used by magazines, tends to mean a demographic. When used by creators, it means a genre. K-On is seinen because it's sold that way, but from a genre perspective it's definitively shoujo.

It's a continuing academic debate which perspective (genre vs demographic) should take precedent, especially as gender roles continue to break down and transform in today's markets. Some things like "BL" are obviously not demographic descriptors (they might fall under Jousei in many cases, but some can also be called Seinen if the demographic is gay), they're predominantly genre-focused, while others like shounen can be used either way.

Kirara is a seinen manga magazine, this is true, but it's a specific kind of seinen, meant to appeal to a subdemographic associated with certain emotional or visual fetishes, for lack of a better term. Conversely, Shounen Jump has featured plenty of non-shounen genre titles  (City Hunter, a decidedly Seinen  genre series comes to mind), but its general demographic is shounen.

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RPGFan: Forums / Re: Forum Upgrades and Changes
« on: August 09, 2017, 02:53:22 PM »
Update: We'll likely be transitioning to phpBB at some point in the near future. I'm currently looking for bridging solutions so we don't lose anything.

Reasons: SMF is slowly being deprecated even in its 2.x format, and their 2.1 beta is emerging very, very slowly. As a result, it's starting to feel like we have to move on. phpBB has kept pace with modern standards and has a wider library of theme and plugin options available to us, as well as a Wordpress bridge should that become a need in future.

It won't happen immediately, but probably towards the end of the year. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up!

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Anime, TV, and Movies / Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« on: August 09, 2017, 12:05:20 PM »
I guess here's where I confess I don't actually know what shoujo or 98% of the terms are involving manga are (compared to JRPGs which were there from the beginning)

Basically I know some major series and lesser known ones as well as the series themselves and associated fandoms decently but I have pretty much zero context for the A&M industry as a whole.

Shonen is stuff like Dragon Ball Z, One Piece, Power Levels etc. Basically stuff aimed at young boys ages 8-15. (etc...)

Some slight corrections:

Shounen – Primarily aimed at a young male audience between 8-12 and 12-18, depending on the show. Tends to have a lot of coming-of-age stories, fighting anime, etc. Good examples include My Hero Academia, Naruto, One Piece, Mobile Suit Gundam, and Black Butler.

Shoujo – Primarily aimed at a young female audience between 8-12 and 12-18, depending on the show. Tends to have a lot of coming-of-age stories, romance anime, etc. Good examples include Ouran High School Host Club, Fruits Basket, My Love Story, Vampire Knight, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Sailor Moon.

Seinen is generally for older audiences. Classically "for men", but rarely has a gendered execution now. Usually focuses on "work" anime, some typically more violent or sexual shows, sci-fi, as well as more serious romance or drama. Good examples include KADO: The Right Answer, One Punch Man, ERASED, Monster, Ghost in the Shell, and Maison Ikkoku.

Jousei is generally for older audiences. Classically "for women", but tends to just emphasize more romance or "gentle" stories over action or sci-fi based ones. Usually focuses on more "college age" or "art" anime. Good examples include Chihaya Furu, Honey and Clover, Paradise Kiss, Nodame Cantabile, and Polar Bear Café.

Shounen-Ai is a deprecated term that used to mean gay romance stories. It's since been replaced with Boy's Love or "BL" as a more appropriate term, as "shounen-ai" has pedophiliac connotations in Japanese. BL may or may not have explicit sex involved, but typically gears towards gay romance as a whole. Good examples include Junjou Romantica, Loveless, Gravitation, and  Super Lovers.

Shoujo-Ai is a non-Japanese native term that is generally only used in the West. It was meant as a genre companion to Shounen-Ai but originated here and never caught on in Japan. Most of its content is filed under "Yuri". That said, because we are in the West, it's essentially the BL equivalent but for lesbian romance. Good examples include Kämpfer, Sakura Trick, Strawberry Panic, and Maria-sama ga Miteru.

Yuri encompasses both Shoujo-Ai and a bit more. It's a catch-all for lesbian-oriented stories, including both implied and explicit forms. It may be pornographic in some cases, but is usually used to refer to non-pornographic stories. It's a bit murky in that regard. Any recommendations under Shoujo-Ai are here as well. In terms of harder erotic stories, Shoujo Sect, G-Taste, and Cream Lemon may all apply.

Yaoi is a component of BL anime, but focuses on the harder erotic stories, often including pornography. Yaoi is generally understood to imply a harder form of sexual depiction overall. Good examples of this harder genre turn include Ai no Kusabi, Sex Pistols, and Saigo no Door wo Shimero.

Hentai – Pornography, and all that it entails.

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Single-Player RPGs / Re: Persona 5
« on: May 10, 2017, 10:44:16 PM »
I'm loving P5 so far (problematic stuff aside), largely because it feels like Persona 4 met up with Digital Devil Saga and had a baby.

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Single-Player RPGs / Re: Suikoden 5
« on: April 06, 2017, 10:54:33 AM »
It's my fave after Suikoden II. In fact, it has some of the best characters in the series (like anyone from Raftfleet) and some amazing music.

I want more Suikoden, damnit.

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RPGFan: Forums / Re: 'Likes' taking a long time to load
« on: March 25, 2017, 09:07:54 PM »
Currently assuming it's the script firing slowly. I'll see what I can do. :)

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With exceptions, I kinda feel that way about turn-based....
C'est la vie.

Turn based combat requires me to think. Holding the pwn button till i win and occasionally holding square to dodge is brain dead.

That's a very subjective experience, though. Action-based combat requires tactical thinking, where Turn-based requires strategic thinking. They're different, and I think it's ridiculous to frame one as thoughtful and the other as "brain-dead".

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RPGFan: Forums / Re: Linking Bug
« on: January 17, 2017, 10:18:38 PM »
Weird. Try now?

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RPGFan: Forums / Re: Linking Bug
« on: January 17, 2017, 02:14:56 PM »
These should all work now.

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RPGFan: Forums / Re: Linking Bug
« on: January 17, 2017, 01:43:07 PM »
Looking into it. Thanks for the note!

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Single-Player RPGs / Re: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (no not X)
« on: January 16, 2017, 04:40:08 PM »
@Aeolus – I think the little winglets only came out in Xenosaga, actually. The Zohar in Xenogears appears to just be a golden monolith with an eye.

See: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/xenosaga/images/2/21/Zohar.png/revision/latest?cb=20080817162918

vs:

http://lparchive.org/Xenogears-(by-The-Dark-Id)/Update%20136/10-EXISTENCE17.jpg

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Single-Player RPGs / Re: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (no not X)
« on: January 16, 2017, 02:13:53 PM »
Anyone else catch that the gem bits on a lot of folks/the Monado-esque sword are in the same shape as the "Zohar" relics from Xenosaga?

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The Helper Monkey / Re: SMT Question
« on: January 12, 2017, 12:57:06 PM »
The association comes from certain Buddhist writers using "mara" as a stand-in for having an erection or becoming aroused. The SMT folks decided to render that, literally.

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