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Subject: Persona 3: FES
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Date: 3rd October 2014 Time: 16:00 EST
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661  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Atelier Ayesha on: March 18, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
...I like the original Atelier formula and all, but anyone ever wish they'd try the more RPG-oriented route again like they did for Iris??  I mean that insofar of a more in-depth battle system and bigger emphasis on story/world than characters.
I frequently wish they would, but then again I absolutely love Gust's non-Atelier games and am only meh on the traditional Atelier games(although I am currently playing Totori and so far it seems at least slightly better than the others I have played).
662  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: March 15, 2013, 07:20:32 AM
And for the latest postgame Paralogue, you're going to want to bring a Rescue Staff or two for a chain transfarriing or somebody sturdy with 12 move to get to the new recruit before she gets horribly murdered again because she'll be hamburger by the second enemy phase. The village gives you one but getting it costs a turn and you're still going to need to bring the designated staff user in range and hopefully out of the way of the Dark Fliers (or take care of them first). So unless you have somebody with ridiculous Mag (hope to god Miriel, Maribelle, or Brady can use staves) you're going to have to rush your Rescue staff user to the front lines.

Oh that would have been a strategy. >.> I ended up using one rescue staff to pull her out and then just placed my entire army around her in a defensive formation using a healer to keep her alive from the long range attacker. Meanwhile Donnel took out the entire western forces by himself (armshift+legendary axe=awesome) as the eastern forces got shattered on the rest of my army. Took a couple of tries before I got it down.

So anyone done Em's supports yet? I feel like those have to be extremely akward (especially S rank) considering she seems to have gotten some brain damage from her fall (which is honestly getting off light considering what she apparently survived). Kind of sucks that there are no supports between her and Chrom. Kind of applies to all the spotpass characters actually.
663  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: March 12, 2013, 07:05:48 AM
Finished Kingdom Hearts 3D over the weekend. Game was alright, still don't like Flowmotion. Best part of it was the promise of Kingdom Hearts 3.

Also finished the story mode of Persona 4 Arena.

Going to get to start Heart of the Swarm later today after I get it in the mail. Very unsure of what I expect with the story line as the trailers I have seen are not filling me with hope. >.>
664  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: March 10, 2013, 08:46:49 AM
So I finally think I decided on my (canon) pairings for my final playthrough(which is a while away).

Chrom x Olivia(Pegasus Knight + Myrmidon for Olivia and Rightful King for Inigo)

Lissa x Libra(Magic sword based Owain)

Maribelle x Gregor(Brady with Galeforce and Armshift...plus makes sense)

Sully x Vaike(One of the few pairings where Vaike gives Mercenary, and hence Armshift)

Sumia x Henry(....It was either Henry or Frederick and Cynthia seems better suited as a mage or something)

Cordellia x Lon'qu(Cordellia is my favorite female and Lon'qu is one of my favorite males....plus the stats should end up fairly nice)

Cherche x Stahl(Eh, I like Stahl and there aren't really too many other options....truthfully probably won't use Gerome too much since he will lack either Galeforce or Armshift)

Panne x Frederick(Highest str of the options that were left when deciding on her)

Miriel x Ricken(High mag?....and I really don't care about the Miriel pairing)

Tharja x Donnel(Galeforce + Armshift, enough said)

Nowi x Gaius(Galeforce and I like the C and B supports I saw for this pair)

Now to just wait for nearly all the DLC to come out so I can get to work on the getting all support conversations!.....even the redudant ones!
665  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: March 03, 2013, 08:14:50 AM
I suppose that if you think about it Plegia never really fell in the alternate timeline due to the fact that in both timelines the Grima cult takes over and the main divergence only happens during the showdown against Validar. I suppose that with Emm dead the Plegians had their fill of bloodshed and decided to pack it in and go home. Alternatively, they probably also took the Fire Emblem which still lead Chrom to run over and kick their collective asses to get it back. There's also the possibility that crap like the Risen weren't popping up all over the place which meant that Ylisse wasn't getting its ass handed to it while duking it out with Plegia since the gate didn't open until after all hell broke loose in alternaverse. In any case though, I doubt that there's anything that'll cover it. The game's plot feels more like the Android Saga from DBZ rather than the usual fare and the overall lack of details isn't helping matters either.

And likewise, we can only assume that the whole point to Lucina jumping into the ring was to kill time before the assassination attempt while serving as an excuse to feature at least one arena in this game (unless she was trying to get Basilio to become Ferox's Khan in some halfbaked attempt at keeping him from getting killed during the Valm campaign).
Yeah I suppose that all works. Incidently, I just thought of the biggest plot hole of the game though. Lucina mentions when fighting Chrom in the arena that her father taught her to fight.....but following the timeline of the game she was still an infant when Chrom died and actually her sibling hadn't been born yet. I wonder if perhaps Lucina/the risen's interference sped the events up. However Wallace's invasion should of happened at the same time since it was beginning before Lucina's invasion. I suppose Grima's rise could of been delayed since Chrom didn't gather all the gems for the Fire Emblem(which I assume were all necessary), so it took nearly two decades for Grima's followers to get all the necassary gems. *shrug*[/spoiler]
666  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: March 02, 2013, 07:50:39 AM
They will, with a set within the second round of DLC.

But the tl;dr on timeline changes caused by Lucina involved Validar not dying at all instead of dying (alternate Avatar unchanges this by bringing alternate Validar along to take his place), Chrom receiving a flesh wound during Emelina's assassination instead of being uninjured (which in turn lets him gain more experience to promote and/or reclass), Basilio dying instead not quite dying against Walhart (which lets him bullshit the Fire Emblem back from Validar), and Chrom doesn't get better immediately after Avatar turns on him.
I know that is what the game states are the differences in the war, but I feel like there are a few more that are fairly significant. For example, Em died in a drastically different location. Part of the reason for Chrom's victory in the war against.....the evil country(cannot remember its name atm) was that Em basically completely destroyed the enemy morale with her death because it was public and "moving" to the enemy country. So the war should have had some kind of differences there in addition to the campaign to rescue Em from being captured not occuring altering the flow of the war. I mean I can probably think of other instances, but that is the one which really bugs me.

Side note, I still don't get what Lucina's plan was when she became Basilo's champion early in the dame. Seems like that would make her hom country's defeat occur that much faster.

My thoughts on Morgan in picture form:

Not how time travel works in the game. :p
667  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: March 01, 2013, 06:44:41 AM
[color=black]I think that's the reason it is implied that Morgan doesn't come from the same timeline as the other kids. She came from a timeline brought around my the Avatar fucking children that aren't born yet.

Oh and to answer a question, since my Avatar was male and there are no gay relationships (boo). Lucina just regards you as her fathers close friend, who betrayed him. I'm curious to see how that scenario plays out now if the avatar is her mother. [/color]

Yeah I know that they imply that Morgan comes from a different timeline than the rest of the kids.....I still think that her background doesn't make too much sense.  I mean I guess she probably comes from a timeline where she didn't come back in time and where Grima was still defeated. But that makes it feel like her presence was completely unnecessary.

On a semi-related note, I do wish that they had gone into a little bit mroe detail about how events had played out in the original timeline. I am really wondering what events were changed by Lucina's presence etc.
668  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: March 01, 2013, 06:37:07 AM
I'm up to the final bosses in Kingdom Hearts 3D.....and oh wow do I hate the battle system in this game. I'm constantly finding myself dying because the game is not responding as quickly as I want it to. I really just need to grind to an obscene level so I can just obliterate these jerks. >.>
669  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: February 28, 2013, 06:41:24 AM
So I beat this over the weekend, and I'm really impressed by the sheer number of possibilities in dialogue based on who you pair together. I paired my female avatar with Chrom, which seems like the most "canon" route to go, but I'm curious as to how several scenes would've gone if I had paired people differently, like:

- What if my avatar wasn't Lucina's mother? How would she have spoken to me during the scene where she tried to kill me?
- How would Chrom have reacted to the idea that I might have to sacrifice myself to seal Grima away?
- How would the cutscene following Gangrel's defeat transpired if Chrom was paired with someone else? Or not paired with anyone at all?
- Morgan is the Avatar's child, right? It's unusual that the female avatar has two children when paired with Chrom.

-Can't say.....my avatar married her. I noticed a couple of lines which specifically mentioned their relationship, but it didn't seem like too many of the lines were specific to the actual relationship.
-He considers you his best friend and doesn't want you to sacrifice yourself.
-Depends, I believe the scene plays out exactly the same if Chrom has an S rank relationship at the time already. I believe that if he less than that then there is a proposal scene to the female with the highest support(which is probably slightly different depending on the bride). If he has no support points with any female then he marries a random village girl giving Lucina worse growths. Don't know if there is a scene for this or not.
-Every female has two kids if paired with Chrom. Every 1st gen female also has two kids if paired with male avatar. Although it is much more fun to pair avatar with a second gen character so that it makes no sense where the heck Morgan comes from.
670  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: February 25, 2013, 06:53:24 AM
Beat Fire Emblem Awakening yesterday. It now gets put onto the to 100% later pile as I wait for the Bonds DLC to come out to speed up support grinding (in several months).

In the mean time, I am focusing on Kingdom Hearts 3D. Currently on my second visit to Traverse Town. I'm actually sort of used to the battle system now(I think, alternatively I'm overleveled enough that it doesn't matter either way), but I really can't say that it is one of my favorites of the series.
671  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: February 21, 2013, 07:59:58 AM
I still don't really grasp a lot of stuff having not ever played a fire emblem.... class advancing, pairing selection et cetera...... I just don't get it (though I imagine as I delve a little deeper it will make more sense or become more thoroughly explained.... I hope).
Class advancing is pretty easy. You can use a master seal on a character over level 10(unless they are in a special class like villager, dancer, or a shape changing class) t advance to an advanced class. In most cases it is best to use the master seal at level 20, at least for the first class change. You can also use second seals to change to different class tress, but that is not necessary to get characters strong enough to beat the game with.

Pairing is.....not really explained in the game. It also only exists in one other Fire Emblem (which does not have an official english release), so having played the others wouldn't help you much there. Quick version is that kids inherit classes and stat growths fom parents along with the last skill that each parent has before you enter the chapter to recruit the kid......long version is go to this page to read up on it: http://www.serenesforest.net/fe13/children.html

Edit: Wait unless you meant the pairing up as in putting two units together on the battlefield.....Forgot about that system. You can get a detailed explanation of that system here: http://www.serenesforest.net/fe13/double.html
672  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Fire Emblem 3DS on: February 18, 2013, 06:55:55 AM
Pairing for my first playthrough:

Chrom- Sumia
Lissa- Henry
Loivia- Donnel
Maribelle- Ricken
Sully- Fredrick
Cordellia- Kellam
Cherche- Virion
Avatar- Lucina(I really hope where the Morgan from this pairing comes from gets some explanation at some point)
Panne- Stahl
Miriel- Vaike(because I just don't care about either)
Tharja- Lon'qu
Nowi- Gregor

A lot of these were just sort of "whatever" choices as I decided midway through my playthrough to not get all supports so I just wanted to get the children paralogues opened up quickly so I could get my first playthough finished. Somewhat dreading my second and third playthroughs atm. Second one will be for getting all female avatar conversations and third will be for getting all supports....pretty much period. The gods of grinding had better be smiling upon me when I get to my third playthough. x_x Not going to get to starting those until nearly all of the Spotpass stuff is out though.

Also so far, the character conversations haven't been nearly as interesting as anything I've seen in other games with skits. This game gets a bit of a pass, I suppose, since there's so many of them, but at least up to A rank I haven't really felt like I've read anything... interesting, between some of my characters. As a gameplay mechanic they're great and give me SOMETHING to personify the people, but I have to say once I got over the initial awesomeness of the presentation, I feel like I'm reading a Saturday-morning cartoon.
Eh some of them are actually interesting, such as Lon'qu and Thraja where you finally learn why Lon'qu has a "phobia" of women. You just have some which are just there for the purpose of being there(such as anything involving Miriel). Also I seem to recall that one of the Fire Emblems had support conversations worse than these.....I want to say it was Radiant Dawn where most of them were basically just generic conversations, but I can't recall for sure.
673  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: February 18, 2013, 06:38:42 AM
Currently switching between Fire Emblem and Kingdom Hearts 3D. So far I like Fire Emblem more, but I am holding off on the inevitable major grind fest for all supports until some more of the DLC comes out so that I can grind for an unnecessary unstoppable force of destruction at the same time.

I'm findign Kingdom Heart's controls a little bit less inuitive than in the other games in the series because it is a little harder for me to between the "control" stick and the D-pad on the 3DS than on a PS2 controller or heck even a PSP. Oh well I'll manage somehow or another.

Bought Golden Sun Dark Dawn for $10 brand new.  Woo!!

Makes me wonder why Camelot has been damned to making shitty Mario spin offs and not Golden Sun 4 and finish the story.

Burned out on Fire Emblem, hooking people up takes a lot of work.  Henry is awesome for chats.
I have to say....you overpaid for Dark Dawn. Maybe I am just being harsh, but I really did not like that game. I found it to be incredibly boring and was not interested in the plot(which I have already completely forgotten other than you control children) in the slightest. I now dread the possibility of ever replaying Golden Sun 1 or 2 in fear that they may have been just as bad and my high school self was just unable to properly judge quality. >.>
674  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Feelings towards FAQ's and guides on: February 18, 2013, 06:22:02 AM
I feel no shame in using a guide if I am trying to get 100% in a game and don't feel like wasting my time hunting for something down(which is most games for me). Even when I don't use a guide, I still tend to skim a game's message boards for any easily missable stuff. Actually about the only time I don't have an FAQ open for quick reference is if the game is too new to have one(which with my game backlog at the moment rarely happens). I just don't have the time to mess around like I did during college and law school. >.>
675  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Persona 4 Golden for the Vita. on: February 18, 2013, 06:17:05 AM
Add me to the list of people who have bought it and have yet to play it. I do intend to play it......but I need to buy a Vita first. x_x Also once I own a Vita, it will be fairly low on my backlog list since I have beaten it twice so it will take a a while until I get to it. I just got it at release for the Golden Edition bonuses.
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