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Subject: Persona 3: FES
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Date: 3rd October 2014 Time: 16:00 EST
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526  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 21, 2013, 05:23:46 PM
The story in Persona 3 always felt weird and disjointed.  The Social Links and the story segments (basically monthly set-pieces in dungeons that take about 10 minutes apiece to run through) are totally separate and those monthly set-pieces seem totally separate from Tartarus until January.  Hell, Tartarus is basically optional until January, even though the game encourages you to hit those checkpoints before each full moon. 

In Persona 4 the narrative is more closely tied into the dungeon crawl, and the rescue deadlines add a great deal more urgency to it all.  Social Links and basic plot serve each other a little better because there are more plot-important S.Links to be found (namely the Dojimas and your party members).  I think that preferences about the plot and characters of P3 and P4 are totally subjective, but P4 is absolutely the better game because of its more interconnected narrative framework, dungeons, and Social Links. 

And to chime in on the earlier conversation, I don't care if Persona 5's story is darker or not.  I don't think a story's "darkness" is as important as interesting character struggles, good dialog, and a pace that serves the gameplay.  I'm *extremely* pumped for Persona 5 and it will be a day-one purchase if it comes out for a system I own (*crossing fingers for PS3 & Vita cross-play*), but I could care less about it having a darker tone. 
527  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 21, 2013, 02:25:34 PM
You can get FES for $10 PSN. The small additions like taking your dog for a walk are great, but The Answer is brutal. Some neat story stuff, but it's just an ugly grind. I' e only played it for two hours and I'm not sure I'll ever finish.
528  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Transistor-The latest from the people who brought you Bastion on: March 20, 2013, 12:09:57 AM
I was glad to hear about this one.  Bastion had a lot going for it, and I'll definitely pick this one up as soon as it's on PC. 
529  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: What's your criteria when choosing a starter Pokemon? on: March 18, 2013, 12:52:17 AM
If that's the case then Water/Fighting is the most appealing by a long shot.  Anyhow, I usually get the Grass starter because it fills some holes in a normal attack profile that aren't fulfilled by my other favorite attacking types (Ground, Fighting, Rock, Dark, and Ice).  I always have a team with those five skills on it, and a good Grass starter is a great solution to taking on a Water. 
530  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Who publishes your games this gen? on: March 17, 2013, 09:27:17 PM
I'll bite.  I own 43 PS3 games, 8 Wii games, and 3 XBox 360 games.  Some disclaimers: I'm mostly a PSP/PS2/PS3 gamer, and I've only owned the Wii for a year.  I'm currently borrowing my friend's 360 while he's in Europe for at least 2 years, and I've had that about four months.  He gave me two games for keeps (he didn't want them so I bought him lunch for them) and I bought one I really wanted to play.  Here's the breakdown:

PS3 - 43 games total
Sony - 17 games
EA, Bandai Namco, Atlus, and WB Games - 3 games each
Capcom, Ubisoft, Activision, and NISA - 2 games each
THQ, Konami, 2K Games, Take 2, Square-Enix, and Sega - 1 game each

Wii - 8 games total
Nintendo - 5 games
XSEED - 2 games
Bandai Namco - 1 game

XBox 360 - 3 games
2K Games, Bandai Namco, and Capcom - 1 game each

If I had gone into my PS1, PS2, GameCube, PSP, and DS collections, there would be MUCH more representation from Square-Enix and Capcom.  But I wanted to stick to the spirit of the topic and do those "big three" consoles of this past generation.

I'm not going to count through my PC collection of games because ffffffff.
531  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: March 13, 2013, 11:46:12 PM
Persona 4 - unlocked Void Quest.  Waiting until a day without much to do before I challenge it. 

Hexyz Force - I randomly played around 4 or 5 hours this week.  9th party member joined, completing a tripling of the number of party members in a one-hour span.  I think I'm in the final dungeon. 
532  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast Thread on: March 12, 2013, 10:54:32 AM
If you guys record a future pod in such a manner so as to get me passed out by the 30-minute mark, I won't judge. If I survive.
533  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: March 10, 2013, 08:53:41 PM
The four Thorney Towers levels in Psychonauts deserve spaces in the Platforming Stages Pantheon.  If there is one. 
534  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: March 07, 2013, 10:59:28 PM
Decided to pick up Hexyz Force again (stopped halfway through when I was playing it last fall because... of Okami HD I think?).  Well, it's... likeable but maybe not special?  It's an RPG-ass RPG.  I'm on board. 
535  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Podcast Thread on: March 07, 2013, 02:13:51 PM
Trying to come up with drinking games for a few of my podcasts.  Here's what I got so far for RPGFan's:

1. Drink when someone comments on Square-Enix in a "how the mighty have fallen" context
2. Drink when someone brings up Diablo III or Dark Souls and subsequently gets shut down (thus, not relevant for legitimate news about either game)
3. Finish your beer when Rob mentions putting off playing Shadow Hearts
4. Drink whenever Rob says "explore" wistfully

Any other suggestions?
536  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: March 07, 2013, 06:47:49 AM
I have a job interview in a little over two weeks for something that's not necessarily my dream job, but close.  It's in the same county government system where I currently work, but It's more appropriate to my degree, it's at a better department/office with a better chance for upward mobility, and its base pay is around $15,000 a year more than what I currently make.  For the first time in four years, I'm going to spend most of my free time studying. 
537  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: March 05, 2013, 12:20:45 PM
I liked God of War III quite a bit, but I'd agree that the violence is too much.  God of War III was good because: they finally figured out a balanced weapon/magic/skill system (4 cool main weapons similar enough to not be dominated by the Blades but different enough to be interesting, 4 neat magic attacks, an awesome "rage meter" weapon, and 3 serviceable sub-weapons); the massive scale and surprisingly contiguous nature of the environments was downright stunning; and even if the violence was a little over the top, it was satisfying and a little cathartic to murder the Greek pantheon that had been sticking it to Kratos since the beginning of God of War II.  The best death scene was definitely Poseidon right near the beginning. 

I think that God of War II is the best of the bunch, because it had the most interesting mid-game, the best boss fights, and a decent angle with the whole revenge of the Titans business.  The first God of War was good because it established the formula and got things rolling and the third God of War was good because of what I said in that first paragraph.  It's a great trilogy with one decent PSP game, one sub-par PSP game, and a totally unnecessary upcoming prequel. 

Oh yeah, this isn't the God of War topic.  Whoops.  I'm playing Psychonauts and Persona 4. 
538  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Megami Tensei Topic on: March 04, 2013, 07:01:28 AM
Damn.  Nothing suits Yu like a suit.  I wish I had a Vita....
539  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Round 4: Dragon Quest III vs. Final Fantasy III on: March 03, 2013, 10:50:13 PM
Dragon Quest III is one of the most popular games in the series.  It can only be considered "among the lesser-played" when it comes to more recent fans of the series.  

I think FF III is perfectly charming, but DQ III is the clear winner here.  Both games are a little clumsy in their class change systems, but FF's is more fluid and DQ's is more slow-moving.  Then when you examine the story (DQ III is one of the most epic tales on the NES, period) and quest design (orbs! vs.... surprise oceans?) DQ pulls ahead.  

~Maybe Some Spoilers~

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And then you have the worst part of FF III compared to maybe the best part of DQ III - the endgame.  In FF III, you have to complete multiple consecutive dungeons with six bosses in quick succession, with no good save opportunity anywhere in that midst.  The bits with Doga, Unei, and Xande are kinda neat, and the "lend us your power" plot point might be a seminal moment for the Final Fantasy series, but it doesn't rescue the FF III endgame from sucking.  It's archaic and dumb and only masochists and oldschool-elists defend it.  

Dragon Quest III has a hella-cool final sequence of events: traveling to the world of Dragon Quest I, finding the Sword of Kings, *almost* rescuing your missing father before defeating Zoma, and making the connection that you are Loto the Hero.  Every part of it is awesome, and Zoma is one of the more badass Maou / Archfiends in the series.
 

~End Spoilers~

So, bottom line, after going on for WAY too long, Dragon Quest III is way better than Final Fantasy III.  it wasn't until the SFamicom/SNES games where Final Fantasy has a title run superior to Dragon Quest's games of the same period.  
540  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: The NEW Game Journal on: March 02, 2013, 01:31:04 PM
I'm disappointed in myself.  Due 90% to poor planning and 10% due to a few s.link dialog mistakes, there's no way I can get max S.Links in this playthrough of Persona 3.  Four links remaining, but there aren't enough school days remaining in the year to do them.  Too many vacation days in December and January.  I'll have to settle for a full Compendium (minus Orpheus Telos) thanks in part to my previous run.  After this I might try The Answer, but I'm not sure I want to. 

Given how ambiguous some of the reactions were to answers during S Links, I did them with a guide.  I think I'm being smart and supportive, someone gets offended.  I mean, what the fuck, is telling someone to give up on their dream bad when it's causing them pain, heartache, and ruining their lives meanwhile?  I'm just trying to help!!
Sometimes I think it's hilarious (like when Kazushi responds positively to "stop whining like a little bitch" and negatively to "maybe you should try not to explode your knee"), and other times it's just damn frustrating (like when I try to say anything at all to Mitsuru).  I know it's supposed to reflect their personalities, but sometimes it's too unpredictable.  My major mistake was waiting too late to start any of those time-consuming girlfriend links and using early school days on some out-of-school links like Hanged Man and Hierophant.  Next time, and there WILL be a next time, I'll know what to do.  And might have to use a guide. 
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