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16  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Y's fans- I need your help on: April 10, 2014, 03:37:22 PM
Ys I and II Chronicles - PSP(by extension Vita because backwards compatibility) or PC(same as psn version with slighly better features)
Ys Oath In Felghana - PSP or vita for voice acting and more room to customize the difficulty, PC for 60fps goodness.
Ys Cekceta - Vita
Ys Ark of Napishtim - Definitely PC version, import a JPN copy and apply the fan translation patch, it has all the original stuff, 60 fps, better graphics and it's the ultimate way to play this game. The ps2 version is acceptable but it has slight input delay and you have to activate the original opening by using cheat codes before the game starts.
Ys Origin - PC exclusive, get it on steam.
Ys Seven - PSP or vita.

My recommended order of playing (if you don't have problems with old school games) - Ys I and II chronicles - Ys Origin - Ys Oath in Felghana - Ys Seven - Ys Celceta - Ys Ark of Napishtim
Otherwise: Ys Oath in Felghana - Ys Seven - Ys Origin - Ys I and II - Ys Celceta - Ys ark of Napishtim.

Oath in Felghana, Origin and Seven are the highlight of the series, I and II is absolutely fantastic if you enjoy old school games too. Celceta is excellent and Napishtim is merely good.
Can't speak for Ys V as I havent played it yet but there is a fan translation available.

Also just a friendly reminder, Ys has no apostrophe.
17  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: April 08, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
I read them :p
18  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: A Game Journal Reborn on: April 08, 2014, 05:23:49 PM
Auto life anyone?
19  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: KINGDOM HEARTS 3 & FINAL FANTASY XV at E3 on: April 08, 2014, 09:45:06 AM
Hey, I know there's not a whole lot of money in publishing RPG's, but that's the whole point. Not every game should need to sell millions of copies to be profitable. Games like Bravely Default won't lead to fame and fortune, but they have a loyal, build-in audience. Not just in Japan, but all over the world. This is something Square Enix figured out 20 years ago but somehow forgot.




Yeah sure but I feel like their statement is more PR talk than actual honesty.
20  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: KINGDOM HEARTS 3 & FINAL FANTASY XV at E3 on: April 08, 2014, 07:21:53 AM
Tomara..  I believe you are being overly dramatic about this.
Bravely Default only showed them the viability of Niche JRPG's to be made and localized, it didn't make them a fortune or anything.
21  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: April 07, 2014, 06:15:35 PM
So, I've been thinking in stopping linking and sharing a lot of the stuff I've found lately about LR in this thread since this whole deal is just going circles (again). And honestly is not really worth my time posting something with a big chunk of info like I planned to do only for someone to come here and get the entire thread trapped in a paradox yet again.

Isn't the point of you posting stuff to generate discussion?
You posted that blog a while ago and that generated discussion.. wtf man lol..

What's the point of you posting stuff if nobody will say anything about it? I don't think the discussion was harmful in any way, both parties benefited from it. If you have an issue with people voicing their minds why are you on forums anyway?

I like you better when you don't act like a scarred defeated man.
22  Media / The Soundroom / Re: Random VGM on: April 07, 2014, 10:35:51 AM
Goddamn.. Why wasnt music like this in LoS instead of generic western big orchestra sound.
Pachislot Akumajō Dracula - Trezire de Spirit

I love Castlevania for the high energy, power inducing or atmospheric melodies and LoS completely ditched that away. Im a butthurt fan but I will stll give those games a chance.
I can't believe they reduced this masterpiece to a motherfuckin slot game.
23  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: A Game Journal Reborn on: April 07, 2014, 06:28:59 AM
Re Summon icons in the turn bar: You can blame Belgemine for that one. Not that you can have the same summon out at the same time, but let's blame her anyway because I lost the first battle against her because she gets Ifrit and I'm stuck with Valefor.

Sound logic, i always appreciate and give a thorough ear to your posts Sir Starmongreggory.

EDIT: BEAT SEYMOUR WITH POISON.  FUCK YOU MENG.

Your FF X impressions are hilarious and that as they say is that!
24  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: April 07, 2014, 06:13:19 AM
I am not an apologist. I like what I like and I am not afraid to defend what I like regardless of the status quo. I don't love things blindly I might add, I am no fanboy either. This applies to anything, XIII is just an example.
And I think you overrate how much I like FF XIII xD. 999/VLR are FARRRRRRRRRRRRRR superior(it's a completely different tier of experience). And for clarification my FF rankings would be as follows 7 > 10 > 9=8 > 6 = 13-2(though I tend to give 6 the edge) > LR = 4 > 12=5=13 > 2 > 1.
I don't dislike any of them and even with 1 at the bottom I like it quite a bit and as you see the 13 games are not that high. I just can't relate to the hyperbolic negativity, that's all, I enjoy many aspects of the XIII games even if they are not perfect but I tend to look for reasons to enjoy something and not the other way around.

Apologies man. The way you worded your previous post sounded like you were calling anyone who didn't like the XIII's trilogy's plot stupid.

What I meant with that part is that when many times I see people justifying their hate for the story of FF XIII(or why they think the story is fundamentally a piece of shit with no place for objection which is the type of mindset that drives me nuts) , they say things that directly contradict plot points and/or character motivations(not saying it's always the case but one big example is how many people follow Spoony's review of the game when that review is so idiotic, one of his biggest points is "All the characters had to do was nothing" and that point only shows how shortsighted his "analysis" is, if you want me to explain why that quote is retarded I will gladly do so). Making their hate seem as dumb as they claim the game is. I am speaking generally here, fortunately this website is full of awesome people that have tact in sharing their thoughts. Also as you see, I don't resort to personal insult, I am simply tearing apart things people said without resorting to ad hominem, I never said anyone was stupid for not liking it and I also do know, because I have seen it with my own eyes, that there are people out there who dislike the stories for completely valid and understandable reasons.

My wording is a little bit aggressive because I don't react well to putrid/poorly justified negativity. When I am negative myself I try to be respectful towards people who like the things I am being negative about. For example I dislike the Zelda games but I don't find joy in constantly telling fans of that series how much the games suck  in my opinion. In fact I actually enjoy hearing people talk about their passion for these games, it makes me have some kind of appreciation for them even if they are not my thing.
25  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: What's the haps? on: April 07, 2014, 05:51:38 AM
The word Yoga makes me giggle.
26  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: April 07, 2014, 05:24:28 AM
I think my main beef with the Final Fantasy franchise is how it still overshadows much more worthy RPGs simply with the weight of the name. I don't think it's by any means a terrible series now, just a mediocre one that's just not my cup of tea. It just gets so much attention for something that isn't top-of-the-line JRPG stuff, and I think it's more about the series' past than about the recent games being all that relevant. Even here, people would rather post 55 pages of posts discussing how bad this game is rather than talk about RPGs they think are good. Heck, even I'm doing it while claiming I don't even care! >_<

Oh well, c'est la vie.

Pot calling the kettle black.. If you don't want this "mediocre" series  to be talked about, dont talk about it. Admitting that you are being an hypocrite doesn't eliminate the fact that you are part of the problem in your own perspective.

Can we at least agree that the twist at the very end of LR was unnecessary, stupid, and cheapened the whole series?

To me it was harmless.. Didn't think much of it, I liked the fact that atleast
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it was a world without mythology because the mythological beings were the root of all the problems in the old world, the fact that it's supposed to be "earth" is irrelevant to  me, I like the idea of the ending I don't really care if it's supposed to say FF XIII's world became earth afterwards or wtver.

As far as  Kevadu's post goes. Yeah if you didn't like the combat, the game will be pretty unbearable because of one of the problems of that game for me even loving the combat is the fact that there is so much of it, no quiet time, no side activities, no distractions, FF XIII felt like a huge grind in some places, Grand Pulse was a breath of fresh air because even though all the sidequests were all fights atleast that part of the game was HUGGGGE and very relaxing to explore and walk around in  not to mention that the environments were jaw droppingly beautiful and the music was fantastic. And also, you need more than the same 3 sets of paradigms, If  you only use 3 sets of paradigms you are probably not very good at thhe game, I doubt you would even beat it.
The game made full use of it's systems, all the roles were extremely relevant, synergist, saboteur and sentinel were just as fundamental as Ravager, Commando and Medic.
Fully agree with Dice aswell, XIII-2 was easily the pinnacle of the series even though I thought LR had better gameplay/customization and was generally more fun to play. XIII-2 was not only excellent gameplay wise but it also had a fantastic villain, some really good characters with extremely well executed back stories(easily the best part of the trilogy (Noel/Caius/Yeul)), the music is some of the best in the series too and it was damn fun in it's own right.
The XIII series has generally cheesy dialogue but it's the kind of cheese that I can get into, I imagine how LR's ending could be very cringeworthy for many people but as I was attached to those characters it was very endearing to me. Execution wise, there are some standout moments but I agree that it's not very good in that respect. I'll take the contents of the actual stories over the execution any day so that's why I don't really complain too much about the narratives.
27  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: April 06, 2014, 07:28:19 PM
When FFVIII came out, I knew Final Fantasy had changed into something I didn't really like.

When FFX came out, I was having a hard time admitting to myself how much I hated it.

When FFXII came out, I started to realize to my great sadness that I've outgrown Final Fantasy and I should let go.

When FFXIII came out, I was upset at myself for buying it, just out of habit.

When Lightning Returns came out, I realized I just don't give a damn anymore. I'm done.

Ok

At least FFIX was omitted! :D

And I kinda agree but not with this same ZEST AND PASSION OF ABSOLUTE ANGER.  And I like FFX (mostly for its pretty world and fun and quick battle system).

LR has my attention since everyone calls to its battle system and customization as being a lot of fun (at the expense of a good story).  As soon as that game is on discount I might pick it up.

People who criticize the story are mostly people who dont know shit about the XIII universe(and it shows with the amount of stupid that comes out of their mouths as far as storyline events go) or didn't like the XIII stories to begin with. If you enjoyed the previous games, LR does a good job at closing the story. I saw some fans being disappointed too but it's uncommon.
If you don't like the characters or story from the previous two games yeah, don't expect anything out of it.

I liked you better before you became an FFXIII apologist.

So would you rate the FFXIII trilogy as being better than 999/VLR, and if so, by how much?

I am not an apologist. I like what I like and I am not afraid to defend what I like regardless of the status quo. I don't love things blindly I might add, I am no fanboy either. This applies to anything, XIII is just an example.
And I think you overrate how much I like FF XIII xD. 999/VLR are FARRRRRRRRRRRRRR superior(it's a completely different tier of experience). And for clarification my FF rankings would be as follows 7 > 10 > 9=8 > 6 = 13-2(though I tend to give 6 the edge) > LR = 4 > 12=5=13 > 2 > 1.
I don't dislike any of them and even with 1 at the bottom I like it quite a bit and as you see the 13 games are not that high. I just can't relate to the hyperbolic negativity, that's all, I enjoy many aspects of the XIII games even if they are not perfect but I tend to look for reasons to enjoy something and not the other way around.
28  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc on: April 06, 2014, 06:31:17 PM
I cannot fathom why you'd try to defend a few of the holes in this story. It's one of those games you just need to take in stride and for fun and not overthink, because that's when it starts falling apart. It's not meant to be realistic.

Another silly, minor example would be:
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Why Junko threatens them with the air purifier turning off when there's a large, healthy garden.


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Also, since that one particular scene was mentioned, and this isn't really a plothole, just something that bugged me. . .
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Remember how, after he gets out, Makoto was told he smells horrible?  The next case started up before he
could take a shower, so there was no real time for him to even if you consider the type of storytelling where a game
may omit certain mundane events, like going to the restroom. 

That entire time he was running around dirty and smelly and I couldn't take anything he said seriously.
Because some are not holes at all and others are arguably not holes?
29  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: April 06, 2014, 06:23:17 PM
When FFVIII came out, I knew Final Fantasy had changed into something I didn't really like.

When FFX came out, I was having a hard time admitting to myself how much I hated it.

When FFXII came out, I started to realize to my great sadness that I've outgrown Final Fantasy and I should let go.

When FFXIII came out, I was upset at myself for buying it, just out of habit.

When Lightning Returns came out, I realized I just don't give a damn anymore. I'm done.



LR has my attention since everyone calls to its battle system and customization as being a lot of fun (at the expense of a good story).  As soon as that game is on discount I might pick it up.

XIII's story in the long run ends up being a fulfilling experience in comparison to whatever X and X-2 tried to do in their time. They both have their moments of brilliance and their passionate fans, but overall, I honestly think that Persona 3 did practically the same story that X was trying to do way better.

You give off weird vibes to me(I don't mean it in a derrogatory way). You talk like someone who has been through a lot, like a veteran of war who possibly lost some limbs and fought a lot of battles and just gave up on life(in terms of internet discussions).
30  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days on: April 06, 2014, 02:23:04 PM
When FFVIII came out, I knew Final Fantasy had changed into something I didn't really like.

When FFX came out, I was having a hard time admitting to myself how much I hated it.

When FFXII came out, I started to realize to my great sadness that I've outgrown Final Fantasy and I should let go.

When FFXIII came out, I was upset at myself for buying it, just out of habit.

When Lightning Returns came out, I realized I just don't give a damn anymore. I'm done.

Ok

At least FFIX was omitted! :D

And I kinda agree but not with this same ZEST AND PASSION OF ABSOLUTE ANGER.  And I like FFX (mostly for its pretty world and fun and quick battle system).

LR has my attention since everyone calls to its battle system and customization as being a lot of fun (at the expense of a good story).  As soon as that game is on discount I might pick it up.

People who criticize the story are mostly people who dont know shit about the XIII universe(and it shows with the amount of stupid that comes out of their mouths as far as storyline events go) or didn't like the XIII stories to begin with. If you enjoyed the previous games, LR does a good job at closing the story. I saw some fans being disappointed too but it's uncommon.
If you don't like the characters or story from the previous two games yeah, don't expect anything out of it.
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