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1  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Future of Shadow Hearts on: February 23, 2007, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: "GrimReality"
I don't understand all the love for this series. I played through about half of the first game and had to stop. While the settings are great, that godawful judgement ring completely ruined the game for me. To leave everything up to chance button presses just completely turned me off. I can see using such a mechanism for bonus type stuff, but not for the whole game. UGH.


Yeah.  it's definitely a learning curve.  But I wouldn't call it chance.  There is a Rhythm to it that you have to learn.  I think me being a musician helped me with that game because the judgment ring was just like staying on beat while playing/singing/rapping.  I dang near got to the point where I could do it with my eyes closed because I had memorized the rhythm.  

SH2 vastly improved the JR though.
2  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Future of Shadow Hearts on: February 22, 2007, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: "Eusis"
Quote from: "Ramza"
The way they had worked the series out, the first game was Asia, and the second was Europe, and the third was North/South America...

You're not really right about the first and second. First had about half of it in Asia, half of it in Europe (Europe was the part where you could back track), while the second started in Europe and wound up going to Japan on disc 2.

Edit: And, uh, Matrix syndrome?


Matrix Syndrome is best described by looking at the Trilogy itself.  The first Matrix Movie was outstanding and set you up for what you think is going to be a great series.  The second movie goes in some directions that don't follow the natural progression of the first film, but you hope they will pull it together in later movies.  The third one completely undermines the first two and leads you to believe that the writers were simply pulling the plot out of their asses...

I'm not saying FTNW was bad because I never played it.  But as with any series, if it starts off great, it usually does not end with that same greatness if it continues on too long...  For me, SH1 and SH2 were easily the best RPGs I played on the PS2 system save maybe FFXII (which could be a bad thing when you think about it lol)  If they kept it going, it eventually would turn into something not so great IMO.  

Just look at how fickle Final Fantasy has been..  (my opinion of course)
3  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Future of Shadow Hearts on: February 21, 2007, 10:00:58 PM
I'm not really disappointed.  To me Shadow Hearts 1 & 2 were outstanding games that don't need any more sequels.  If they kept going, I'd fear them running into "The Matrix Syndrome."
4  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Xenosaga Episode III: Also Sprach Zarathustra on: February 19, 2007, 03:57:19 PM
Quote from: "Testament"
I have no faith left in the gameplay since they are going back to the Episode I formula, but it good to hear the the story is enjoyable.


I LOATHED ep.1's gameplay and so far find this game to be quite decent.  The battles are much more fast paced.  At least in the first 5hrs of the game.  

it's still dog on a leash syndrome though as far as exploration goes.
5  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Do you think the 360 could become an RPG Machine? on: February 19, 2007, 03:29:32 PM
It's only a matter of time IMO.  Honestly, games are starting to be made with Hollywood budgets.  Not releasing them on all platforms has GOT to be hurting developer and publisher pockets.  

Oblivion proved that Microsoft could finally get an RPG right after the Morrowind flop.  And there are quite a few new age RPGs that seem to be making their way onto the box.  

Now the RPG elitists will probably argue that some of these games are not "real" RPGs...  Well, so be it.  As long as I have a game I enjoy, I really don't care to argue what genre it is.  

But I'm optimistic that it's only a matter of time before some really sharp RPGs start hitting 360.  I need something fresh anyway.  I haven't truly enjoyed RPGs since SNES anyway save a few gems like FF12, Oblivion and Shadow Hearts.
6  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Recently Viewed Movies on: February 19, 2007, 01:12:20 PM
Quote from: "dalucifer0"
Is it that bad? I was planning to rent it when it came it to DVD. Anyways, I'm watching Grandma's Boy on cinemax.


It depends on what you like.  If you are a slapstick humor type, you may dig it.  But I need that sarcasm, irony and intelligent humor to really make me get into it tuff.  

There are some VERY slick intelligent jokes in the mix that can be missed if you're not paying attention, but they are few and far between.  

Plus, aside from it not being all that funny, the story is just horrible.  Without spoiling anything, Norbit's character is THE WORST!!  And it takes 2hrs to develop him.  He gets extremely annoying by about 3/4 of the way thru the movie.  I just sat there wishing the ending would hurry up and come.

On a positive note, Eddie did stray from stereotyping black folks which I REALLY appreciated.  So don't get me wrong.  This movie is NOT Soul Plane or any of those other movies that exploit blacks or other races in failed attempts at humor.  It's just a movie with good intentions that is executed poorly.
7  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Recently Viewed Movies on: February 19, 2007, 12:31:51 PM
Avoid Norbit like the plague!!!
8  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Worst RPG you've ever played. on: December 08, 2006, 01:42:14 PM
Quote from: "salinger"
Quote from: "blaq"
Quote from: "Eusis"
I think in this case then, there's a fine distinction between worst, and disappointing. Games like Secret of the Stars, Ephermal Phantasia, or to jump completely out of the genre, Big Rigs are genuinely horrible games. FFVIII and SO3 certainly are /not/. But they can, and have been seriously disappointing for failing to live up to hype, the promise the concept had, or the initial parts of the game. But they don't have horrible design and/or programming that simply /does not work/(Well ok, SO3 had some issues with the AI, but it generally worked), or were at least utterly unmemorable.

Certainly though, if you've played a very small number of RPGs or only the best, then it's easy for games like FFVIII, CC, or SO3 to be the worst you've played, but that still doesn't truly make them bad games.


Agreed.  A better way to put it is "What's the worst EXPERIENCE you've had with an RPG."

At the end of FFVII, I realized that I hated ALOT about the game, but I couldn't deny that it was a good game.  It was just a good game that I didn't like.  Or better, a good game that I had a bad experience playing.


that the point! i dont think there exist any game that is "good but you had bad experience playing" if someone of us dont enjoy from rpg he the worse for him and that only thing that matter of course there are some games that aolmst everyone out here consider "worse"  but it didnt made the other "good"  i think that   mystic quest is one of the worse and so  think the most of the gaming world but i actually think that vagrant story is the worse rpg ever it really unenjoybale to me but it aolmst have "parfect" status and i wil never wil think that it good game that i have bad experince with the fact that it have good promise and good
gameplay idea that not got good Execut only make it worse than mystic quest that are completly worse in all its part


I dig what you are saying.  But I'm talking about the difference between fact and opinion.

Factually speaking, there is ALOT good about FFVII.  The materia system was solid, leveling was balanced, controls were on point most of the game, etc.

But for my tastes/opinion, I hated the characters, the story and the dullness of the combat system. (especially when you couldn't skip the 20 second summon and spell scenes.) lol.

Objectively, I contend that the game was above average.  Subjectively, it had ALOT of gameplay isms that I hated.  Especially raising and racing friggin chocobos.  lol
9  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Worst RPG you've ever played. on: December 08, 2006, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: "Dincrest"
I used to have the 5 hour rule, but I upped that to a 10 hour trial period, because 5 hours isn't quite enough for an RPG to really get started.

Look at Xenogears.  That game took about 10 hours before the story really picked up and the story was phenomenal.


Xenogears got put on the shelf after I think about 8hrs for me.  I would have rather just read the Xenogears book.  It would have been less tedious and more enjoyable to read Xenogears as a book rather than play a halfassed game.

as long as a game shows some promise within 5hrs I'll stick with it.  hell, I aint quit Suikoden 5 until the final dungeon.  And I did that solely based on principal.  lol
10  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Worst RPG you've ever played. on: December 08, 2006, 09:07:20 AM
Quote from: "Eusis"
I think in this case then, there's a fine distinction between worst, and disappointing. Games like Secret of the Stars, Ephermal Phantasia, or to jump completely out of the genre, Big Rigs are genuinely horrible games. FFVIII and SO3 certainly are /not/. But they can, and have been seriously disappointing for failing to live up to hype, the promise the concept had, or the initial parts of the game. But they don't have horrible design and/or programming that simply /does not work/(Well ok, SO3 had some issues with the AI, but it generally worked), or were at least utterly unmemorable.

Certainly though, if you've played a very small number of RPGs or only the best, then it's easy for games like FFVIII, CC, or SO3 to be the worst you've played, but that still doesn't truly make them bad games.


Agreed.  A better way to put it is "What's the worst EXPERIENCE you've had with an RPG."

At the end of FFVII, I realized that I hated ALOT about the game, but I couldn't deny that it was a good game.  It was just a good game that I didn't like.  Or better, a good game that I had a bad experience playing.
11  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Worst RPG you've ever played. on: December 08, 2006, 09:05:59 AM
Quote from: "TurnBasedDude"
I am near the end of SO3 and I mainly stopped due to now nasty the steep difficulty curve has risen. Talk about cheap :/


I remember that feeling when I played.  Difficulty is cool with me.  But when developers utilize cheap tricks and gimmicks to fake difficulty, I lose respect.
12  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Worst RPG you've ever played. on: December 08, 2006, 09:04:35 AM
Quote from: "Hidoshi"
Quote from: "Leyviur"
I rest my case.


I know what you're still on about and the case doesn't work. Just let it go. Two weeks is a pretty good litmus for an RPG. FFXII on the other hand has kept going for /months/ of awesome now, and being 57 hours in, I find it hard to believe this is going to change. Kind of like how FFIX was awesome up until the end, and while it kinda fell apart then, it still ranks as one of my favourite games.

So yeah... just let it go already. :P


You sound alot like me in general.  :lol:  

You may need to adopt my  policy that I created while I was suffering thru Magna Carta: Tears of Blood.  It's called the "5 Hour Rule."  If a game can't dig itself out of the pit of whackness in 5hrs, I cut it loose.  :lol:
13  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Worst RPG you've ever played. on: December 07, 2006, 11:05:56 PM
Quote from: "Eusis"
... Ok, I have to ask how you managed to make regular encounters last up to 2 minutes? I rarely finished bosses in over 5 minutes, and most random encounters were down in 20-40 seconds about.


It wasn't a regular thing.  But the times it did happen were pretty much unforgiveable for me.  

The flying beasts were known for it though IIRC..  Bare with my memory cuz I finished that game this time last year.  

To me, the Story was pretty whack.  The combat was cumbersome and tedious.  If SO:TTEOT had been all the way turnbased or all the way action, I probably would have dug it.  But barely improving upon the combat in TSS, I was annoyed.  Especially when the story in TTEOT couldn't hold a torch to TSS's story.  (IMO)
14  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Worst RPG you've ever played. on: December 07, 2006, 07:01:41 PM
Quote from: "Bloodstar6078"
Final Fantasy X

Haha, just kidding. It was okay.

I can't think of any I've truly hated at the moment, but I dislike Legaia 2. I thought the first one was great.

I'm borrowin Star Ocean from a friend and I'm not even that far into it but I might stop playing it pretty soon. Seriously, you die from losing all your MP? F*** that.

Btw I'm new... *waves*


Same thing I said.  And regular encounters that can last upwards of 2 minutes was just unforgiveable.  

Do yourself a favor and quit early.  I finished the game and wished I had quit.
15  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Gears of War on: December 07, 2006, 12:06:31 PM
I've been playing it off and on since my wife got it for my birthday a few weeks ago.  I've been sneaking in tidbits of gameplay in between FFXII marathons.

I have to say, when I read about this game, I was immediately drawn to it because it claimed to right everything I thought was wrong with Halo2.  I always hated that Halo has no solid tactics other than Run & Gun offense and Defense.  

At first, GoW was a bit frustrating to get used to.  But once I did, LAWD JESUS I started enjoying it.  Once you get the hang of the controls and concept of the game it is a great deal of fun.  

I agree with everluck's "Co-Op" comment.  I had great fun playing co-op until 3am the night of my birthday party with my main man in San Diego.  And we played VS mode last weekend and REALLY enjoyed it.

I say check it out.  It was worth my money.
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