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2116  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Super RPGFan Game Journal IV - The New Warriors: The Revenge The Movie The Game on: August 18, 2010, 01:44:34 PM
Finally decided to get into Final Fantasy XIII. I'm digging it so far, but a few things bug me. The writing is horrendous! How many friggin' times do we need to hear Snow referred to as "The Hero"? Didn't someone(ANYONE!) think to MAYBE change up the dialog a bit? I don't get it. Then there's the ridiculous duo of Hope and Vanille. God, they are annoying. And that weird accent of hers...just bizarre.
I like Lightning, and Sazh is a great character so far. All the silly story BS is going in one ear and out the other, and that's just fine with me.
The graphics and music are damn good. The battles are super fast, if a bit boring. I suppose this will be remedied later on.
Overall positive so far. We'll see where it goes.


2117  Media / The Soundroom / Re: Best current generation sountracks on: August 17, 2010, 06:39:07 PM
Music can work within the game structure and not be boring as hell. Look at the Sonic games. Castlevania. Metroid. Games with great, listenable music that fits perfectly within the game. That's what I want. Not every game has to have nothing but environmental sounds in a desperate bid to be realistic. Sure, rustling leaves and gurgling brooks are great for setting a tone, but they're also boring if that's all you ever hear. I think these developers sometimes forget that they're making a 20 hour game, not a 2 hour movie. Music can make all the difference in the world.


Yeah but you don't really see games like those anymore do you? Like it or not games are a lot like movies these days, they are always trying to evoke some kind of emotion, there's always a ton of dialogue and cutscenes that require atmospheric music. You can't just write a catchy tune and a slap it on a level untill the player finishes it. The music has changed along with game design I guess.
I know. I know. They don't call me the Dark Lord of Nostalgia for nothing. Ok, no one actually calls me that. But they should, dammit!
*Puts on his Skeleton Warriors OST*

Guess I'll just enjoy the rare game that actually DOES have a decent soundtrack. I just started getting into FFXIII, and I quite like the music.


2118  Media / The Soundroom / Re: Best current generation sountracks on: August 17, 2010, 04:37:22 PM
Music can work within the game structure and not be boring as hell. Look at the Sonic games. Castlevania. Metroid. Games with great, listenable music that fits perfectly within the game. That's what I want. Not every game has to have nothing but environmental sounds in a desperate bid to be realistic. Sure, rustling leaves and gurgling brooks are great for setting a tone, but they're also boring if that's all you ever hear. I think these developers sometimes forget that they're making a 20 hour game, not a 2 hour movie. Music can make all the difference in the world.
2119  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 2 coming to the PS3 on: August 17, 2010, 03:52:25 PM
Wait, there's people who own a PS3, but not a 360? Odd. I can see it the other way around, as the 360 came out first, and was cheaper. Some of you either have some amazing will power, or seriously deep pockets.

I don't get this comment...you're saying that people who don't buy both consoles are the ones with deep pockets?

Personally I have a PS3 and no 360, but I didn't even get the PS3 until it had been out for a couple of years.  There wasn't much on either system that interested me in the first few years.  Not to mention that the PS2 was still going very strong back then.

Right now if I were to get another console it would be a Wii.  But the thing that's limiting me is time, not money.  I have a hard enough time just keeping up with my backlog of PS3 games.  What do I need a whole new system for?



I thought I might be misunderstood.
My thinking is that if you only own a PS3, it means you either:
bought it when it first came out - very expensive(deep pockets)
or
just recently bought it when it went down in price - willpower
I'm actually impressed by those who held out on buying a a new system for so long despite being bombarded with constant news about all the great games for them.
Personally, I got a 360 when it went down to $199. Then I got a PS3 when it dropped last September. Seems the natural progression of things.
Anyway...
ME2

2120  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Mass Effect 2 coming to the PS3 on: August 17, 2010, 01:42:07 PM
Wait, there's people who own a PS3, but not a 360? Odd. I can see it the other way around, as the 360 came out first, and was cheaper. Some of you either have some amazing will power, or seriously deep pockets.
Anyway...
ME2 kicks ass. Enjoy.
2121  Media / The Soundroom / Re: Best current generation sountracks on: August 17, 2010, 11:38:29 AM
I've been sharing your sentiments Grim. I have not really got into a lot of gaming soundtracks nowadays. I'm a melody oriented kind of music fan, and while atmospheric tones are nice and all, and can really impact the game, I just couldn't care less for it when I hear it outside of a game, and it rarely stays with me. Same with a lot of orchestrated music to lesser extent. There are some great ones I enjoy, but I dunno, guess a lot of them feel pretty band, and don't stick with me. I just want to listen to something with a strong, catchy melody. Something that would make me hum it or just sounds good all-together and want to put on repeat. Pretty much like a lot of the older games back when limited technology were forced to make the music created, and do something creative to make it stand out, and make it work with the game. There are some great modern soundtracks tonight, but the overall magic isn't there as much, and it gets a little frustrating to me that a lot of emphasis is just setting the mood of the game rather than make something unique and memorable to make the long last both in and out of the game, but that's just the way things are. :/

These days, I just tend to look forward to gaming music from certain composers. Meguro and anything the Falcom Sound Team (JDK Band). They consistently impress me, even with Meguro's Strange Journey album, which did engage me after warming up to it, but yeah, I just listen to Ys albums on repeat lots of times, and wish a lot more composers do what they to. Create awesome music with awesome melodies that has that bit of old school magic, but in a modern style. Speaking of Ys albums, I wonder if you've listened to the Chronicles version of I and II Grim? Those are fantastic arrangements of those old tunes, and am completely impressed how songs got new life to them.

Anyhow, I am currently listening to Nier's soundtrack, and am totally impressed by this too. Loving what I hear so far.
Exactly! Modern games seem far more concerned with creating a mood than with actually having good music to listen to.
I think it's damn pathetic that the best music in games came so long ago. TG-cd games like the Ys games, Dungeon Explorer 2, the Thunder shooters. These games had freaking AMAZING music that blows away anything released nowadays.
examples(I know I shouldn't have to say this around here, but listen to the whole thing, not just 10 seconds):
Dungeon Explorer II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTjAW2IeAUU
Ys I & II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZjj_8mmhM4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcaHjkHmvAg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhkwXG9oyhQ&feature=related (End theme)
Ys III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBxrmB3Sdzw&p=0C4A8FC0ECF7B3A5&playnext=1&index=7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUlWlhTQISI&feature=related
Gate of Thunder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWSoPGtQUU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFBdhI1I-rI&feature=related (One of my favorite ending themes of all time)
Plus so much more non=TG stuff...
Now you see why I'm a bit frustrated? This is not my opinion. It is a FACT that game music was better before than it is now.
TBD, I have listened to pretty much all the Ys music ever released. I own numerous soundtracks and mixes. Possibly due to nostalgia, I still prefer the original soundtracks over all else. I have yet to hear the Chronicles versions, though, so who knows?

2122  Media / The Soundroom / Re: The favorite video game music composers thread on: August 15, 2010, 12:22:42 PM
You can't forget about Yuzo Koshiro in a composer thread. 

Ever since I played Streets of Rage when I was a wee lad, this song has been stuck in my head.  It's still stuck in my head.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPgv7xXbY4g

YES! That was one of my favorites in the 16 bit days. Nothing could touch the soundtrack of the first sonic though.
Yeah, I always liked the music in the Sonic games. It just fit so perfectly. Heck, I even liked the Isometric Sonic on the Saturn. It had a great soundtrack.
Listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB5EnEMHDRc&feature=related
Awesome, huh?


2123  Media / The Soundroom / Re: The favorite video game music composers thread on: August 14, 2010, 09:47:29 PM
You can't forget about Yuzo Koshiro in a composer thread. 

Ever since I played Streets of Rage when I was a wee lad, this song has been stuck in my head.  It's still stuck in my head.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPgv7xXbY4g
YES YES YES! God, I freaking loved that song when I first played the game, and it's still great today. Good call on Yuzo, Din.
Actraiser had some amazing music.
2124  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Super RPGFan Game Journal IV - The New Warriors: The Revenge The Movie The Game on: August 14, 2010, 11:28:48 AM
I bought Mad World a few weeks ago because it was only $9 on Amazon. I decided to try it out last night.
This game is frickin' crazy. I was having a blast beating the crap out of everything. I even don't mind the hip hop music, as it seems to fit with the game.  I dare say the best part of this is the announcers. Holy shit, they are hilarious. And crude as all get out.
I don't like that there is no difficulty settings. I know I won't get far, but I didn't plan on playing this very long anyway. A nice diversion, though.
2125  Media / The Soundroom / Re: Best current generation sountracks on: August 14, 2010, 10:55:59 AM
I was hoping you would respond, Pat.
You have to admit that music in games isn't like it used to be. Stuff like God of war III is decent, but not really listenable outside of the game.
I see you listed several DS games. I just can't get myself to use the thing. I've looked at the Etrian games before , but have yet to buy one, because I know I would abandon it for the next flashy console game.
I've got both FFXIII and Lost Odyssey but have only played the first hour of each.
Anyone know how the music is in the new Ys games coming out? I still listen to my Ys I & II soundtrack on a routine basis. Slaughters most anything that's ever come afterwords.
It seems to me that while there's been so many improvements in gaming, music has gone downhill. Sad.

2126  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Super RPGFan Game Journal IV - The New Warriors: The Revenge The Movie The Game on: August 13, 2010, 11:27:43 AM
Big surprise. Deathspank is boring me. I guess I just don't do silly. The gameplay is kinda fun, and I've chuckled a couple times, but I just can't get in to it. Plus, the music is atrocious.
Perhaos it's time to invest in one of those games that passed me by. Or go back to InFamous(eh). Or actually play FFXIII(daunting).
hmph
2127  Media / The Soundroom / Best current generation sountracks on: August 13, 2010, 11:23:25 AM
All the raving I've been hearing about Niers music inspired this post. I have yet to play the game, but the music is the #1 reason why I want to.
This music in this game is a big deal because of how rare great soundtracks are nowadays. So many developers are going with more dynamic type soundtracks. Personally, I miss having a single track playing over a level or an area. There's way too much silence in games now. I get what they are trying to do, but it seems to have resulted in a lack of great soundtracks.
So...
I made this thread so we can talk about the games that actually DO have great music. Perhaps I'm missing a whole bunch of great soundtracks, and just didn't know it.
A few I've enjoyed:
Mass Effect 1/2 - There's some really great 80's sci-fi-like music in these.
Uncharted - I really liked the main theme.
Braid - Wonderful (licensed)music here.

I can't remember the last time I was genuinely blown away by a game with great music. I want to have those tunes in my head all day long. This just doesn't happen anymore. Last time it did was maybe Okami or Lament of Innocence. It's been too long.






2128  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Super RPGFan Game Journal IV - The New Warriors: The Revenge The Movie The Game on: August 11, 2010, 05:08:55 PM
Fired up uncharted 2 to do a bit more progress on my crushing playthrough and though its been almost a year the game's visuals still amaze me, the game looks unreal every step of the way.
Also doing NG+ on demon's souls and dare I say it, it's even harder than the first time.

Grimreality, I agree with the environment variety issue but I don't see how the game is any more repetitive than any other action game out there. Hell, compared to something like uncharted or gears of war there are actually a lot more options in the way you can approach any given situation because of the variety of powers at your disposal and freedom of movement.
I was just about to say that I am waiting for a price drop for Uncharted 2 but now I see Amazon has it for 36.99. SO tempting. Metroids coming in a few weeks, though.
as for InFamous...
I was trying not to be too negative, as I was enjoying the game for awhile, but I have other problems, too. The reapers are horribly boring enemies. Very little variety, and the design is lame. Plus, they all have ridiculously good aim, even from 3 buildings over. Damn annoying.
I played through the entire first area. The side quests got very repetitive. Most we're just me killing growling guys in red capes.
There is very little music in the game. This bothers me, as I am a big fan of great game music.
You compared it to Gears of War and Uncharted, both of which I loved. Those games had structure, narrative, great music, etc. WAY better than InFamous.
Perhaps the sandboxy type games just aren't my thing.



Man, the game is dirt cheap here in europe, you guys need to get this game, I mean, really.

As for infamous, the sniping is a common complaint. The city is divided into 3 parts and enemies are very different in each. I guess you didn't get that far. As for the story, it gets more interesting towards the end, you should give it a chance. I'm not saying it's as good as uncharted or gears. I didnt have the patience to do a lot of missions, you shouldn't bother either. I recently played nier and had the same problem, doing all the missions can break the pace of a game and make you loose interest, just follow the narrative, it's a good advice for both games. Just do a few to see what they are about or else you'll find yourself doing the same thing over and over.
Not to continue the thread hijack, but...
I did every single side mission in the first area. I can't see all those dots on the screen and NOT do them. I'd feel guilty. Perhaps that's why I'm burnt out already.
I like Cole a lot, as cliche as his character is, and I am curious as to where the story will go. We'll see...
2129  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Super RPGFan Game Journal IV - The New Warriors: The Revenge The Movie The Game on: August 11, 2010, 02:20:59 PM
Fired up uncharted 2 to do a bit more progress on my crushing playthrough and though its been almost a year the game's visuals still amaze me, the game looks unreal every step of the way.
Also doing NG+ on demon's souls and dare I say it, it's even harder than the first time.

Grimreality, I agree with the environment variety issue but I don't see how the game is any more repetitive than any other action game out there. Hell, compared to something like uncharted or gears of war there are actually a lot more options in the way you can approach any given situation because of the variety of powers at your disposal and freedom of movement.
I was just about to say that I am waiting for a price drop for Uncharted 2 but now I see Amazon has it for 36.99. SO tempting. Metroids coming in a few weeks, though.
as for InFamous...
I was trying not to be too negative, as I was enjoying the game for awhile, but I have other problems, too. The reapers are horribly boring enemies. Very little variety, and the design is lame. Plus, they all have ridiculously good aim, even from 3 buildings over. Damn annoying.
I played through the entire first area. The side quests got very repetitive. Most we're just me killing growling guys in red capes.
There is very little music in the game. This bothers me, as I am a big fan of great game music.
You compared it to Gears of War and Uncharted, both of which I loved. Those games had structure, narrative, great music, etc. WAY better than InFamous.
Perhaps the sandboxy type games just aren't my thing.

2130  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Super RPGFan Game Journal IV - The New Warriors: The Revenge The Movie The Game on: August 11, 2010, 09:27:52 AM
Deathspank - I'm having fun with it so far, but a few things bother me. The music is boring and repetitive. I understand that it's a humorous game, and they wanted music to match, but it pretty much sucks. Plus, I still don't like DS's voice. It's just too over the top.

BTW, I stopped playing InFamous because it felt like I was just doing the same thing over and over again. Plus, the graphics never seemed to change much. It needed more variety with the environments.
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