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436  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Persona 4 on: December 23, 2008, 01:44:17 AM
I have to say that this game gets its story rolling a hell of a lot faster than P3. I love P3 but this game just develops the characters so much faster. I think what I love the most is Yosuke and Chie, they remind me so much of the way I fight with one of my friends. Its funny, I thought at first that I would hate Chie's voice but shes now my favorite.

And damn, I love this game's music. I putting these hawties on my mp3 player, I love so many of them. The singer has an angelic voice.
437  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Persona 4 on: December 22, 2008, 11:22:46 PM
I suggest using the walkthrough on gamefaqs since its doesn't have spoilers. It tells you what dialogue options to take to boost your stats and social links. Very useful. Theres also a max soical link to help you max out all the social links in one game if you need it.

I also suggest repeatly grinding in a level until they start giving below average exp and then beating the optional boss. A few extra levels and having the right personas and items makes all the difference in this game. In fact, I always check a walkthrough before a boss or mini-boss fight for info on it because this is the type of game that even with that knowlege it may still take 2 or 3 tries to beat a boss. This is the type of game that can be that hard but then again I am playing on expert.
438  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Did FFVII ruin RPGs on: December 22, 2008, 08:48:27 PM
And when did genres get so restricted. You must have this and this or else your not a part of this genre. I just can't agree with that thinking.

By your definition, Shadowrun is not cyberpunk because it has magic and swords and oh wait didn't street samurai with sowrds come from neuromancer...and blade fingernails....

Oh, well. I DISAGREE!

So sayth the nerd.
439  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Did FFVII ruin RPGs on: December 22, 2008, 08:30:21 PM
Actually, Steampunk is a subgenre of Cyberpunk. And the book widely attributed with kickoff the cyberpunk movement would be the classic: Neuromancer by William Gibson. If you've ever play a cyberpunk pen and paper RPG like shadowrun then you'll realise just how much of the style was set by this book.

Its lack of computers doesn't change that's its style very heavily borrows from cyberpunk. In fact, make Jenova a rouge AI and Sephiroth the cyborg son of that rouge AI and tell me thats not a typical cyberpunk story. It even has a megacorporation with more power then many countries and thats trying to take over the world. Its even got a guy with a cyber gun that just scream cyberpunk.

Cyberpunk is still consider science fiction. To borrow from wiki (not the best place but I'm lazy, sue me):

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These may include (but remember it does NOT have to included):

A setting in the future, in alternative time lines, or in a historical past that contradicts known facts of history or the archeological record
A setting in outer space, on other worlds, or involving aliens[4]
Stories that involve technology or scientific principles that contradict known laws of nature[5]
Stories that involve discovery or application of new scientific principles, such as time travel or psionics, or new technology, such as nanotechnology, faster-than-light travel or robots, or of new and different political or social systems

In fact, you do go take part in a space launch so FF7 has way too much tech to be steampunk/Industrial Fiction.

At its heart science fiction is speculative fiction. Hence Sciene fiction and fantasy are easy to mix and often are.
440  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Will Final Fantasy 13 redefine Japanese RPGs again? on: December 22, 2008, 05:11:51 PM
OMG, A GIRL! *screams and faints*

But thats a good point. Often innovative games are not the best and Final Fantasy games to often try to hard to be innovative which causes screw ups like FF8's draw system. I love FF8 but what the hell was that? I'm just hoping for a polished game which is to be expected from an FF game.
441  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Did FFVII ruin RPGs on: December 22, 2008, 04:59:46 PM
Well, its not modern steampunk since thats a bit of an oxymoron. I believe the word your looking for is Cyberpunk and yes, FF7 does have a Cyberpunk style. It may not have scale but that mega city makes its more than modern, more of a near future setting.

Note that Cyberpunk is a subgenre of Science fiction so its still appropriate to call FF7 a Science fiction game.


SO SAYTH THE NERD!
442  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Did FFVII ruin RPGs on: December 22, 2008, 01:53:29 PM
Its not steampunk, the technology was too high a level. Sure it had an Industrial Revoultion type look but it was still Sci-fi. Now FF6 was steampunk. Big difference.

Though, I will give you that. If FF7 did anything then it was popularizing FMVs in games. Of course, it wasn't just the FF7 but all the other games on the Playstation that used FMVs that popularized its use.

erwos: Have you been reading my posts? I already said in the previous pages that I enjoyed FF8 far more than FF7 and think FF7 is a very overrated game. And I happen to agree with you. I personally enjoy FF6 better but still, FF7 was a decent game. Just not the greatest JRPG of all time that effected every other JRPG afterwards; So great we must kiss its ass over and over again.
443  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Will Final Fantasy 13 redefine Japanese RPGs again? on: December 22, 2008, 01:09:38 PM
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Will Final Fantasy 13 redefine Japanese RPGs again?

No.
QFT. Persona 3 FES and Persona 4 have already done it.

Double QFT.

QFTx3.

THREE HIT COMBO.

Quadruple hit combo!
444  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Did FFVII ruin RPGs on: December 22, 2008, 01:03:26 PM
That's not the reason for Microsoft's success. Microsoft made sure as many companies as possible were running Windows so that any other software company had to make Windows products because that's the OS the vast majority of companies and PCs were running. A near market monopoly they set up because of stupid business decisions on the part of their competitors like Apple rather than advertisement. And the trend has not changed because companies and individuals would rather stick with a brand they know then switch to another OS because most know nothing about OS systems.
445  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Did FFVII ruin RPGs on: December 22, 2008, 12:21:50 PM
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FFVII's only fully concrete contribution is the use of 3D in RPGs.

FF7 wasn't even the first RPG to be 3D. There were a few games that had better 3D graphics.

And I like FF7's sci-fi setting. That's why I can't wait for the FF13 games, a return to a sci-fi setting. Fantastic.

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SOO don´t you ever dare questioning the influence of this game on the Globalization of the rpgs

Hmmm, I will because I can. Japanese companies were not shipping that many games to euorpe until latter, can't quite say thats because of FF7. Can't say at all. What has FF7 done for the popularity of the vast majority of JRPGs like the ones from Atlus? Nothing.
446  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Persona 4 on: December 22, 2008, 04:45:19 AM
I'm really starting to get angry at them giving me option in dialogue and then me not being able to do them because I don't have enough courage or something else. It feels to restricting. If you want me to have it as an option, then freaking let me do it. I haven't had enough time to build up other things besides leveling up and social links.

Actually, reading the walkthrough on gamefaq, some of those responses are impossible without a 2nd walkthrough. So think of them as a way to keep the game fresh even after beating it.
447  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Will Final Fantasy 13 redefine Japanese RPGs again? on: December 22, 2008, 01:55:34 AM
O_o i feel like im on the edge of a frightening world, treading water on a surface of a deep, deep lake with strange creatuares who have very alien concepts of fun...

Did you just walk through a DBSM dungeon?
448  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: RPGFan Community Photo Thread: 2007 Edition on: December 21, 2008, 11:09:00 PM


Normally I'd pick something a bit more worth looking at.  But I like this.  Because it shows you where I sleep, and (on the left) you see where my PC is that I come and talk to all the fine smart-asses on good ol RPGFan.

OMG ITS A GIRL! Never seen one before since I spend all my time with my RPGs. Duh.
449  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Ass pennies on: December 21, 2008, 11:07:52 PM
I read that as ass penises.

I am very disappointed.

Funny, I did as well. LOL.
450  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Did FFVII ruin RPGs on: December 21, 2008, 10:57:47 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH, you were just pimp slaped by god. :)

*looks at his avatar* Hey, shouldn't I be named Rider?

And what was this topic about again?

could this be what trolling is? Oh well. Hopefully we learned the difference between trolling and a just a slightly annoying topic because of how many times its discussed on every rpg forum.
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