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1516  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: JRPGs are total shit, WRPGs are THE shit on: July 09, 2009, 12:05:08 AM
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WRPGs are awesome because I can wonder around for hours with nothing to do... just like real life!

just like shadow of the colossus amirite lul
1517  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Xinjiang Riots in China on: July 08, 2009, 06:19:33 PM
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How exactly involved is that woman in the violence itself?

For me, this is one of the biggest deciding factors in this scenario. Rebiya Kadeer has a history of causing conflicts in the Xin Jiang area, being detained for it, and then being released to the United States (which asked for her custody), and China capitulated. Given her history, I'm not one to trust much of what she says, but putting that aside, China claims to have evidence that this riot was premeditated (I believe they said through the internet, or through phones, but don't quote me on that detail), and they have evidence that Kadeer is part of the ETIM- of course, my whole belief on this story hinges on whether the PRC decides to disclose any of this information, because the only way I imagine they would have this information is through a spy, and they'd have to be careful about what parts they release. Until they do though, I of course will not believe it, nor will I believe any claims that this woman was innocent.

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I'd say politicians in just about any country act like asshats.

Yeah, but I can't think of any other developed country that would accept any politicians making blatantly racist or homophobic statements and not getting an verbal ass-whupping for it.

The reason I say Ma Ying-Jeou is more dignified is because he doesn't do these things- he doesn't act like a child when he's supposed to be a role model for people(That's another reason he got a high female vote). I believe in a recent incident he even fired one of his own people because he made a statement to the effect of "You Taiwanese pigs". But like I said, as a president, he's certainly leaving a lot to be desired, but I believe that a President, and other people in important role-model positions, should carry themselves with a certain air.

The 20 years before Ma Ying-Jeou (CSB+Lee Teng-hui) has led to the corruption and inadequacy that exists in the Taiwan government today. As to whether or not it's any "less corrupt" than PRC...well, that's certainly not something can really be measured in any way.

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What I am asking is what should the PRC do about it? What needs to be done to right things?

To this I really can't give an answer, everyone needs more information before they can decide what exactly happened here- that the PRC is actually claiming that this is a planned riot would make all the difference in the world to me.

The whole problem is that people view the issue as simply as "make them independent", when in fact that actually encourages violence, especially in a place where the Han Chinese and the Uighur are practically the same in numbers. If when the African American community raised up those many decades ago, the smart plan certainly wouldn't have been to give them their own private sanctuary, that just creates a new nation with the default setting of wanting to go against everything the nation it spawned from.

But that brings me to another question, what exact injustices are the Uighur claiming here? When a minority cries racism here, it's not exactly easy to prove/disprove.

As a last question, do people really still consider the Uighur to be Turkish(I realize they're technically the same race, but their culture is quite different by now)? If this is the case, this is now more like a border dispute, and not any sort of minority rising.
1518  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Xinjiang Riots in China on: July 07, 2009, 11:39:20 AM
One thing I'd like to add is for anybody interested in this sort of thing to do your research before you speak(Not referring to any particular person here). My problem is that a lot of people wear freedom like some sort of badge against evil intentions. It's this sort of dismissing brick-wall attitude that separates people.

Free Tibet is probably the biggest example of this, it's not simply "Chinese government oppressing the natives" like people always try to make it out to be. Trying to get people to join your side with twisted truths or even straight-up lies doesn't get you anywhere, it just makes your opposition even more determined to take you down. Given Tibet's history, I find it pretty silly that people treat it as though the Chinese somehow made things worse than they used to be- the worst you can say is that Chinese ownership in Tibet is similar to what the US is doing with Iraq- except with much greater success.

Really, Tibet's just a fucking mess- it's a real headache of a situation and I can't think of any easy solutions to it.

As far as Taiwan goes, their whole government system is screwed up. It really is a corrupt system, and one look at any political debate on a Taiwan news station shows that instantly. The politicians there act with no dignity whatsoever, except maybe President Ma Ying-jeou, who really fills most people watching him with nothing but anger because despite his aim to act like someone that is clean of corruption, he doesn't DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. You get CSB out of office, and this is really the best you can do?

Oh yeah, going back to the no-dignity comment, tell me if any other country has their politicians accusing stupid things like homosexuality and legitimate money-grubbing (A paradox of course, which is the exact problem because Taiwan's system sucks) as legitimate arguments.

I have a great deal of respect for Dr. Sun Yat-Sen, and I believe for him to be one of the few people in recent Chinese history to have a powerful ideal of happiness in life for the people. Given this, I firmly believe that if given the choice, he would certainly choose current-day PRC over the ROC. ROC's actions are constantly there to encourage conflict between people.

I don't really have much to say about Xin Jiang though, since I haven't read as much about this incident yet.

EDIT: Having read some material, and having watched both English and Chinese news stations, I'll try to give some things I've learned.

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Despite my bias against the Chinese government, I bring this up because last year someone else said that the Tibetans were exaggerating their plight, because neither the Uighurs nor the other ethnic minorities took any such violent action.

Yeah, that is certainly a very incorrect statement. Racial tensions will always exist in any country, and the Uighurs have always had many tensions with the Han Chinese, much like how the many races of the United States have tensions with each other. The difference is that it has never been such a jaw-dropping outbreak of violence over them, and this sort of violence is certainly not the norm in Xing Jiang obviously, or there'd be no news to report.

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Is Han nationalism too strong, and is governmental preference too biased? Signs point to yes.

Signs point to yes if you're talking about government preference for the minorities. I'm not saying what the Chinese government does is all right and good, but they do allow many benefits to minorities in their territories, both the Uighurs and the Tibetians, including but not limited to the lack of enforcement of the one-child policy, among other things, like guaranteeing spots in schools (no different than what the US does for say, Native Americans, really). As a note, the same treatment is done towards natives in Taiwan.

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But this isn't about the Han Chinese. It's about everybody else. What is the international community's responsibility here? Do we simply let things go, or do we say something?

If we say anything, it's to this woman who we allow to live under our noses who incites violence in an area of the country that is normally peaceful. I doubt you think that all the Uighurs are unsatisfied with their treatment- there's plenty of Uighurs I've seen on television that say what all of us should be saying, why is there such an unnecessary outbreak of violence? This isn't even attacking some responsible party, this is attacking innocent people, and somehow it's the Han Chinese's fault that they have people pissed off that they have dead men, women and children on their hands?

Not to say responding to violence with violence is a good thing, which is why this whole curfew thing was put into place. It's no different than the US's response to 9/11 was. Overboard? Probably. But can you really say they're doing what is wrong here? My problem with a lot of Western media is that they have to nitpick every decision the ROC has done to try to stop the bloodshed- that should be the first priority here, to stop violence.

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Colonisation, exploitation, loss of cultural identity, and strong opinions about Han nationalism: What's really going on?

I ask you to clarify these things with more specific examples please. What exactly do you mean by colonization? You mean the fact that Han Chinese are occupying a territory that have for hundred of years (Since Qing dynasty, because China owned it during the Han dynasty but lost a couple hundred years later and then got it back), and somehow now it's become a problem? As a note, the Uighurs arn't even the real "natives" of the area if you want to get down to it- the Uighurs were originally from Mongolia, if I'm not mistaken. The real natives of the Xin Jiang area were melted into the Han Chinese a long time ago. Er, actually, the real natives make up approximately 7% of the population there. Both the Han Chinese and the Uighur have some degree of melting with these actual natives over hundreds of years, but they still are three very distinct groups. If you want to make an argument, it's no more the "Uighur's land" than it is the "Han Chinese's land", which is a key difference between this place and Tibet. I often hear people make the argument that the Tibetans deserve their own homeland (Still a flawed argument, but the point is that even this one isn't valid here), but the Uighur arn't native to the Xin Jiang area at all- they're the majority, but only by like, 3-4%. You can just as easily make the argument that this is the Han Chinese's land because they were there earlier than the Uighur were.

Exploitation- like I said, need you to clarify because I'm not too sure what you mean here.

I'm not sure how you can claim their losing their cultural identity so much as the fact that they're being a melting pot and somehow they now have a problem with it. There's nothing stopping anyone from going and learning about their own culture if they wanted to, unless part of that culture involves talking about inciting conflict, which is a big problem. You don't see any African Americans going back to Africa to learn about their culture having no problem with someone implying that an ancient tradition of keeping slaves is a good thing, because it's not, which is why these things have changed over the years. You see plenty of cultures here at the US saying that they're losing much of their cultural identity in the name of political correctness, except they don't start killing people over it.

And Han nationalism, well, I can't deny that Han Chinese often have a very stubborn blind dedication to their own nation, much like, say, every other nation in the damn world. It's just as irritating seeing it anywhere else in the world. =P
1519  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: How can JRPGs naturally evolve? Will we see more "big" JRPGs this gen? on: July 05, 2009, 10:46:39 PM
People seem to think that mature dilemmas and situations automatically mean it's going to be boring. Really, the easiest step to do this is to stop making villains inexcusably bad, IMO. You can't just stick some contrived reason for their villainy towards the end of the game and expect people to care about them.
1520  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Re: Final Fantasy XI - Journal! on: July 05, 2009, 10:12:14 PM
To be fair, it makes more sense for WSs to get stronger as you level up. Of course if they knew what they were doing, they would've made it so that every weapon skill has some important function. But the fact that they constantly throw shitty WSs in-between good ones as filler doesn't mean anything if you never use them. The only job I can think of that has almost all the weapon skills being useful at some point is Samurai.
1521  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: How can JRPGs naturally evolve? Will we see more "big" JRPGs this gen? on: July 05, 2009, 04:40:42 AM
Breaking anime typecasting would be my first choice in making JRPGs more interesting. I doubt they'll do that anytime soon, though. It's hard for me to take a game's story seriously, even if it tries to be more than your typical animu story when all the characters grate on me the way anime characters do. Valkyria Chronicles does this for me- not to say it's not a good game or anything.

And I don't see how having multiple ways of solving a problem is, in any way, a "bad" thing in changing JRPGs. If you all hold your linear storyline so preciously, why not just make it so that every single choice would have the same outcome, but each choice makes you walk a different path to get there? That way there's more replay value, you wouldn't get stuck on a single choice that frustrates you, and you get to keep your linear story.

It is the game developer's fault for making something that requires something that requires massive grinding or luck to get across, particularly in RPGs, because there's very few JRPGs that actually have their "difficulty" as anything more than giving their bosses ten billion HP and attack strength.
1522  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Monster Hunter Freedom Unite on: July 02, 2009, 07:52:31 AM
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GOTCHA BITCH!!

*free falling*

OHHHH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

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comparing it more to MMOs and what I've played/heard it definitely matches with those

That's pretty much the reason I never got into it, really. People tend to only play one MMO and stick to it. Grinding's fun every now and then, but I get my "fix" of that with FFXI. I know a couple people that do play both, though.

I guess if anyone who didn't want to pay monthly that wants the MMO experience can try it out. =P
1523  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Genso Suikoden. on: June 29, 2009, 10:00:33 PM
Why am I not surprised that's how you decided to respond? I await your one-line post about how much FFXIII sucks after you refuse to play it.

I like how you totally ignored how I said that not liking something and saying something sucks are two completely different things- the entire reason I wrote that is so you couldn't pull this drooling idiocy of "YEAH BUT IT DID SUCK".
1524  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: New Square Enix Game on: June 29, 2009, 08:45:58 PM
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Where's the DS adapter love Nintendo?

Probably from the fact that the SGB and GBA adapters simply allowed you to insert the game into the console and play it on the TV. I'm not sure how they can allow DS games to be connected to the Wii and have you use the Wiimote in place of the stylus without being too awkward.
1525  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Genso Suikoden. on: June 29, 2009, 08:42:14 PM
I think we're trying to be a bit more realistic than this.

They've only made one game since Suikoden V, though. Even if you didn't like Tierkreis, that's not really any indication that the quality will go down. That's like saying because FFX-2 sucked, FFXII also sucked- also keep in mind simply not liking something and saying that it's a bad game are two different things.

I can understand people not liking Tierkreis, but I've not seen any real indication that it's a bad game.
1526  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: Genso Suikoden. on: June 29, 2009, 04:08:19 AM
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Why are you dragging it out longer?

Personally, I'm curious, because you still haven't bothered ever making any real argument of what makes Tierkreis a "cheap cash in", or barring that, any argument that it's a bad game, because a game being a cheap cash in isn't any reason to hate it when the whole purpose of making games is to profit off of them.

And I'm going to be totally positive and say it's a protective trademark.
1527  The Rest / General Discussions / Re: Michael Jackson dead. on: June 27, 2009, 01:49:43 AM
Smooth Criminal is certainly my favorite MJ music video, but I dunno if I'd say it's my favorite song.
1528  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: New Dragon Quest IX Footage on: June 22, 2009, 01:01:00 AM
From the looks of it, you're allowed to split up and tackle different parts of the dungeon at a time in online play, and you can join together into a party to beat the stronger enemies- I think that has a bit of potential, but it does leave some room for one guy to dick around if you end up having like, 4 switches you need to press at the same time or something. =P
1529  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Re: New Dragon Quest IX Footage on: June 21, 2009, 10:28:23 PM
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But I'm not sure how I feel about the supposed online component?

Dragon Quest has never really been a story-heavy series so I don't see any problem with making it online. Merging offline with online playing tends to have bad effects on the story (PSO), but personally, I don't see much of a story to ruin with the Dragon Quest series. =P
1530  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Science in Science Fiction (And other specialized fields in entertainment) on: June 21, 2009, 02:01:49 AM
I'm wondering if this bothers any of you as much as it does me. Being someone that likes watching a lot of Science Fiction, I tend to get irritated if the science involved in it is bad. I never have a problem if you're making a mistake over something only experts would know- technobabble is something that comes with the territory. Having an engine system, a cooling system for it and all that is fine, because that stuff has a certain amount of logic to it. I hate it, though, when writers clearly only read the first line of a Science textbook and then base an entire story off of it.

A good example would be in a Star Trek: Voyager episode where they have this technobabbly solution to escaping a black hole. They compared a black hole to being like falling into thin ice and trying to get back up, and in order to get back up, you find a crack in the ice, transferring to being a crack in the event horizon (which is a thing around a black hole that you can't pass through, once you're past it, you can't escape a black hole). This may sound fine, but the event horizon is actually a mathematically defined boundary, rather than something physical that can be cracked. It'd be like saying if I had a car that could go 20mi/gallon with a 10 gallon tank, and if I drew a circle 200 miles around the car, I could put a crack in that circle I just drew and keep driving through that hole as if it was the circle that was the thing that was stopping me.

I will admit that for me, this is only a huge problem if the Science is at the center stage of the plot (Which it really never should be, but it ends up being so a lot of the time). As in, the difference between "oh, the engine's broken, we gotta go down to this planet we're near and find a solution" and "oh, the engine's broken, let's reroute the power of our multispectral subspace banana trapeze wingnut gun into it". Having things happen at the complete convenience to the plot is the hallmark of a lazy writer to me. In many cases, bad science is just another example of how the writers are putting effort into the material.

Imagine if you're watching The Longest Yard, and you're a football fan. You'd want this football movie to be accurate about football, correct? And what if one of the characters came out and said,
"Oh, you see that guy? Well he's a great player. You know why? Because he was a goalie for the Brooklyn Red Sox, and he was with O.J. Simpson and Vince Lombardi at the '62 superbowl at Montreal."
Anybody that knows anything about football would know that this is a bunch of nonsense, and the more you know about it, the dumber it sounds. Point is, if a writer isn't going to try making any of their specialized terms at least make some sense, there's no purpose for that writer to be in this genre.
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