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1696  The Rest / General Discussions / George Carlin RIP on: June 26, 2008, 03:26:27 AM
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ESPN's Mike and Mike In the Morning talked about his life and death for a pretty good chunk of their mostly sports based show.


Who cares?

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Just for curiousity sake, Hathen, who WOULD you consider funny? I fear your answer.


CARLOS MENCIA.

Okay, seriously though, off the top of my head I can't remember a lot of comedians, but I think I'll go with Lewis Black. And yes, he's one of the people who cites Carlin as an influence.

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I would argue that the true purpose of a comedian is to make people look at issues in a different way, which is definately what Carlin did, as well as many of the greats.

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Carlin had genuinely biting humour. And he wasn't afraid of offending people with his opinion.


That's the problem I had with laughing at his jokes. He basically took "What would people be offended by?" and then said it. There's no punchline, no creativity or writing talent involved. What he does have is presentation. If you get a few good comedy acts in the thing is that your presence alone will start being funny.

I'm not saying I've never laughed at him, I just don't see what the huge uproar is. He was influential, maybe, but I don't find him incredibly funny. The kind of observational humor I hear from him is similar to what any cynical person would say about said topic.
1697  The Rest / General Discussions / George Carlin RIP on: June 25, 2008, 12:45:52 PM
Am I a minority if I say I don't find George Carlin funny at all?

He doesn't make jokes, he makes observations and says them with sardonic tones. He doesn't even really have punch-lines found in traditional observational humor, he just makes observations. I suppose people would be right in saying delivery is everything for comedians, but I fail to see how any of his jokes (if you can even call them that) are funny.
1698  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / The Incredible Hulk on: June 24, 2008, 02:22:33 AM
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Word on the street is that the movie got chopped up quite a bit in the editing room


That would explain a lot. But even so, editing really shouldn't be this bad. The movie had terrible pacing and that really kills it for film audiences. I knew what was going on, but a lot of other people sure wouldn't.

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I actually thought this was better than Iron Man, because I was one of the few that thought Iron Man was overrated.


I will agree that Iron Man was overrated but I will not agree that The Incredible Hulk was better. The thing that made Iron Man so good was Robert Downey Jr. defining the Tony Stark character very well. Ed Norton is a good actor, but didn't feel that Bruce Banner was very fleshed out as an interesting character. He felt rather nondescript, and I couldn't care or be interested in him in any way other than just generally.

Action is better for The Incredible Hulk, but (This is just my opinion) when a hero is 100% CG it makes it difficult to feel like he is in any real danger. I can still suspend my belief enough though- like I said, I had a lot of fun watching The Incredible Hulk, but that's really about it.

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At least this new Hulk seems to be catering to the geeks and people who have realized that comic book movies CAN be taken seriously.


That was the problem everyone had with Hulk though- it was taken TOO seriously. The story of two adults who have had problems with their fathers all their life was too depressing for a lot of people, and the film tried to look at some real issues that are within the world (Which is something a lot of comic books lose when they're transferred to the big screen).

I will agree that Ang Lee was being kind of silly thinking he could do something new with the superhero movie genre and have a good reception for it, but I think comic book fans are being too hard on Hulk the same way a lot of critics are being too hard on The Incredible Hulk. They're looking for things that arn't there but don't see what the film ends up doing very well.

Just for discussion's sake, I guess, I'll put in some stuff I wrote on another forum. You can skip this if you're a tl;dr kinda guy though. Some of it is just repetition of what I said above anyway.

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1. Story/Characters were actually interesting.

In Ang Lee's Hulk, I found myself actually caring about the characters. I never imagined in a million years that would be moved by a superhero movie, so I was amazed at what Ang Lee had done. This, however, was a mixed bag. I realize Lee chose the wrong audience to do this with, as most of the people going to watch a movie like Hulk are more than likely expecting an insipid mish-mash of action sequences, and that's exactly what people got with T.I. Hulk.

2. Story was receptive to all audiences.

In T.I. Hulk, the background story is explained through a series of pictures at the beginning of the movie, and if you miss any of this, you'll not have a clue of what the hell is going on screen until about a half an hour in when they explain some of this stuff, and most of it is given piece-by-piece. It's incredibly annoying to me when comic book movies are too self-indulgent in their source material, and T.I. Hulk makes this mistake all over the place. I watched this movie with my father, someone who you would never imagine being at a Superhero movie, and he was constantly asking me questions at the beginning of the movie because he was really confused as to what was going on. Around the middle and end parts he was fine, but then there was the very end where Tony Stark appears and alludes to the formation of The Avengers. Most people don't know what the hell he's talking about- not everyone reads comics or knows about the superhero teams. Please, please, film directors: Be receptive to all of your audience. There's even less of a reason to make this one confusing because this was a reboot, not a sequel.

Don't worry though, my dad enjoyed the film, mostly. :P

3. Style.

Ang Lee's Hulk had a distinctive comic book style that I had never seen done before with films, and I know this was very subjective, but I found it to be really interesting and innovative way to make the movie seem fresh. Not much else to say here, I know a lot of people didn't like it, but I liked it because of it making a deep impression as a standalone movie.

Now I'm aware of a lot of the counterpoints, so I'm going to say the things I liked about T.G.Hulk better: The Action and The Humor. I don't think any further explanation is necessary.
1699  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / The Incredible Hulk on: June 23, 2008, 07:57:39 PM
Just saw it a few days ago, and I wasn't very impressed. This is a lot more pronounced considering the fact that Iron Man only came out a few weeks ago, and that film was much better. The film covers a lot of plot at blinding speed while filling the rest of the time with interesting but meaningless action. It was all very fun to watch, and I liked the humor, but it was a jumbled mess overall. Was there really a need to reboot a movie after one installment?

I liked Ang Lee's Hulk a lot more because it was a better film directed at a general audience instead of falling back into mindless special effects like this one did.
1700  The Rest / General Discussions / College girls banned from whistling at builders on: June 23, 2008, 07:17:37 PM
SIR THAT IS NOT GENTLEMANLY BEHAVIOR PLEASE CEASE THIS FUCKING BOLLOCKS.
1701  Media / Miscellaneous Games / Metal Gear Solid 4 on: June 15, 2008, 09:59:41 PM
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I'd love to see a list of titles that you consider to be better games.

It was a joke post. Can`t you tell? Gears of War is a clear give away for that.


Yeah, thank god he doesn't hate good games like the rest of us do.
1702  The Rest / General Discussions / The Slow Death of the Arcade on: June 15, 2008, 08:37:18 PM
Laser Tag is more about the atmosphere, really.
1703  The Rest / General Discussions / I did not rape that teenager, Your Honor. on: June 15, 2008, 08:36:32 PM
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Yeah, but the issue is whether or not the victim's injuries are consistent with penetration by a large penis.


I don't think there's been a lot of research on penisprints. I don't think it's easy to match an injury on or around the vagina to say a certain size caused these injuries. It isn't like a knife cutting through skin, where a certain brand is always a certain size and whatnot. Sex organs are very flexible compared to the rest of our body and it's not like he had to have penetrated her to have raped her.
1704  Media / Single-Player RPGs / Star Ocean: The Last Hope on: June 15, 2008, 08:31:33 PM
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Gentlemen behavior


I'm not getting into PS3 VS 360 argument number ten billion, but for Christ's sake get off your goddamned high horse.
1705  The Rest / General Discussions / I did not rape that teenager, Your Honor. on: June 15, 2008, 12:36:50 AM
While this is rather...odd, I don't think it's any different than identifying a a criminal by his height or weight.

It's still kind of a weak argument though, because I can't imagine it being impossible for a dick of any size to be unable to fit in a place where an eight-pound baby can pass through.
1706  The Rest / General Discussions / Digging through old Usenet posts is fun. on: June 12, 2008, 05:48:22 AM
Judging by Sega's latest big-name titles I think a whole console would be a complete disaster.

Sonic the Hedgehog and PSU were two of the games that people were looking forward to from Sega, and they ended up disappointing just about everyone except for die-hard fans. They're still fun, just the game were either badly designed (Sonic) or lacked a lot of the things we were promised (PSU).

Not to mention they used fucking GAMEGUARD for PSU.

It feels like they don't even put that much effort into the games.
1707  The Rest / General Discussions / Jack Thompson disbarred on: June 05, 2008, 07:52:22 PM
He's going to be 66 by the time he can reapply. At least we know that even if that's successful we're not really going to have to deal with him a very long time.
1708  The Rest / General Discussions / 1up: MMO Armageddon on: June 05, 2008, 07:46:42 PM
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What picture.


Well, it wasn't really a picture, but a screen capture of the concept video.



But seeing as how they're still using FFXI-like style graphics to simulate it I'm assuming their next MMO is going look incredibly similar.

Not that I really mind since I like FFXI's art style, but I don't really see that many improvements yet.
1709  The Rest / General Discussions / Jack Thompson disbarred on: June 05, 2008, 05:55:11 AM
Hasn't it been a long time since Jack Thompson lost all credibility anyway? What difference does it make if he's still a lawyer or not, other than the fact that we have lost someone we can laugh at. =P
1710  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Final Fantasy XI - Journal! on: June 04, 2008, 12:22:18 PM
Got DRK past 37, so now I can move onto leveling another sub or something.
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