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1891  The Rest / General Discussions / Wow.....China bans reincarnation w/o goverment approval on: August 21, 2007, 06:01:18 AM
Phew, lots to tackle, so speak up if there's anything important I miss.

One because neither was a Han government. Jurchans/Manchurians and Mongolians were not part of China proper (and the latter isn't at all), and in fact can be seen as occupying forces. In the Yuan case especially, the Mongolians were seen as an oppressive force who allowed for little actual Chinese involvement in government. Therefore this cannot be a precedent at all.

This can be debated, especially for the Qing government, as the difference between Manchurians and the Chinese are very minute by now. The most famous of Qing emperors, Kangxi, greatly respected Han culture and customs, and was very willing to let the Manchurians and Hans become a melting pot. In fact, my mother can be considered one of these examples, she is about half Manchurian, making me 1/4 so. The Manchurians are very rarely considered separate from Hans as far as I know by now. Hell, most people probably don't even know where Manchuria (used to be) is. Furthermore, the Qing empire was very open to letting the Han people become officials (Of course they were rarely the highest ranking ones, but they were definiately satisfied) as opposed to Yuan, which completely suppressed Han peoples which caused its eventual downfall.

Secondly, there has never been credible evidence to capitulation on the Tibetan government's part to the Qing authority, and certainly never to a Han Chinese authority. Prior to the Yuan dynasty, the most influence China ever had in Tibetan was the marriage of Wen Cheng to Songtsan Gampo. Being that she was the niece of Emperor Tai-tsung (Li Shih Min) of the Tang Dynasty, this was an important marriage, but has nothing to do with Chinese authority over Tibet.

I believe that was after Tibet was recognized as a sort of client state to China, and the purpose of marrying his niece was to keep the peace, as marriage justifies the Tibetans and the Hans as a family of people (So it was thought, at least).

The PRC has every interest in controlling Tibetan politics, and by extension, religious and secular affairs. Why is really beyond me, as there is little to be gained through control of Tibet, save perhaps to keep a secure border with India.

That's probably the main reason, since China isn't on the best terms with India. It's the same reason they need North Korea as an ally; North Korea is a "barrier" for China to the North (And of course they realize this so they always know China is going to back them up, as Kim Jong-Il has indeed used to his advantage). If China allowed Tibet's freedom now, they would almost undoubtedly be allied with India, which can spell all kinds of danger for China.

The point is that China is still way behind in dealing with its modern realities, not the least of which is multiculturalism. It's not just the PRC either, most dynasties after the Tang have had a record of Han conformist policy.

China has had 100 years since the collapse of the Qing to get back on its feet after getting their asses kicked in The eight-country alliance and Opium Wars. The Sino-Japanese War and others didn't help very much, either. It's hard for anyone to expect China to come out and be a super-advanced country as their business allows them to, yet people constantly hold China by the high standards in Western Countries, when they're still licking some of the wounds they have.

Hence the issues that came to Taiwan, where now most of the island speaks Mandarin despite originally being ethnically and linguistically distinct. I do prefer the Taiwanese government (I know YOU don't, but that's a different argument), yet there are clear effects of this historical policy in action through the ROC as well as the PRC.

Whole different can there, but I sincerely doubt you can convince any non-"Taiwanese" that the Taiwanese government isn't holding up an extremely unfair elitist standard. My mother's family came from outside Taiwan, and even though she was born and raised in Taiwan, the current Taiwanese government feels the need to treat these people like outsiders, simply because their ancestors were not in Taiwan.

They are constantly ruining the lives of those that "don't belong there". A family friend of mine worked for the Taiwanese government, and they forced him to work in Spain, which was basically "You better quit or we'll keep screwing you over" in disguise. Because of this, his wife left him, and he had to return home to take care of his children, losing his job in the process.

The Taiwanese government is screwing up the economy, it's not uncommon to hear entire families commit suicide because of money issues, and kidnappings (especially those of rich travelers) is extremely common. Oftentimes, in fact, your own family members kidnap you and kill you before asking for ransom (Because obviously the kid knows who kidnapped him).

If you've kept up to date anything Chen Sui-Bian has done, you'd know he cheats, lies, and steals. For example, he won his second term by doing things like shooting himself in the leg, and then claiming Chinese spies are attempting to assassinate him, putting all policemen and such on alert, making them unable to vote (Because he knows darn well that the police force in Taiwan is mostly anti-independence). He has stolen money from the government, and accused his opposition of corruption even though the so-called corruption is a loophole through Taiwanese traditions (I can explain more on that if you don't know what I'm talking about).

America may be in support of the Taiwanese government, but they sure as hell look down upon corrupt scum like them.
1892  The Rest / General Discussions / Ultimate Connection Used for Newspapers on: August 21, 2007, 05:36:19 AM

Who wants to guess how much porn she can download?
1893  The Rest / General Discussions / Wow.....China bans reincarnation w/o goverment approval on: August 21, 2007, 03:09:56 AM
Tibetians arn't Chinese, but thousands of Chinese have lived in Tibet for a long time, and the Dalai Lama (Not sure which number, though) once tried to drive them out in order to establish themselves as an independent country. I doubt China's intention is to delete their culture here, it's just difficult to stop something like this from going out of control without looking like an ass.

The argument here is that Tibet has already arguably strongly established itself as a territory of China for a long time, much like Xinjiang, and China is going to do what it takes to keep it that way. It's not a black-white situation where China is a suppressing evil superpower.
1894  The Rest / General Discussions / Wow.....China bans reincarnation w/o goverment approval on: August 21, 2007, 02:36:41 AM
That's the problem, they need to be able to determine who the Dalai Lama because it wasn't very long ago when the Dalai Lama was both a spiritual and political leader, and strived for independence in Tibet, which China doesn't want.

China isn't just doing this for kicks.
1895  The Rest / General Discussions / Your Video Game Band Name on: August 20, 2007, 11:30:20 PM


There, I said it.
1896  The Rest / General Discussions / Wow.....China bans reincarnation w/o goverment approval on: August 20, 2007, 11:03:39 PM
I don't think it's as simple as it seems, the Dalai Lama was driven out of political power several hundred years ago in Tibet, and after a war with India, China successfully regained Tibet. I think this is a (rather inefficient, though) way of preventing the Dalai Lama from attempting to regain political power within Tibet. The Dalai Lama has been working with India to get independence for Tibet for a while now, But that's not really something China is going to allow.

It's not an easy issue, you can't just say "lol china is teh totalitarianism", they have a lot more trouble keeping their regions from going for independence than the US does. The last time that happened was during The American Civil War, and the US wasn't exactly very nice to the South either.
1897  The Rest / General Discussions / Mario: Frustrustion. on: August 12, 2007, 04:41:13 AM

To be honest, I'm surprised he gets as far as he does.

My favorite part is where he goes in the pipe.

"Fuck, I should've realized that."
1898  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Any FFXI players still around and Discussion on: August 06, 2007, 09:54:58 AM
I'm taking a short break for now, but yeah, I'm still playing. Level 75 NIN and no other jobs going up really much, so I'm open to doing some stuff with some low level people when I get back to it. I've been doing a lot of endgame stuff mostly, so I only have one high-level job.

FFXI is fun, that's pretty much the reason I've been playing it for 2 1/2 years...or however long its been out, anyway. I think FFXI is really a love-it or hate-it game in a lot of cases, as well as being a huge timesink.

Yeah, exping is a lot easier from mid-levels up now (A good party averages about 10k/hour when you're doing merit parties), but low levels are still just as annoying because nobody is willing to experiment with certain areas, and you end up in overcrowded areas where it's hard as hell to find something to kill.

Compared to other MMOs, the only other one I've played for a relatively extended period of time (to me, at least) is WoW, mainly because I have  a lot of real life friends that also play it. The setting, art style and control for FFXI are what push it for me, I suppose.
1899  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / 300 recut for PG audiences on: July 05, 2007, 02:14:10 AM
The irony of this is that this would be even more horrifying to children than the actual movie.
1900  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / .hack anime series on: June 15, 2007, 10:10:31 PM
I enjoyed .Hack//SIGN, but like most people, I found painfully slow-moving and boring a lot of the time. A lot of episodes the characters sit around basically repeating everything that's already known, and the series would have been a lot better on a 13-episode or so format.

One thing that few can deny, though, is that .Hack//SIGN has one of the greatest soundtracks in anime.

Unless you're patient or you can stomach several episodes a day, you probably don't want to watch it.

I watched .Hack//Roots too. I'm a big fan of .hack. Still, this series fell short on a few areas.

First, the characters were pretty shallow. Unlike .Hack//SIGN, which was interesting not only for the story, but also for what you learn about the characters as the series progresses, .Hack//Roots had boring and lame characters most of the time. Probably the worst part of this is that the characters don't feel very human at all, especially the main character. His actions don't make much sense and are overly angsty. The character in SIGN were characters you can actually understand a little. The only character I found really interesting was Phyllo. If the series actually focused on telling you something about the characters rather than keeping all of them mysterious and cool, the series would be decently impacting. The way it is, it's just a normal action series.

Second, the soundtrack was unique and catchy at times, but it kept playing at the most unnecessary of times. It just felt out of place and ruined the mood all the time. It's not particularly good, either. Just really...weird. Well, it's definitely impressive.

Personally I don't think it moves very slowly, especially when compared to SIGN. There's a decent amount of actual action and fighting in the series instead of sitting around talking back and forth. As far as plot pacing goes, it's probably worse than SIGN, mainly because there's no real plot. The entire series is dedicated to setting up things for the game, instead of trying to be its own story like SIGN.
1901  Media / Multiplayer RPGs / Well that's surprising.. on: May 12, 2007, 08:15:56 PM
As far as the past of Vana'Diel goes, it's pretty expansive. Go here if you're interested:


From the looks of it, the point of the expansion is to talk about the stuff during the wars between the three nations. It will probably have some information about the first rise of the Shadow Lord, too.

It might be a good story to tell, but I hope it won't be like Chains of Promathia, which is interesting, but annoying beyond all words to complete. If it comes close to the amount that ToAU added to the game, I'll be happy. It would be interested to learn about the war though, since that can mean better PvP, heh.
1902  The Rest / General Discussions / Name A Forum, 2007 Edition on: February 21, 2007, 08:15:06 PM
Actually, I'm a fan of abstract art too. I just figured that apparently the trend here for our taglines is always along the lines of "sarcastic asshole". :P
1903  Media / Single-Player RPGs / weird hand gestures on: February 20, 2007, 01:15:26 PM
Quote from: "Dincrest"
Could someone post some pics of these gestures, so we can get a visual on what's being inquired here?  Or at least a better description of the action?  Because "weird hand gestures" is a bit vague as there are tons of hand gestures in the world.

Request granted. It's actually a selectable emote while playing PSU.


Like Eusis said, I'm pretty sure this is just overly animating the characters and nothing else. While I do know some people who have their hand out, face up while speaking, I don't think I've ever seen someone swing it around as wildly as that while trying to carry on a decent conversation.
1904  Media / Anime, TV, and Movies / Anime/Manga Journal on: February 20, 2007, 01:47:05 AM
Haven't posted here in a while.

I've watched Haruhi Suzumiya. I don't think there's a lot to say here, since half the people who come to the forum already watch it. I'm sure I missed a good amount of the inside jokes and references, but the ones I did get left were hilarious.

Still watching Mazinger Z, albeit at a really slow pace. I think I'm taking it at a slow pace since every episode doesn't fail to leave me laughing my ass off.

They sure were scientific in the 70s!

Of course, this is, without a doubt, my favorite one:

Wow, I feel LULL all over![/size]

He says "Wow", as if he's enjoying getting shocked to death. Oh, Kabuto Kouji, you and your wierd sexual fantasies.

Currently on Episode 7.

Mainly, I've been watching Eureka 7, which I'm done with now. I was thoroughly impressed by the series. Seems like BONES is on a streak with this anime along with Full Metal Alchemist.

Really basic story. Boy meet girl. Boy pilots robot. Boy kicks ass. But it's the execution that's really good to me. The show has a lot of very powerful and memorable moments. One particular scene I remember is one of a man, having recieved great hospitality from a stranger, holds in his tears until his goggles fog up. At times the music gets a little over-the-top and grand, though.

One thing that impresses me to no end is the quality of the animation. This is a 50-episode long series we have here, and it is beyond the quality of most 13-episode series I've seen recently. Granted, Studio BONES is pretty famous for their good-looking series. The battles are very fast-paced, and it's only supported even more by a great soundtrack. I highly recommend this series.
1905  The Rest / General Discussions / Name A Forum, 2007 Edition on: February 20, 2007, 12:59:24 AM
"The only place you can draw unintelligible shapes and be praised for it."
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