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Subject: Persona 3: FES
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Date: 3rd October 2014 Time: 16:00 EST
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 on: September 29, 2014, 09:00:24 PM 
Started by Lucca - Last post by Dice

I'm surprised and simultaneously impressed and depressed how many I recognized (not too hard though, a lot of FFV poked out, for one).  Ah well, love the clusterfuck of colours!

This crossover also simlutaneously makes the most sense and least sense.  It makes no sense because of the two shows picked, but the most sense because of how they react to the situation.  Brilliant

Dog vs. Mantis.

Double jointed like a...fucking....FOX.

Saved it, then killed it

 on: September 29, 2014, 08:24:32 PM 
Started by Daggerstrike - Last post by Dice
So someone just pointed this out to me...

Mind = blown

Another great episode and so far a pretty good season after a kind of rocky start.
Possibly the strangest way to tackle a love-triangle plot since Capaldi's character is so much different from Matt Smith's.  The villain was a write-off, but the interactions were perfect.

And also, Jenna Coleman has *massive*-sized eyes.

 on: September 29, 2014, 08:18:10 PM 
Started by Dice - Last post by Annubis
Accessing memories of FF7...
WARNING - File corrupted, last save dated: 12 years ago.

Ok, if I remember right, Jenovah is an alien that fell on Earth.
It was pretty much scientific curiosity that pushed them to try and recreate it as the original was already dead.
This is why there is a lot of talk about Jenovah cells since that's what they've been able to clone.
That armor/statue thing isn't really Jenovah. It's just some container for what they've managed to make up to now.
Sephiroth has Jenovah cells, but I don't remember what the goal of doing so was (that and the 1000s of clones/cult)

EDIT: yay! the peeps on Neogaf agree with my memory.

 on: September 29, 2014, 07:42:02 PM 
Started by Dice - Last post by Cyril
Loving this, Dice. I agree with the Kalm flashback.  It's a beautiful piece of storytelling.  FFVII in general absolutely nails unreliable narrator in a way I don't think any other game has. That being said, the flashback almost always makes me quit the game because, despite being wonderful from a narrative perspective, it's terribly, horribly boring to play through.  Well, that and I tend to enjoy the Midgar section of the game most and lose interest after that.

About Jenova, she is absolutely, 100% not an Ancient.  Though there's quite a bit of theory about what "she" might have been (a virus, for example), it is clear she isn't an Ancient.  For that matter, FFVII is truly sci-fi; the Ancients themselves are aliens and not native to the planet FFVII takes place on.

As for Barret, I see him as an extremely interesting character. Cursing aside, other than Cloud and Tifa he goes through the most character development in the game.  He's very conflicted about what he does, which starts showing up early on.  One thing to keep in mind was that AVALANCHE was actually a violent terrorist group and as the game goes on he begins to hate himself for his actions to the point where he gnaws away at himself.  Keep in mind how he reacts to Dyne and you'll see what I mean. He definitely falls more under "Atoner" than "brute with a heart of gold."  It's a bit sad, because even in AC he doesn't entitely live the way he wishes. After all, Marlene is still with Tifa.

I certainly don't see him as a mindless cliche, there was clearly a lot of thought put into his character.

 on: September 29, 2014, 07:39:32 PM 
Started by Dice - Last post by Klutz64
I love the villains in FFVII. One of my favorite things about the game is the fact that as much as Sephiroth is played up, there really is no "Main Villain." Shinra, Hojo, Jenova, Sephiroth... they all had to play their part to make the plot play out as it did.

 on: September 29, 2014, 07:36:28 PM 
Started by Lucca - Last post by Aeolus

So it's an image of a bunch of sprites either ripped directly from Earthbound, Breath of Fire 2, and a couple of Squaresoft games or Spriter's Resource (which consist of Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, and FFs IV-VI). I'm not seeing the woah dude.

 on: September 29, 2014, 07:31:21 PM 
Started by ULTROS! - Last post by Dice
Aston's review (which was very good btw) reminded me how silly Ludger's and Elle's first meeting goes....


That's a mean accusation there, little lady.  Had to, shmad to.

I also think this is possibly the strangest game to review.  It's getting good grades, and I'm happy, but I also don't think it deserves them --- even though I enjoyed ToX2 very much (more than the first).

 on: September 29, 2014, 07:23:27 PM 
Started by Lucca - Last post by Annubis

 on: September 29, 2014, 07:04:13 PM 
Started by Dice - Last post by Dice
Oh my, I may have started a trend :) Have fun!

Sorry for copying.  It's for love and game.  And because you had a good idea when I wanted 'more attention' covering a 'classic'.

Oooh, I'm glad you mentioned the menu portraits.  They're just gorgeous in FFVII. VIII and X (the other games with drawn portraits) just don't compare. VIII and X tend to have long neck syndrome as well, something VII avoided.  

Honestly, since the graphics "were what they were" at the time I thought they were the best and only really impressive representation of the characters for the title (future versions of them aside on the PS2 and in CG film).

I wonder... if FF7 were to be remade, would they go full-realism like Advent children or that in-between like Crisis Core was?  But honestly, I'd take the compromise.  A remaster with less shitty character models and HD'd pre-rendered backgrounds.

Leaving Midgar and off to Kalm for a long, long Flashback
In which we listen to a story of how things got fucky

= I love the transition from a highway escape in the high-tech Midgar to... Kalm, a town that looks (and sounds) like a nostalgic throwback to the last six Final Fantasy titles.  ...What with its extremely quaint look and calming music.

= Kalm cutscene takes forever.  So long it has an intermission!   But it's damn good.  

= One thing that's really getting to me this time around is the amount of foreshadowing during the Nibelheim Incident.  The fact that parts of Cloud's story isn't recalled well really makes this more than a simple "flashback" you have to sit through.  And I like that the party kind-of intervenes with the story because of minor issues and needs for clarification.  

=  Also, knowing the "big twist" makes it interesting to talk to that one "anonymous" blue-clad soldier.
Cloud is great at believing his own bullshit though.

= Why does the memory take him out of the bar when you go in?  Was it just cuz it didn't happen (and you, the player, are making it happen)?

= Any reason people in Nibelheim treat him like ass when he gets there too?  Is it just general Shinra hate?  I mean, I know the trees are dying and Hojo is doing some creepy shit up in the mountains; but the place hardly feels welcoming.

= Yeah I took the "Orthpedic underwear".  What could that possibly even do for someone??  (and do I wanna know?).

= Anyone have any thoughts on the letter in Tifa's room?  Who wrote it and why?  Or is it just to provide some "worldly context"?  
I like fan speculation sometimes.

= I also like that Cloud got a "younger" Menu Portrait where he looks more hot-blooded and facial features are rounder (like his less-pointy chin and bigger eyes) than his older portrait.  He also acts a bit more like a younger, eager idiot.

= I love when you meet Sephiroth in the basement when he goes nuts, the drums sound like a heart beat.  His crazy-walk is also kind of intimidating.

= The Makonoids are a severely underplayed and [wonderfully] creepy part of this game.  What a shame.

= So... I'm confused, is Jenova an Ancient?  Why does she look like that then?  What are the other Ancients compared to her and why the turmoil?  I always thought Jevonva was...basically a female Lavos (with an eye on her breast).  How is Sephiroth related to her (since his real mum is locked up in a waterfall).

= Just this scene.... wow

= So what does the "Fan think?  Is Barret a racist representation of a black man or simply fitting the stereotype for "angry black man" (with a heart of gold)?  I'm on the fence here; his cursing and love for his adopted daughter Marlene tickle me in the right ways.  But on the other hand, he looks like Mr. T (wait, that might be another thing I find amusing).  
Either way, I'm *all* for greater racial diversity in games.  Sazh was like one of three characters I liked in the FF13 saga (though the similarities between he and Barret are interesting)

Till the next one...!

 on: September 29, 2014, 04:22:55 PM 
Started by Eusis - Last post by natros
Tekken Tag 2 ruled my weekend. Picked it up on the cheap on Friday, and spent the following two days' free time earning in-game cash to make with the sexy female clothing unlocks.

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