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Artimicia

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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2205 on: August 03, 2017, 06:21:34 AM »
Ok i'm really done now, I'm just going to ignore American politics and news for a long time since it has no relevance to me and I'm tired of dealing with it.

Or more properly speaking, it and the massive majority of institutions surrounding it are basically just dead to me.
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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2206 on: August 03, 2017, 06:30:04 AM »
Giving Trump too much credit there. One of the scariest things about Nazi Germany wasn't the hate, but the efficiency with which they turned that hate into policy and law.

The thing with American politics is that right now is that Trump can't really get anything done. The democrats and republicans are entrenched in their own political war, and the president doesn't know anyway about how government works or what his job exactly is. It has gotten to the point where the people and organisations around him have started distancing themselves from Trump whenever he makes some 'official' twitter statement. Like the whole kicking trans people out of the army thing? The US army employs something like 15000 trans people. Removing them from their jobs is a logistical nightmare, so it's doubtful it'll happen anytime soon.

(Meanwhile, the biggest Dutch crisis: Eggs.)

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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2207 on: August 03, 2017, 06:52:47 AM »
There's those crazy Arti statements we miss.

As for Republicans distancing themselves from Trump- ah, yes, their tried and true strategy of "we don't support x except in all our think tanks, policy positions, and voting habits". Of course, it's not like conservatives have enough rationality to stop them from eating that shit up.

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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2208 on: August 03, 2017, 06:54:51 AM »
Well I just wrote another really long post explaining more detail about a lot of things, but it got eaten by the "someone new has posted do you want to double check" and now it's all gone.

But the essence of it was basically I read this and a whole bunch of other things

https://founders.archives.gov/?q=Project%3A%22Hamilton%20Papers%22%20Author%3A%22Hamilton%2C%20Alexander%22&s=1511311111&r=36

which describes in detail Alexander Hamilton's political philosophy and how it relates to a number of other issues. The parts that I found fascinating were

1. That he was basically insane as he does nothing but insult and derogate for ten zillion pages and which would make Aeolus look like a house mouse by comparison.

2. That some of the early points around America were sort of like replays of things in the present, such as America having to prove itself and as I was saying I was sort of sympathetic because they were trying to create something new and people were being dicks about it "Oh America? You'll be back to being in England's hands in no time, no big deal." It's too bad that that's how these things kinda went, and America has done right for some people, but it's also gone terribly wrong at times and the good acts do not wash out the bad, nor bad to good.

Specifically I think it can't be denied at all nor should it have ever been that people endeavoring to live in that simple happy consensual existence with the world have for no real good reason been unable to live as a part of that endeavor, and that sense what appears to have been good for many is in fact not good for all, and runing people's lives does not really make people want to be very friendly.

3. Some overt points were that for whatever reason he was racist towards the French and very pro-German and English, discriminatory in hiring on those points and it seems likely to conclude probably hateful based on sexual preferences and a host of other things as well.

4. A lot of this was detailed overtly stodgy statecraft in some sense that bears little resemblance to modern politics, old institutions and such were analyzed dozens of times over. The conclusions were that things like the Diet in Germany, or the Stadtholders in Holland, or the Amphiyotic something or other in Greece were ineffectively centralized and that then therefore the way to protect people's right to live "as with the hand of divinity writing over the whole volume of human nature" is simply

But all that discussion was been overtaken by kultur-kampf and nationalism and identities, so that simplistic bit by bit analyses of "3 years in office seems better than 6" is pretty much all gone in the modern realm, or afterthoughts, perhaps.

It's hard to believe he would not have modified his views in response to the likes of WW2 and such, but you never really know, with his streak of contrarianism he might of not changed his views. In fact he probably would of said that's precisely what's likely to happen when you have that de-centralized form of governance with the Diet and princes and electors all clashing with each other.

5. And yet, perhaps the singular most fatal flaw of the ironic "the best way to safeguard against tyranny is to pave the way for tyrants" is he seemed to fail to consider that someone would use that very same notion, the one specifically designed against Tyrants, by centralizing government, for the express purpose of Tyranny, because for that it would mean someone who shares those same American values would effectively "turn rogue" and that would be a worst cast scenario/nightmare because for him and people like him America "is" the safeguard against tyranny, there was no other nor should there have been.

I also think it's interesting that Holland was such a critical element in all these early discussions, since it's not really brought up much in the England/Germany/France/America nexus that seems always linked together. Also Holland sounds much nicer than the Netherlands.







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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2209 on: August 05, 2017, 08:32:05 AM »
Apparently, NASA put out a want-ad for a "Planetary Protection Officer" and the news is having a field day talking about NASA hiring a "guardian of the galaxy."  http://www.sacbee.com/news/article164974367.html

Right now Catharine Conley is our Planetary Protection Officer: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/meet-nasa-s-one-and-only-planetary-protection-officer/

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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2210 on: August 05, 2017, 02:14:54 PM »
I'll apply if I can change the job title to "Captain Planet"

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« Reply #2211 on: August 05, 2017, 02:54:47 PM »
I'll apply if I can change the job title to "Captain Planet"

I'd vouch for that one.

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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2212 on: August 09, 2017, 03:08:59 PM »
Apparently, NASA put out a want-ad for a "Planetary Protection Officer" and the news is having a field day talking about NASA hiring a "guardian of the galaxy."  http://www.sacbee.com/news/article164974367.html

Right now Catharine Conley is our Planetary Protection Officer: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/meet-nasa-s-one-and-only-planetary-protection-officer/

A nine year old boy applied for the job because his sister says he's an alien and because he's seen all the space and alien movies he can see, and hopes to see Men in Black in the future. All this among other things. It's pretty adorable, and NASA responded appropriately: https://www.buzzfeed.com/briannasacks/nine-year-old-applies-to-nasa-guardian-of-the-galaxy?utm_term=.xf34JXPKl#.ry78paxnB

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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2213 on: August 10, 2017, 07:42:36 PM »
Big game companies don't pay taxes:
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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2214 on: August 10, 2017, 08:04:12 PM »
Remember back in the 80s where the violence was incredibly worse but police depts at least verbally always strived to uphold this value



present day (I passed this sign on the way home)



so i guess this is going to be 2047





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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2215 on: August 10, 2017, 09:40:32 PM »
Remember back in the 80s where the violence was incredibly worse but police depts at least verbally always strived to uphold this value



Not really.

I do remember the days when everyone wasn't carrying a high-resolution camera with tons of storage on them at all times so the police could get away with a lot more shit.

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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2216 on: August 15, 2017, 02:12:17 AM »
This Charlottesville thing is chaos. 

During the election I was shocked to learn how many of my friends, family and acquaintances were racists or had very racist leanings.

Now, after neo-Nazis caused a bunch of violence that left 3 people dead, I'm still somehow naively shocked to learn how many of my friends, family and acquaintances not only fail to repudiate that sort of behavior but are downright sympathetic to Nazis and Nazi ideology.

I might not sleep a wink tonight...


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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2217 on: August 15, 2017, 09:49:37 AM »
they're not nazis rucks, they're just undergoing serious economic anxiety and are concerned about the preservation of the white race

the real nazis are antifa and black lives matter

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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2218 on: August 15, 2017, 10:03:21 AM »
they're not nazis rucks, they're just undergoing serious economic anxiety and are concerned about the preservation of the white race

the real nazis are antifa and black lives matter

FUIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I've heard this literal and completely unironic argument before, along with pages and pages and pages of revisionist idiots mental gymnastics claiming that Nazism/fascism is on the same political spectrum as socialism and that the left changed the definition of socialism in 2009 to distance itself from Nazis.

I got my history degree from Purdue in 2007. Nazism/Fascism was right wing then, because it has always been right wing, and this is all just another example that we live in a time when the definition of a thing doesn't agree with your agenda you can just go ahead and fabricate a completely new one for it that does agree and then hope/assume that everyone is too stupid or lazy to read up on it and call you out on your bullshit nonsense.


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Re: Today In The News
« Reply #2219 on: August 18, 2017, 07:02:03 AM »
The President of the United States waffles on whether nazis are bad and still 60% of Republicans support the way he handled his response (along with 10% of Democrats for whatever fucking reason). Imagine if after an attack by ISIS Obama said some stupid shit like "there's violence on both sides". Both parties are totally the same though.