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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7485 on: August 21, 2017, 03:03:06 PM »
The translation is definitely bad at times.

You ain't lyin'. I've laughed at it a few times already. Some pretty unnatural dialogue being thrown around at times.

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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7486 on: August 21, 2017, 05:37:24 PM »
Out of curiosity, is anyone here a Sonic fan? I picked up Sonic Mania because the buzz was unreal, and I am having an absolute blast with it. I'm on Zone 7, and it's a wonderful throwback to the 90s Genesis games with lots of new ideas and level designs mixed in. And the soundtrack is a dream. Makes Forces look even worse than it already looks like it will be.

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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7487 on: August 21, 2017, 06:21:28 PM »
Got in the mood to try FF Tactics again after Zodiac Age. Managed to make it to the 4th chapter already, but those first two were not really fun with the limited options unless you pinpoint level your jobs and spend time whacking your own characters like it's FF II again, which I refuse to do. But once I could deploy a full party and they got some skills going on, it's about as fun as FF V's system. Too bad my Ramza leveled like crazy at Chapter 3 and now every single mob is way deadlier than a story battle. Need to grind some passive abilities too, since there's this story battle character armed with 100% hit chance equipment breaking techs. Also my party is full generics and Ramza. Don't think I see a point leveling any "story characters" since they're way behind in JP and it's kind of lame they don't change their sprite when changing jobs. Kind of why TZA jobs also really didn't feel like jobs, even though I prefer the boards to vanilla.

Not sure how I feel about the story aspects of this game. I think the style has grown on me and the Chronicles have some interesting stuff and Easter Eggs to collect, but I don't think there is enough charisma here to call it a top tier FF-story. Too many things happen off-screen and a great many characters lack presence. Hell, you can even kick or kill your party members permanently other than Ramza, once they served their 1-2 story battles. But well, not like I have many other FFs left to play, so hopefully I can see this to the end.

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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7488 on: August 21, 2017, 06:24:56 PM »
You've pretty much won FFTactics when you get Cidolfas and use him. Definitely didn't like how characters were basically forgotten once they officially joined your party.

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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7489 on: August 21, 2017, 09:47:26 PM »
Don't think I see a point leveling any "story characters" since they're way behind in JP...

Even Agrias?  True, the story characters aren't always useful:  Rafa and Malak are unreliable, and Meliadoul's break skills are obsolesced before she even appears.  But Agrias joins up fairly early in the game, and her long-range sword skills are pretty handy, even as a secondary ability.

Definitely didn't like how characters were basically forgotten once they officially joined your party.
An extra line or two of dialogue, if they were present for a storyline battle, would not have gone amiss.

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« Reply #7490 on: August 22, 2017, 09:03:40 AM »
I just want to put it out there that Tactics' story is largely considered one of the best ever written for the medium.

Definitely didn't like how characters were basically forgotten once they officially joined your party.

This is one of the few really legit complaints against the game, but I guess we can't have everything.  I've always been a bit annoyed by it though.

Rafa and Malak are unreliable

In the WotL version, Rapha is one of the best characters in the game if built properly.  Marach not so much.
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« Reply #7491 on: August 22, 2017, 09:16:57 AM »
I just want to put it out there that Tactics' story is largely considered one of the best ever written for the medium.

Or any medium for that matter.  Put it on HBO and people would lose their minds over it.  It's Game of Thrones with lesser gods instead of dragons.
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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7492 on: August 22, 2017, 09:18:57 AM »
I just want to put it out there that Tactics' story is largely considered one of the best ever written for the medium.

Or any medium for that matter.  Put it on HBO and people would lose their minds over it.  It's Game of Thrones with lesser gods instead of dragons.

It is WAY better than Game of Thrones, let's not kid ourselves.
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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7493 on: August 22, 2017, 11:46:28 AM »
Lost Odyssey - Forgot how good looking and cool this game is. Love the style. The character models are great (especially Seth, who is totally hot, even if you could land a plane across her shoulders). Interesting story and characters so far. Nice mix of comedy and drama. Otherwise, the music is pretty good. Battling is immersive, and not too easy. Surviving boss encounters requires some strategy. Overall, I'm really enjoying the game.
I just got to the point where the starting trio are captured by the white army who seems to guarding the giant magic staff thingee.

EDIT: Fixed some really bad grammar.
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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7494 on: August 22, 2017, 01:40:27 PM »
Out of curiosity, is anyone here a Sonic fan? I picked up Sonic Mania because the buzz was unreal, and I am having an absolute blast with it. I'm on Zone 7, and it's a wonderful throwback to the 90s Genesis games with lots of new ideas and level designs mixed in. And the soundtrack is a dream. Makes Forces look even worse than it already looks like it will be.

That'll be my next download purchase. Looks amazing, and I loved the Genny Sonics growing up.

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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7495 on: August 22, 2017, 02:19:08 PM »
i'll get Mania on the Switch once a get my Switch back from all the people I loaned it to while I was waiting for something like Sonic Mania to come out on the Switch (which it's perfect for).

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« Reply #7496 on: August 22, 2017, 09:34:34 PM »
Lost Odyssey - Just finished up at the Crimson Forest. Mack just joined the team. His sister Cooke has been rendered jailbait by her outfit, and the game's camera. A little off-putting, honestly. She sounds like she's voiced by a Rugrats voice actor, so that's cool, at least.
The game comes on pretty strong with the feels, but Jansen is great comedy relief.

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« Reply #7497 on: August 22, 2017, 11:35:41 PM »
Got in the mood to try FF Tactics again after Zodiac Age. Managed to make it to the 4th chapter already, but those first two were not really fun with the limited options unless you pinpoint level your jobs and spend time whacking your own characters like it's FF II again, which I refuse to do. But once I could deploy a full party and they got some skills going on, it's about as fun as FF V's system. Too bad my Ramza leveled like crazy at Chapter 3 and now every single mob is way deadlier than a story battle. Need to grind some passive abilities too, since there's this story battle character armed with 100% hit chance equipment breaking techs. Also my party is full generics and Ramza. Don't think I see a point leveling any "story characters" since they're way behind in JP and it's kind of lame they don't change their sprite when changing jobs. Kind of why TZA jobs also really didn't feel like jobs, even though I prefer the boards to vanilla.

Not sure how I feel about the story aspects of this game. I think the style has grown on me and the Chronicles have some interesting stuff and Easter Eggs to collect, but I don't think there is enough charisma here to call it a top tier FF-story. Too many things happen off-screen and a great many characters lack presence. Hell, you can even kick or kill your party members permanently other than Ramza, once they served their 1-2 story battles. But well, not like I have many other FFs left to play, so hopefully I can see this to the end.

The Chapter 1 is annoying due to how stacked the early game is against you and your lack of Job options until Chapter 2 (seriously, you can't even buy equipment for most Jobs beyond the basic ones and anything that can sling a Sword or Knife around). Chapter 2 is perfectly fine right up until you lose 3/4ths of the map and start in on the escort quests and C2's endgame battles (you regain the ability to traverse the total unlocked map right as you gain access to the Lionel Castle battles, by which point you no longer need such capability as the worst is already behind you). Chapter 3 can be a little rough right up until Riovanes hits you upside the head with a brick wall, twice. Chapter 4 is basically the point where all the stupidly good toys are at and the game's difficulty curve shatters like glass (unless you have no sense of the game's meta mechanics and are shotgunning the plot, in which case it can still get tricky).


As for the characters, unfortunately, that's one of the biggest flaws of a game with the permadeath mechanic, as the developers can no longer guarantee that these non-generic PCs will be around past the first battle you have them available to you. Honestly, they should've dammed the torpedoes and went all in on available PC integration (hell, FFT doesn't even have FE's common problem of mutually exclusive characters), but then, I don't think the developers considered that the game would linger on in the gaming community's collective consciousness.

As for the non-generics' gameplay mechanics:
Ramza: MC and game's poster boy. Great stats but pretty ehh in ability until Chapter 4 where he unlocks some rather ridiculous toys. You can and should make him into anything that serves your purposes.
Radd/Alicia/that other female Knight from the intro: Well they're slightly better (emphasis on 'slightly') than actual generics, but Chapter 2 may already be too late if you aren't some kind of stat measuring min-maxer.
Boko: Shits Chocobos all over your bench, many of which will end up straight up better than him.
Mustido: Great at locking down opponents and can deal with undead to boot. That being said, he's very situation-dependent depending on what he's locking down (a Generic Knight isn't worth wasting a full character's turn holding down, but total assholes like Red Chocobos make him worth his weight in Gil). Also can make for a solid Chemist or Archer.
Agrias: Solid for when you get her, but horribly dependent on keeping up with due to that whole T.G. Cid thing, plus your Generics are probably heavily invested into their roles by now. Anything with a Sword or Magic is aces with her.
Rafa: OG version: Can Move/Find Item without the need to nuke her Brave much; PSP version: Ehh, but you can make her into a decent Wizard/Samurai in between treasure hunts.
Malak: OG version: GTFO; PSP version: Welcome to the Permabench.
Cidolfas: This guy is what happens when the game gives you an endgame crutch character long before the endgame. He lives up to his moniker of 'Thunder God' and is generous to boot. He straight up doesn't need anything else, but he doesn't mind subbing as a Knight or some other physical Job. Probably the single best case for an Equip: Whatever skill in the game.
Meliadoul: OG version: Lol, you didn't even bring your Chantage. PSP version: Well, you're not complete garbage anymore, but you're still way too late to even become a super generic like Agrias.
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Alma: The game's actual endgame crutch character. Too bad she fails this hard. At least she isn't wasting a deploy slot (although story battles with Guests automatically cuts one or two of your deploy slots; shit, she is wasting a deploy slot).
Worker No. 8: Gimmicky with a capital Gimmick. Can act as a long range cannon for about two round before he gets wrecked/runs out of HP and needs a Chemist to keep going. A better Mage Tank than Malak.
Beowulf: A Super Oracle (or whatever they called Green Mages in the PSP version). Wants Half MP and is also an excellent Zodiac Killer. He makes the second best case to specialize in debuffs.
Reis: Starts off useless and becomes marginably more useful once she properly joins. Kinda requires stuffing your bench with Dragons though to get the most of her (at least those Hydra count; I think...).
Byblios: Another almost totally generic monster. Hydras are better and you could get them before this guy.
Cloud: The biggest project character in the game. And even then, to get anything out of his base Job you need to shove a shitty weapon that you have to dig up into his hands. At least Finishing Touch is almost worth all of that effort and you can stuff him into the Calculator Job for maximum stat gains.
Luso: Ramza+. Too bad you've already got one, and you can't even switch him out for this loser.
Balthier: Mustido++. He comes built in with Poach just like Luso, but unlike Luso, he straight up eclipses his copy.
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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7498 on: August 23, 2017, 03:34:17 AM »
@Draak in respect to Mass Effect.

My take away from the whole enchilada was as follows. The game was fantastic in tons of respects just soooo incomplete it hurt.

Love it for what it is and not what it is not I say.

Let me just state, I adored it. The big fault for me was the inclusion of "probe deployed" and a gameplay loop that, once evident, REALLY feels like a grind eventually without the type of pay-off I'd felt I deserved for my efforts.

Final note: Make sure you do the loyalty quests as you progress as they are, hands down, the best content the title offers IMO
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Re: A Game Journal Reborn
« Reply #7499 on: August 23, 2017, 09:57:28 PM »
Hit the 24-hour mark in DQ83DS. I really love the improved item synthesis system since it shows which items are usable in creating new ones while darkening out those that aren't, and I can more easily keep healing items on hand in case my healers run out of MP since the synthesis occurs instantaneously. I've been using Angelo and Jessica mostly as magicians and the hero and Yangus as my heavy-hitters. Right now I have to go to the sculptor's tower, and am down to three party members.