Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

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Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« on: September 16, 2011, 07:29:07 PM »

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/09/mandatory-ps3-update-removes-right-to-join-in-a-class-action-lawsuit.ars

Sony you so crazy.


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 07:30:56 PM »

Would this actually hold up in court? I'm no lawyer...


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 09:35:20 PM »

Fuck no. At least for people who use fake names like me. Christa Serran signed that agreement so Kaylyn Andrea is free to do as she pleases.


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 09:40:47 PM »

Quote from: Kevadu on September 16, 2011, 07:30:56 PM

Would this actually hold up in court? I'm no lawyer...

It can because of the Supreme Court ruling that allowed this to happen in the first place. The recent one involving AT&T as I recall and cellphone contracts.


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2011, 11:27:11 PM »

Quote from: Eusis on September 16, 2011, 09:40:47 PM

Quote from: Kevadu on September 16, 2011, 07:30:56 PM

Would this actually hold up in court? I'm no lawyer...

It can because of the Supreme Court ruling that allowed this to happen in the first place. The recent one involving AT&T as I recall and cellphone contracts.

The women workers' v. Walmart case a few months back was the one that the Supreme Court ruled that as corporations are now considered individual citizens it would be unfair to allow the many (a collective of individuals who largely have little to no experience or knowledge of the legal system nor the resources to hire someone who does but shares a common grievance against that which they are suing) to gang up on the one (corporate entity comprised of many individuals, some of whom have years of professional training and experience in conducting legal battles, and others that can easily afford someone who has years of professional training and experience in conducting legal battles in their behalf).

In addition that women working at Walmart don't deserve the same wages and benefits that male workers do.

I'm frankly surprised the Supreme Court hasn't ruled in favor of a corporation forming and keeping a private militia yet.


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2011, 11:38:41 PM »

Quote from: Eusis on September 16, 2011, 09:40:47 PM

Quote from: Kevadu on September 16, 2011, 07:30:56 PM

Would this actually hold up in court? I'm no lawyer...

It can because of the Supreme Court ruling that allowed this to happen in the first place. The recent one involving AT&T as I recall and cellphone contracts.

Wait, what? Isn't this technically Ex Post Facto- how can the Supreme Court rule for that?


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 03:38:40 PM »

Quote from: Hathen on September 16, 2011, 11:38:41 PM

Quote from: Eusis on September 16, 2011, 09:40:47 PM

Quote from: Kevadu on September 16, 2011, 07:30:56 PM

Would this actually hold up in court? I'm no lawyer...

It can because of the Supreme Court ruling that allowed this to happen in the first place. The recent one involving AT&T as I recall and cellphone contracts.

Wait, what? Isn't this technically Ex Post Facto- how can the Supreme Court rule for that?

Here's the story about the court case.


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 03:43:17 PM »

I also thought that this wasn't legal. It's BS.


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 10:30:17 PM »

I just realized I can still sue Sony, but since I used a fake name and address what can I sue them for?


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2011, 12:15:50 PM »

Nothing. Harm to an imaginary person isn't a great argument.

On another note, man am I glad I left Sony's ship years ago.


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2011, 11:26:31 PM »

Frustrating thing is EVERYONE'S doing stupid shit, comparatively this is benign simply because it's more the Supreme Court's fault, everyone is apparently just taking advantage of an opportunity they were granted through that court ruling (which means, in theory, MS, Nintendo, maybe even Valve could jump on that boat), but you have Xbox Live's Auto Renew only being allowed over the phone UNLESS you live in Illinois (or fake your address), and Nintendo's digital purchases being bound to the system you bought them and allow undeletable saves.


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 05:27:13 AM »

The problem with faking the address is that it wont let you use the credit card for anything else unless you have the correct zip code in your address.Though of course there's a possibility you could bypass that by just typing in the wrong zip code after you buy something.


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 07:28:31 AM »

Man, and I was gonna buy some candy with the $4 I was going to get from that lawsuit. Class actions are useless except to lawyers and the first couple of people to start the lawsuit.


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 08:07:25 AM »

Regardless, this is Sony telling you, "We will fuck up again in the future, and when we do no collective action can be taken against us."


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Re: Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join class-action lawsuit

« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 10:34:21 AM »

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If you decide not to agree to the new agreement, you simply won't be able to play games online.

Don't sign! If you're offline you're safe. But...err, stay indoors in case Sony tries to force you to sign.

Is anyone going to bother sending a letter to Sony to opt out?


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