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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #90 on: October 23, 2011, 10:01:57 PM »
I actually really love water dungeons, even OoT's. I love the serene atmosphere that water dungeons possess. And the Zelda series has done a lot more justice to water dungeons than Fire dungeons, I'd say. Every time they have a water dungeon, they mix it up with some other theme and make it really unique. OoTs has this interesting Buddhist temple feel about it, and manages to have some of the most interesting and large vistas in the game. Majora's Mask mixed things up with an interesting "power grid" theme. Twilight Princess's was just gorgeous, sporting an Art Nouveu design with beautiful architecture, and interesting multi-room puzzles.

IMO, OoT's fire temple is quite possibly the most boring dungeon in the series. Very few lava dungeons interest me, they're pretty much all the same: dodge fireballs and cross lava pools while traversing dull red-orange caverns. It's not just Zelda too: Mario, Zelda, Metroid... hell, half the time I get OoT's Fire Temple and Magmoor Caverns mixed up, and seeing as though one is high fantasy and the other is dark sci fi, that shouldn't happen. However, on the flip side (haha, see the pun?) Twilight Princess really turned the lava dungeon on its head with the whole magmatism thing. Maybe that's why I love Twilight Princess so much, even though all the dungeons are typical elemental themed, they all diverged from the original themes and came up with really unique ideas.

Actually OoT's Fire Temple was interesting due to the occasional tension that pervaded rooms with pits that dropped you back to the bottom floor (getting the Megatron Hammer was a pain in the ass thanks to slightly imprecise controls and the short amount of time to actually get to said Hammer). The rest was pretty bland though.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #91 on: October 23, 2011, 10:08:48 PM »
I was always fond of Spirit Temple--though possibly because I love the Mirror Shield. I still find Shadow Temple quite haunting and it definitely has the best atmosphere of anywhere in the game.



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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #92 on: October 23, 2011, 10:23:29 PM »
I was always fond of Spirit Temple--though possibly because I love the Mirror Shield. I still find Shadow Temple quite haunting and it definitely has the best atmosphere of anywhere in the game.

Forest Temple took that for me.  Despite being a Temple, it was kinda cozy, and more manor-like.  I liked how it has a proper outdoor area too.  I like this dungeon because it has versatility, and the song felt like it took you to the thick of a forest.

That being said, I kinda wish the Fire Temple kept the original Islamic chanting or at least went with a substituted version of it (just chanting).  I thought it gave it some interesting worldly appeal.  I like when the series introduces more "ethnic" musical flavours (Dragon Roost and Gerudo wonderfully taking the South American stylings).

I totally agree with the serene settings of the Water Temple.  Along with the Art Noveu look in TP, I like how the music had a kinda of "pirate" sound to it (a deep cello kicks in every so often).  I actually found THIS water temple a bigger pain in the ass than OOTs.  I can't wait for Skyward Sword's if it means you can swim like a mad man from (what seems like) the get-go.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #93 on: October 24, 2011, 12:17:22 AM »
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IMO, OoT's fire temple is quite possibly the most boring dungeon in the series. Very few lava dungeons interest me, they're pretty much all the same: dodge fireballs and cross lava pools while traversing dull red-orange caverns. It's not just Zelda too: Mario, Zelda, Metroid...

Yeeeeeeeeeeah.

I didn't find the fire temple boring so much a irritating. There were some LttP dungeons I found more boring because they were sort of samey, but... lava + timed shit + too easy to fall GOD THAT FUCKING HAMMER.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #94 on: October 24, 2011, 02:48:04 AM »
I don't want to sound arrogant (it's not my intention, I'm just a bit surprised), but have you all really had that much trouble with the hammer? I've played OoT a lot of times and I can only recall falling off once.



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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #95 on: October 24, 2011, 09:25:47 AM »
I don't want to sound arrogant (it's not my intention, I'm just a bit surprised), but have you all really had that much trouble with the hammer? I've played OoT a lot of times and I can only recall falling off once.

Same here, actually.
Took me two tries; once to figure out "wtf" and the other to get the thing.

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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #96 on: October 24, 2011, 12:43:37 PM »
I was always fond of Spirit Temple--though possibly because I love the Mirror Shield. I still find Shadow Temple quite haunting and it definitely has the best atmosphere of anywhere in the game.

Forest Temple took that for me.  Despite being a Temple, it was kinda cozy, and more manor-like.  I liked how it has a proper outdoor area too.  I like this dungeon because it has versatility, and the song felt like it took you to the thick of a forest.

That being said, I kinda wish the Fire Temple kept the original Islamic chanting or at least went with a substituted version of it (just chanting).  I thought it gave it some interesting worldly appeal.  I like when the series introduces more "ethnic" musical flavours (Dragon Roost and Gerudo wonderfully taking the South American stylings).

I totally agree with the serene settings of the Water Temple.  Along with the Art Noveu look in TP, I like how the music had a kinda of "pirate" sound to it (a deep cello kicks in every so often).  I actually found THIS water temple a bigger pain in the ass than OOTs.  I can't wait for Skyward Sword's if it means you can swim like a mad man Zora from (what seems like) the get-go.

First off, fixed.

Second, the Islamic Chanting really doesn't do all that much to improve the Fire Temple experience. Granted anything's better than the rampant dead air that the edited version but the chanting itself is also kinda overrated.

And finally, if I remember correctly the Hammer is much easier to get with the Scarecrow song (either that or the chest in the other tower).
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #97 on: October 24, 2011, 01:10:32 PM »
I was always fond of Spirit Temple--though possibly because I love the Mirror Shield. I still find Shadow Temple quite haunting and it definitely has the best atmosphere of anywhere in the game.

Forest Temple took that for me.  Despite being a Temple, it was kinda cozy, and more manor-like.  I liked how it has a proper outdoor area too.  I like this dungeon because it has versatility, and the song felt like it took you to the thick of a forest.

That being said, I kinda wish the Fire Temple kept the original Islamic chanting or at least went with a substituted version of it (just chanting).  I thought it gave it some interesting worldly appeal.  I like when the series introduces more "ethnic" musical flavours (Dragon Roost and Gerudo wonderfully taking the South American stylings).

I totally agree with the serene settings of the Water Temple.  Along with the Art Noveu look in TP, I like how the music had a kinda of "pirate" sound to it (a deep cello kicks in every so often).  I actually found THIS water temple a bigger pain in the ass than OOTs.  I can't wait for Skyward Sword's if it means you can swim like a mad man Zora from (what seems like) the get-go.

First off, fixed.

Second, the Islamic Chanting really doesn't do all that much to improve the Fire Temple experience. Granted anything's better than the rampant dead air that the edited version but the chanting itself is also kinda overrated.

And finally, if I remember correctly the Hammer is much easier to get with the Scarecrow song (either that or the chest in the other tower).

I liked the chanting -- as you said it was better than the dross they had in it now as a make-shift replacement.  It added more character.  I'm not DYING because it isn't in there. :P
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #98 on: October 24, 2011, 01:35:35 PM »
I do want to state that that Islamic Chanting was the "the Shahada", the islamic conversion prayer "There's only one god and Muhammed is his prophet".  I personally think the reason they removed it is less about angering muslims, and more about christian fundies having a field day crying how video games are corrupting our children and the usual BS they love to spurt.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #99 on: October 24, 2011, 01:49:00 PM »
I do want to state that that Islamic Chanting was the "the Shahada", the islamic conversion prayer "There's only one god and Muhammed is his prophet".  I personally think the reason they removed it is less about angering muslims, and more about christian fundies having a field day crying how video games are corrupting our children and the usual BS they love to spurt.

Yeah, I heard to the same effect: it is a legit prayer.
I'm surprised they didn't sub it with just islamic-esque gibberish or whatever (hell, Ar Tonelico made a series out of it).
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #100 on: October 24, 2011, 05:32:08 PM »
I dunno if this happened anywhere else in the world, but when LittleBigPlanet 1 came out here it was initially recalled to have part of the soundtrack removed. One of the levels had some sort of (if I remember correctly) references to the Quran in the music.



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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #101 on: October 28, 2011, 02:39:28 AM »
Anyone see the brand new GTTV trailer? Looks pretty awesome. It reveals a lot about the story (especially the ending).

I'm guessing that blonde-haired girl shown in trailers is Impa? I'm pretty sure this video confirms it.

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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #102 on: November 01, 2011, 09:17:57 PM »
http://www.zeldadungeon.net/2011/11/skyward-sword-exclusive-link-pooping-video/

Link in the loo.  It "sounds" like a false alarm, maybe his stomach hurt and he just farted a bit.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #103 on: November 02, 2011, 11:41:37 AM »
http://www.zeldadungeon.net/2011/11/skyward-sword-exclusive-link-pooping-video/

Link in the loo.  It "sounds" like a false alarm, maybe his stomach hurt and he just farted a bit.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
« Reply #104 on: November 09, 2011, 04:23:01 AM »
The first few scores have been posted on metacritic and it looks like something special. Edge magazine appears to have given it 10/10 and they really don't do that often.