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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2012, 12:00:42 PM »
This isn't a western v japanese game argument. These models are just nasty and I'm going to have a hard time caring about "people" that look like that

I'll never understand sentiments like that considering it wasn't that hard for your average human being not even 30 years ago to care about 'people' who looked like this. A person is a person regardless of what quality of graphics are used to represent them.

This isn't 30 years ago and this game isn't meant to be a nod to retro stylizations of days gone by. I don't expect everything to be ff13 quality but is it wrong to expect a little more effort out of a handheld that costs more than 250 after you get all the addons?

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2012, 01:42:32 PM »
There's a japanese trailer out and the character models look absolutely terrible. I wish they stuck with static images because they essentially looked like N64 rendered characters.

They're not TERRIBLE, but the static images were definitely better. Loved the animated touches, too.

That said, I love the renaming, and I'm there for the Vita version.

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2012, 02:34:00 PM »
I'm still gonna get it, and if the character models don't hinder the thing I will eat my crow on this board, rest assured.

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2012, 03:23:04 PM »
This isn't a western v japanese game argument. These models are just nasty and I'm going to have a hard time caring about "people" that look like that

I'll never understand sentiments like that considering it wasn't that hard for your average human being not even 30 years ago to care about 'people' who looked like this. A person is a person regardless of what quality of graphics are used to represent them.

This isn't 30 years ago and this game isn't meant to be a nod to retro stylizations of days gone by. I don't expect everything to be ff13 quality but is it wrong to expect a little more effort out of a handheld that costs more than 250 after you get all the addons?

There's a difference between 'I expect X graphics quality for my Y dollars' versus 'I can't empathize with a character because the graphics aren't quite right'. I interpreted your statement about 'having a hard time caring' as the second, rather than the first (which I agree with you on).

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2012, 01:22:09 AM »
This isn't a western v japanese game argument. These models are just nasty and I'm going to have a hard time caring about "people" that look like that

I'll never understand sentiments like that considering it wasn't that hard for your average human being not even 30 years ago to care about 'people' who looked like this. A person is a person regardless of what quality of graphics are used to represent them.

This isn't 30 years ago and this game isn't meant to be a nod to retro stylizations of days gone by. I don't expect everything to be ff13 quality but is it wrong to expect a little more effort out of a handheld that costs more than 250 after you get all the addons?

There's a difference between 'I expect X graphics quality for my Y dollars' versus 'I can't empathize with a character because the graphics aren't quite right'. I interpreted your statement about 'having a hard time caring' as the second, rather than the first (which I agree with you on).

Something that's been bothering me lately ZH is your avatar. What iz it man!?
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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2012, 09:32:31 AM »
I think the character models are fine. If the company doesn't have much of a track record doing 3D models, I wouldn't expect them to be great the first time.
Remember how Atelier Rorona looks in comparison to Totori ? Gust, a company that didn't make 3D games they sure got a lot better with just about an year time.

I think it's the same here. This time it's just alright but in next installments they will probably get a lot better.

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2012, 10:25:24 AM »

Something that's been bothering me lately ZH is your avatar. What iz it man!?

It's the cover to my novel. XD I switched it out from the old one since my publisher wanted me to try a new one to see if it had any effect on sales and all that jazz. It's my way of subtle advertising without spamming up a topic or slapping a banner ad across a signature.

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2012, 10:35:59 AM »
I was browsing on Amazon when I saw that pre-orders were open for both 3DS and PSP! Apparently the title "Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward" seems official and the announced realease date is October 23th!
I have fury!

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2012, 01:27:02 PM »
I'll admit it. I was more than half expecting this to get canned like Grand Knights History.


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Something that's been bothering me lately ZH is your avatar. What iz it man!?

It's the cover to my novel. XD I switched it out from the old one since my publisher wanted me to try a new one to see if it had any effect on sales and all that jazz. It's my way of subtle advertising without spamming up a topic or slapping a banner ad across a signature.

Before I forget again, what's the name of said novel? In case I want to, you know, look it up or read it.
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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2012, 01:32:11 PM »
I was browsing on Amazon when I saw that pre-orders were open for both 3DS and PSP! Apparently the title "Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward" seems official and the announced realease date is October 23th!

It's been the official English name for a few months now. The date is not official.

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2012, 01:35:25 PM »
I'll admit it. I was more than half expecting this to get canned like Grand Knights History.

Follow the Aksys team on twitter. They're talking about the localization non-stop, including voice acting.

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2012, 01:37:46 PM »
I'll admit it. I was more than half expecting this to get canned like Grand Knights History.

Follow the Aksys team on twitter. They're talking about the localization non-stop, including voice acting.

I need to pay more attention to Aksys. *facepalm*
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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2012, 01:41:10 PM »
I'll admit it. I was more than half expecting this to get canned like Grand Knights History.

I'll be blunt here: that's an idiotic expectation given Chunsoft has shown no signs of being in serious trouble, and we RARELY see news of a game getting canned after being announced for localization. That, and this is a release for newer platforms, the 3DS is healthy enough to survive for awhile I think so worst case scenario would've been the Vita version getting canned, but I don't believe the Vita's THAT disastrous of a failure just yet (and at least some niche games are doing well, NIS was pleased with Disgaea 3's performance in Japan.)

Well, and we usually see a long, awkward silence, the time from announcement hasn't been THAT long.

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2012, 01:42:55 PM »
AksysGames_Ben is doing most of the localization talk. Plus, after the success of 999 I really doubt they'd can VLR anyway. Grand Knights History was a really, REALLY rare exception of a game being cancelled AFTER a localization was announced.

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Re: Good People Will Die
« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2012, 02:01:44 PM »
Only other two cases that spring to mind are Dragon Warrior IV on PS1 (similar situation to Grand Knights History, developer couldn't be relied upon and it wasn't worth the trouble of getting someone else to hack it in), and Umihara Kawase for PSP from Natsume, which could either have been SCEA rejection with Natsume announcing prematurely, or because it was a poor remake/port of a PS1 game. Shame the apparently superior DS version that came later was entirely ignored, but I guess the DS was not in a healthy spot for niche games at that time.