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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #196 on: May 05, 2013, 10:11:12 PM »
Nah. There's no chance in hell that Squeenix would be cool enough to make Snow and Serah-chan's excellent adventure paradox ending feature as anything more than a doofy/useless key item/collectable essential to 100% completion and nothing else.

Also, yay, more puzzle fights that you have to meta powergame/guide dammit to have a chance at solving within 2 minutes/tries then slogging through for the next 2 hours to get the sword of infinity +1 needed for 100% completion and nothing else.
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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #198 on: June 06, 2013, 11:55:55 AM »
^There. Edited my previous post with the news that came out recently.

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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #199 on: June 06, 2013, 12:19:18 PM »
Okay the box art for that Ultimate Box's original FFXIII looks pretty rad.
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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #200 on: June 06, 2013, 06:26:36 PM »
How the fuck does someone make an Ultimate Box without putting her stupid ass sunglasses in them>!?!?!?!??

Am I the only one who think the Play Arts figures are kinda weird and odd looking?

Ah well.  Trailer looked ok, not much gameplay, and the story seems to hit a new pinnacle of nonsense.  If I have money, maybe I'll buy (if reviews are good)
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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #201 on: June 06, 2013, 08:36:24 PM »
Am I the only one who think the Play Arts figures are kinda weird and odd looking?

Sometimes yeah.

Trailer looked ok, not much gameplay, and the story seems to hit a new pinnacle of nonsense.

I don't know. Star Ocean and (part of) FFVIII are way worse in my mind.

But you know, opinions.

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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #202 on: June 06, 2013, 08:49:34 PM »
Am I the only one who think the Play Arts figures are kinda weird and odd looking?

Sometimes yeah.

Trailer looked ok, not much gameplay, and the story seems to hit a new pinnacle of nonsense.

I don't know. Star Ocean and (part of) FFVIII are way worse in my mind.

But you know, opinions.

FFVIII turned into a "trip" after the first disc, IMO.  I couldn't tell you the plot if my life depended on it today.  (*bang*)

Star Ocean may be ridiculous, but I can't let go of 13-2 having Serah yell at Hope from the future to fix the problem.

And in any case, I play most of these games for the gameplay than the plot (and if reviews can score it well there, then consider it sold).
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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #203 on: June 06, 2013, 09:20:53 PM »
Star Ocean may be ridiculous, but I can't let go of 13-2 having Serah yell at Hope from the future to fix the problem.

And I can't let go of the dumb ass plot twist in SO3.

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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #204 on: June 06, 2013, 09:32:37 PM »
Snow actually looks pretty cool now, the combat system doesn't look too bad, I may bite on the collector's edition.
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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #205 on: June 06, 2013, 10:56:39 PM »
I am one of those weirdo's that really liked the XIII so I'll get this eventually once it drops in price. If reviews are really good I might get it, but I'm a little wary since the weirdness and music of XIII-2 was good, but the rest of it was meh. Can't wait to see more gameplay though, I like the look of it so far.
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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #206 on: June 06, 2013, 11:07:24 PM »
I keep telling people that the criticism that the XIII series has recieved is overblown, but then they are all like:



So I don't even care anymore. *shrug*

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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #207 on: June 06, 2013, 11:19:24 PM »
Well it is overblown at this point certainly. It seems like it will forever be the legacy of XIII and it is an easy way to poke fun at the game and myself. Remember FFVIII is remembered for not being VII, drawing out magic and having the worst plot-twist of all time.
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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #208 on: June 06, 2013, 11:19:49 PM »
I loved FFXIII apart from the incredibly tedious endgame. XIII-2 managed to improve on the gameplay, but didn't even bother trying to make a coherent cross-series plot. Sure, the plot on it's own was....decent, but I could never get past the LAAAAAAAAAAME excuse to how the ending to XIII "didn't happen." That and the lore established in XIII has fuck-all to do with the plot in XIII-2.

Oh well, I'll pick up Lightning Returns b/c I'm a total sucker, and I most definitely will buy the inevitable LE Strategy Guide because I have the other two and I have some strange love of hard cover strategy guides.
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Re: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, The Last 13 Days
« Reply #209 on: June 06, 2013, 11:31:36 PM »
I loved FFXIII apart from the incredibly tedious endgame. XIII-2 managed to improve on the gameplay, but didn't even bother trying to make a coherent cross-series plot. Sure, the plot on it's own was....decent, but I could never get past the LAAAAAAAAAAME excuse to how the ending to XIII "didn't happen." That and the lore established in XIII has fuck-all to do with the plot in XIII-2.

Oh well, I'll pick up Lightning Returns b/c I'm a total sucker, and I most definitely will buy the inevitable LE Strategy Guide because I have the other two and I have some strange love of hard cover strategy guides.

I think that summed it up really, really well.
Also snowballing in the campy drama (made worse especially in 13-2...and mainly just with FF Sweethearts Snow and Serah...and a bit of Gaius).

I do mark the gameplay as being pretty good and *definitely* different.... I just don't know if high-speed auto-battles is a good route in the future since it takes away a lot of the control from the player in terms of options.

Yes, a lot of the criticisms are strong, but it could also be just a lot of exposure to "less-than-warm" reactions rather than outright hate.

Plots are a...considerably important thing in FF games, so the lack of consistency in the games really shuts out whatever "vision" they had with the first game.  We've gone from Machine-Gods[?], to Time Travel, to....FF-Majora's Mask.

FF13 I think *IS* a pretty good game (I actually loved the hell out of the battle system, it's simple, but damn addictive), but...it just felt so empty.  More than just corridors, I just felt like there was reaallly little to actually play.  It had no chocobo games, mini-games, proper sidequests (beyond weird epitaph...things), and what was probably the most obnoxious weapon upgrade system ever (so say shit about Star Ocean all you want, but tri-Ace knows what they're doing there).

It's a contentious title to be sure.  Yeah some love the hell out of it, but I think it's just one of those games that sorta lives in infamy due to the series reputation, the divergent route it took compared to previous games, and (while revolutionizing some ideas) also had some questionable design decisions.

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