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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2012, 01:46:12 PM »

Lucas was always terrible with star wars. Episode IV was a fluke, then V and VI had scripts written by different people. Lucas has always been a good conceptualist, but a terrible writer. Some of the dialog in Episode IV is absolute dishwater. It survives only because of its unique charm. He had less of a direct impact on V and VI, and they had some really good people calling the shots. I-III had Lucas back at the helm, and it showed. Getting him out will be a great step forward. JJ Abrams wouldn't be bad, he's done a good job taking over where Spielberg left off. Just... please, leave the Michael Giacchino at the door! Some director/composer duos are a match made in heaven (Burton/Elfman), Abrams/Giacchino isn't one of them. Giacchino taking over Jerry Goldsmith was bad enough, taking over John Williams would be a crime. Look, he's not a bad composer, and sometimes he's downright amazing (LOST), but he hasn't done a single score that I found to be really forward and calls attention to itself, which Star Wars has always had. Giacchino is more of a "stay in the background" sort of composer, which isn't always a bad thing, but it's not what Star Wars needs (or Star Trek for that matter). Star Wars is practically an opera, the music is just as central as the characters!
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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2012, 04:51:47 PM »

I've never thought of the opera angle. I'm pretty sure IV has a continuous soundtrack. I can think of tons of scenes in that movie and immediately associate the soundtrack with it. Despite cheesy lines, IV had the benefit of at least having good and sincere delivery. I believed that Luke is a hopeful youth caught up in adventure, etc.
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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2012, 06:24:16 PM »

What doesn't help Episode IV's case is the vast majority of JRPGs adhering to the same story formula like the adhesive of a sales tag to the cover of a pre-owned videogame. And a couple even managed to do it better.
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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2012, 06:38:48 PM »

What that has to do with anything... is anyone's guess.
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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2012, 07:42:33 PM »

What doesn't help Episode IV's case is the vast majority of JRPGs adhering to the same story formula like the adhesive of a sales tag to the cover of a pre-owned videogame. And a couple even managed to do it better.

The monomyth. It's a natural fit for most video games.
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« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2012, 06:42:28 AM »

They didn't invent it, and no one claims they did. The chinese have their Kung Foo masters and monks, the Japanese have their Samurai, europeans have similar stories in our knights.
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« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2012, 01:24:17 PM »

They didn't invent it, and no one claims they did. The chinese have their Kung Foo masters and monks, the Japanese have their Samurai, europeans have similar stories in our knights.

Nor did I say they did either. Hell I assumed it was common knowledge that the concept for Episode IV was swiped from the Japanese movie The Hidden Fortress among other things (which once again borrows from the monomyth).
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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2012, 01:57:32 PM »

Michael Arndt to write Screenplay for Star Wars: Episode VII -- Source: StarWars.com
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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2012, 01:59:29 PM »


Interesting match.  But hey, if what's his name could do an apparently outstanding job with Skyfall, I'd like to see this.

...something tells me we'll see a post about creative differences at some point though.
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« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2012, 08:16:21 PM »

I think Arndt is skilled at creating quality characters and good dialogue. Those are both things that Star Wars sorely needs-- I'm really quite excited to see where this goes. I haven't been this optimistic about Star Wars since I was a little kid waiting for Phantom Menace.
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