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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2013, 10:28:43 PM »

Whoa....wasn't looking to start a whole argument about the series or the game. The main question was trying to find out how far I was in the game. I'm in the middle of that forest just defeated a boss and am heading south so far. Maybe 80% done with the main game not sure
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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2013, 10:52:36 PM »

What did it look like?
I'm guessing it was an Elder Wyrm or Rafflesia based on this guide I have.
Elder Wyrm is about 50% and Rafflesia is maybe 70% into it.
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2013, 10:58:36 PM »

The second one so maybe 75% done
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« Reply #48 on: February 15, 2013, 08:09:49 AM »

It's just an attempt to validate buying that piece of shit called the Wii. If Xenoblade had been on PS3 or xbob, or even pc, it would have been AT BEST a mediocre title. For some reason, when you have a mediocre game on the Wii, it becomes amazing.
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This is the biggest load of horseshit I have read all week.

I played Xenoblade with the classic controller. Could just have easily have been played with the 360 controller or Dual shock and the game would still have been fuck awesome.
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« Reply #49 on: February 15, 2013, 09:34:45 AM »

It's just an attempt to validate buying that piece of shit called the Wii. If Xenoblade had been on PS3 or xbob, or even pc, it would have been AT BEST a mediocre title. For some reason, when you have a mediocre game on the Wii, it becomes amazing.
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This is the biggest load of horseshit I have read all week.

I played Xenoblade with the classic controller. Could just have easily have been played with the 360 controller or Dual shock and the game would still have been fuck awesome.

I agree with Lard.  I NEVER play my Wii, dusted it off for Xenoblade in December and thought it was a fantastic game.
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« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2013, 01:13:49 PM »

It's just an attempt to validate buying that piece of shit called the Wii. If Xenoblade had been on PS3 or xbob, or even pc, it would have been AT BEST a mediocre title. For some reason, when you have a mediocre game on the Wii, it becomes amazing.
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This is the biggest load of horseshit I have read all week.

I played Xenoblade with the classic controller. Could just have easily have been played with the 360 controller or Dual shock and the game would still have been fuck awesome.
I don't disagree with you often Lard, but I have to now. Xenoblade would not have been as popular on any other console at all. The level of content would have been incredibly lackluster. Do I agree Xenoblade wasn't a bad game, absolutely. It offered a solid story, great music, and impressive visuals. Did the game have faaaaaarrrrrrr to many fetch quests, without a fucking doubt. Would I have said the same positives about it if it were an xbob or pstriple title, no fucking chance. It and the last story made the Wii almost tolerable this generation.

Also, it's beyond a shadow of a doubt better than ffxii.
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« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2013, 11:11:15 AM »

I just know that I finished Xenoblade over a month ago and I still have "This is the Monados power!" and "We can really do this!" stuck in my head.
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« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2013, 09:12:42 PM »

I don't disagree with you often Lard, but I have to now. Xenoblade would not have been as popular on any other console at all. The level of content would have been incredibly lackluster.


The first part is just flat out wrong. No idea what you mean by the second part.

Also, it's beyond a shadow of a doubt better than ffxii.

This, at least, we agree on.
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« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2013, 12:50:37 PM »

I really can't word it any better than how I did. None of the rpgs I've played on xbob and ps3 were so terribly lacking...except maybe Ar Tonelico Qoga which was a horrible game itself. Xenoblade's content was the story and those lame fetch quests. I can't help but feel that if this were developed for xbob or ps3, there would have been more to it, maybe seceret dungeons or a casino or a set of mini quests for special weapons....anything to feel like all the mind numbing grinding was worth something.

I doubt I can ever get enough of saying this, but those fucking fetch quests took a great game and made it suck for me.
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« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2013, 01:24:32 PM »

Saying a game is popular only because it's on a particular console is ridonkulous.

It's like saying Uncharted 2 is only popular because it was on PS3.
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« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2013, 01:26:20 PM »

Maybe, but at the same time, do you think Uncharted would have been the same game if it came out on the Wii?
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« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2013, 08:06:20 PM »

Not graphically, but if you could use the classic controller it would control about the same.
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« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2013, 09:11:25 PM »

There are some parts of the game that really might've been impractical on Wii, or at least would require very clever development staff.

And honestly, in this case Agent D's right. Half the appeal of Uncharted was how it pushed the PS3's Cell processor, and by going to 360 that might have been compromised, and if it went to Wii it absolutely would have. But this isn't really something that applies to Xenoblade, as I noted it probably would've been about as popular, at worst SLIGHTLY less so. It's the latest game from the Xeno team, and it's during a period where good JRPGs are scarce, just look at how rabid people got over Ni No Kuni, a game that probably would've been considered good but kind of bland during the late PS2 days. Failing that (because HOLY SHIT IT ACTUALLY HAS A WORLD MAP, something that's practically disappeared on PS2 onwards), then a similar game would've probably been considered dull on PS1. Certainly the DS game isn't much liked, and that actually gives a rough approximation of how it'd look on PS1, even if spells would work more like on PS3 probably. Though that does play very differently, so it's probably not the best example.
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« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2013, 05:27:35 AM »

Well I picked Uncharted as an arbitrary example of a console exclusive.

I guess it's like saying FF7 was only popular because it was on the PS1. If it it had been on the N64 or Saturn, it wouldn't have.

My point being that saying Xenoblade was *only* popular because it was on the Wii is a ridiculous comment that's not even close to being possible to prove.

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« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2013, 10:39:59 AM »

If anything, the Wii would have hurt its chances. The PS3 has a lot of jRPGs (of varying quality) and the Xbox has a bunch as well. The Wii has like 4. Last Story, Arc Rise Fantasia, Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World and Xenoblade. Or, and Rune Factory Frontier I guess. And most people wouldn't look at Arc Rise Fantasia or DotNW and say that they herald great things for Wii jRPGs. (Arc Rise Fantasia was pretty good, it just had a horrible first impression from the acting).
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