XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st

[Yoda]

it's just another opportunity for a subscription service.

Pay $50 a year to play used games! (used games sold sep.)

[Agent D.]

No used games would definitely hurt Gamefly's relationship with MS.

[Akanbe-]

Why would the masses buy a $400 console when they could just get a $50 Roku that does what they want?

Because Roku doesn't have a billion dollar advertising budget.

I'm surprised they went through with the whole no used games thing after all (edit: looks like you can install on a 2nd xbox but have to pay fulll price to install it.  MS says more info coming about used games).  Barring some major exclusives and a redone xbox live, I most likely won't be purchasing one.  Console and controller do look nice however.

[Aeolus]

B-but guys. The D-Pad wont suck this time. That's got to count for something right?

But man, I remember how the legalese of the OG XBlocx said that games on game disks were only leased to consumers and weren't actually owned by them and I thought that was absurd back then due to arcane nature of said knowledge let alone the complete inability to enforce such an agreement.

But to have to pay to share the same game on even the same system? That shit's just messed up.

Nevermind the year long grace period, I'm pretty sure XBox1(ol) will be launching with DoA (not to be confused with the fighting game series Dead or Alive).

[Chronix112]

wow, no matter what they do this will kill the used & renting market for the system...not pleased......not pleased at all.  This is looking more and more like the ps4's race to lose.

[Yggdrasil]

I'm worried about this console. Damn thing just left me with the impression that is gonna leave a negative impact on gaming if not handle carefully, and I have never associated Microsoft with being careful.

B-but guys. The D-Pad wont suck this time. That's got to count for something right?

Fighting games are still gonna suck with that controller right?

[Dice]

I bet EA pitched and paid for the "no-used games" idea.

[Eusis]

Requires a connection once a day apparently.

Yeah, ok, it's better to try to be neutral with console preferences but fuck that, I actually want this to tank harder than anything before.

[Chronix112]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=560478
Get some popcorn people! Thread gone full meltdown! If Sony does something similar...well, fuck console gaming I am going full PC. Never thought I would EVER say that.
Even without the atrocious DOA policy there is no way in hell I would buy this system. Kinect + needing mandatory internet = no go.

[Starmongoose]

Today will be a good Internet day, i feel.

[MeshGearFox]

"It sits on your harddrive and you have permission to play that game as long as you’d like," Harrison said.

REMEMBER WHEN YOU USED TO BUY GAMES INSTEAD OF PERMISSION TO PLAY THEM THAT SURE WAS NEAT.

[Yggdrasil]

If Sony does something similar...well, fuck console gaming I am going full PC. Never thought I would EVER say that.

Sony is pretty much in the role of "savior" right now while Nintendo is there stuck in their bubble as always.

I have never seen a company ruining the announcement of their next big system though. Is like they want this to be the last Xbox or something.

[Lucca]

...Wow, and I thought the Wii U was kinda clunky (note: still bought one), but even I think that has more potential than the Xbox and their no used game (except for a fee!) policy. Thanks Microsoft for totally killing my interest with this system! :)

[Tooker]

Just FYI, Microsoft sources are saying the "pay to play used games" thing was not correct.

https://twitter.com/XboxSupport3/status/336937800702238722
https://twitter.com/XboxSupport/status/336957014729175040
https://twitter.com/XboxSupport2/status/336967192799223808

[Klutz64]

What's this "when we have more information" BS? YOU MADE THE CONSOLE YOU SHOULD HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.