XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st

[Chronix112]

http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/06/xbox-one-may-not-be-able-to-be-sold-used/

[MeshGearFox]

But I do love a trainwreck.

I can't turn away. The comments on MS shooting itself in the foot has been going on for a while... I've seen companies shoot themselves in the foot before. It's funny, but nothing big. I've never seen a company reload and shoot themselves this many times. I can't point to a single thing they've done and say "Well that one was a great decision, at least!" This is just crazy.

It's not so much that they're shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly it's that they're like NNNNGHYA THAT FELT SO GOOOOOD every time they do it, before hastily reloading while salivating lustily.

[Eusis]

http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/06/xbox-one-may-not-be-able-to-be-sold-used/

Some idiot/troll/complete asshole deliberately cut off the rest of that conversation where it was concluded, yes, you COULD sell a used Xbox One console.

Then this idiot wrote a story about that without verifying. So, no, for once we have a false alarm.

[Chronix112]

http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/06/xbox-one-may-not-be-able-to-be-sold-used/

Some idiot/troll/complete asshole deliberately cut off the rest of that conversation where it was concluded, yes, you COULD sell a used Xbox One console.

Then this idiot wrote a story about that without verifying. So, no, for once we have a false alarm.

Wow, a false alarm for once.

[Eusis]

For reference here's the entire chain.

[ZshadeZ]

But I do love a trainwreck.

I can't turn away. The comments on MS shooting itself in the foot has been going on for a while... I've seen companies shoot themselves in the foot before. It's funny, but nothing big. I've never seen a company reload and shoot themselves this many times. I can't point to a single thing they've done and say "Well that one was a great decision, at least!" This is just crazy.

It's not so much that they're shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly it's that they're like NNNNGHYA THAT FELT SO GOOOOOD every time they do it, before hastily reloading while salivating lustily.

I have to give you points for that. I admit, I peed a little when I read/pictured it.

[MeshGearFox]

http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/06/xbox-one-may-not-be-able-to-be-sold-used/

Some idiot/troll/complete asshole deliberately cut off the rest of that conversation where it was concluded, yes, you COULD sell a used Xbox One console.

Then this idiot wrote a story about that without verifying. So, no, for once we have a false alarm.

Good to note, although I do wonder if there might be some gotcha with second-hand consoles. That question WAS specifically about selling it, after all, and not about buying a used one. I don't really see how they could charge a reactivation fee or anything, considering you can, apparently, use your XBL account on any console, but given the financial situation at Microsoft and consoles being sold at a lost, I can imagine they'd LIKE to recoup money from people buying the system used.

[Klutz64]

Trainwreck or not, I did get a disgusting amount of pre-orders yesterday at work for the Xbone. Mind you, I live next to a snobbish upperclass neighborhood full of kids whose parents will buy them whatever they want without a care in the world what it is and grown manchildren who have enough old money that they really don't care what they throw it at, but it does show that the XB1 has a market.

Like my boss said, though, the WiiU also sold fairly well at launch up to Xmas and then plummeted after people had realized what they got themselves into.

[ZshadeZ]

Trainwreck or not, I did get a disgusting amount of pre-orders yesterday at work for the Xbone. Mind you, I live next to a snobbish upperclass neighborhood full of kids whose parents will buy them whatever they want without a care in the world what it is and grown manchildren who have enough old money that they really don't care what they throw it at, but it does show that the XB1 has a market.

Like my boss said, though, the WiiU also sold fairly well at launch up to Xmas and then plummeted after people had realized what they got themselves into.

That's actually encouraging, the screaming spoiled children on Live were the only ones I hoped wouldn't end up on PSN.

[Akanbe-]

source (account ban = sayonara to your games)

Not too surprising.  Just another reason to avoid.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Games-E3-Were-Running-Windows-7-With-Nvidia-GTX-Cards-56737.html

Reiterating: I don't care about modern game consoles. The next systems I buy are going to be a 3DS and a Vita (or a replacement original XBox if I can't get mine fixed up). The next generation really is not /interesting/ to me, on a personal level.

But I do love a trainwreck.

Assuming they are using the absolute lowest GTX 700 series card, they are still using a card that retails for the exact same price as a PS4.  A card that is definitely well above whatever is ultimately used in the Xbone.  Pretty shady.  Wonder if more news outlets will catch this.

[Yggdrasil]

/r/games interview with Xbox Live's Major Nelson -- RedditGames, YouTube

[ZshadeZ]

/r/games interview with Xbox Live's Major Nelson -- RedditGames, YouTube

I love that interview.

"You can't play disk based games from the disk without the internet check because we designed the system to be flexible."

Being able to say that with a straight face, he really is their best at PR.

*edit*

Another major nelson interview, this time with Angry Joe. Angry Joe doesn't seem to being overly rude other than the fact that he talks too much... but Major Nelson gets clearly pissed. Least professional Major Nelson interview I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RtSGFryKwo

[Yoda]

Damn I don't like seeing anyone fail but this seems like it's going to be one of the biggest technological and commercial blunders ever. It feels like they're trying to strip consumer rights away and I'll be voting with my wallet.

[Eusis]

Damn I don't like seeing anyone fail but this seems like it's going to be one of the biggest technological and commercial blunders ever. It feels like they're trying to strip consumer rights away and I'll be voting with my wallet.

Well, it helps that Microsoft as a whole certainly won't go down. The Xbox related people in their Entertainment division, maybe, but I suspect/hope most of them would have relatively little trouble finding a new job (nevermind that Don Mattrick came out of retirement at the behest of Robbie Bach wanting him to come to Microsoft, so he could probably just go "well that was fun" and return to retirement.)

[ZshadeZ]

I guess Sony won that poll Amazon had going... 38,984 to 2,162. Yet another thing I don't remember ever seeing before.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/PS4-Grabs-95-Consumer-Votes-Amazon-Ends-Poll-Early-56766.html